Debate eve chatter

[DotAndBuzz]

Oct 19, 2016 14:04:45 GMT -5 bex said:

I literally just watched the SNL debate from Saturday night to get pumped up. I'll probably make H watch it before the debate starts just for funsies.

"I'm made of steel!"

Every time I hear about another one of his guests, I picture that moment from SNL.  The talking heads are all "do you think it will bother her?"

No it won't bother her.  I guessing she's pissed about the idiocy that the election has become, and is probably furious that republican leaders are too chicken shit to stand up to him and strongly denounce his candidacy and voter fraud statements.  I imagine the only thing she has to work hard at is to keep herself from saying "what the actual FUCK is wrong with you people?"  Knowing they are in the audience I would think is of zero concern to her.  She's answered to these allegations and addressed it dozens of times.  No new thing.

[picksthemusic]

DH made sure it was set on the DVR, because I'm not going to expose my kids to Drumpf's drivel. But we'll start watching after bedtime.

[epphd]

Oct 19, 2016 16:04:42 GMT -5 bex said:

Oct 19, 2016 15:49:57 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm so nervous.

I was talking to a female coworker, and we're both nervous that he's going to physically attack her.

The good thing is that this time they stay behind podiums, right? So that isn't as likely as it was during the town hall format.

Yes. Also:http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/19/media/debate-rules-moderators-questions/ so we can follow along at home.

DEBATE FORMAT: The debate will be divided into six segments of 15 minutes each. The topics for those segments, selected by Wallace, are: "Debt and entitlements," "Immigration," "Economy," "Supreme Court," "Foreign hot spots" and "Fitness to be President."

SEGMENT FORMAT: Each segment will begin with a question. One candidate will have two minutes to respond, then the other candidate will have two minutes to respond. That will be followed by 10 to 11 minutes of open debate and discussion.

WHO GOES FIRST?: The first question will go to Clinton, according to the Commission on Presidential Debates. The same question will then be asked to Trump. In the second segment, the order will be reversed, with the lead-off question going to Trump, then Clinton. And so on.

PLACEMENT: As in the first debate, Trump will be on the left side of your screen and Clinton will be on the right, according to the Commission on Presidential Debates.

[pitta12]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vegas-baby-all-the-weird-stuff-you-can-bet-on-for-tonight%E2%80%99s-trump-clinton-debate/ar-AAj9C3P

Vegas, Baby! All the Weird Stuff You Can Bet on for Tonight’s Trump-Clinton Debate

Las Vegas is the location for tonight’s Trump-Clinton debate, but you don’t have to travel to get a piece of the action. In an election that already has more in common with professional wrestling than recent American politics, you can place so-called “proposition bets” on tonight’s debate.

Much like sports books offer bets on the Super Bowl about who will win the coin toss, or how many times the Left Shark will miss the dance steps, Bovada is offering the opportunity to win some cash by picking which candidate will interrupt first (Donald Trump is a heavy favorite) or what TV network will have the most viewers.

The online sports book is also taking action on the overall outcome of the election, with the line on Hillary Clinton at -500, meaning you’d have to bet $100 to win $20, and Trump at +350. Predictwise currently favors Clinton with a 90 percent chance of winning, so Bovada’s line seems a little loose, given their line for baseball’s American League Championship Series favors the Indians, one game away from winning, at -600.

Other prop bets available to gamblers looking to make the debate a little more interesting:

How many times will “WikiLeaks” be said? (Over/under 3.5)
How many times will Donald Trump say "Tremendous"? (Over/under 8.5)
Will Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton shake hands before the debate begins? (Even money)
Will the third presidential debate garner more viewers than the second?

A good bet tonight is the over/under on how many times Trump will say “rigged” or “rig.” At 4.5, the over should be easy money.

[lulu13]

My 13 year old (8th grade) was assigned watching the debate tonight by her Social Studies teacher.
I'll let her watch it but not sure this is a great example of debating for the kids.

[winecat]

"Open debate and discussion" = massive opportunity for Trump to come unhinged.

Though I'm worried that it's going to be difficult for HRC to talk over him.

[cbwm1]

Has anyone been watching MSNBC?

Chuck Todd ripped into a Trump campaign advisor earlier about the reason behind bringing Obama's brother to the debate and the idiot kept dodging the question because he didn't have a good answer.

Chris Hayes is on now, and he had Evan McMillian'a campaign manager and that Trump woman...AJ something? They lit into each other and Christ Hayes just sat back laughing in disbelief.

It was kind of amazing.

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Oct 19, 2016 15:45:48 GMT -5 SwimDeep said:

Oct 19, 2016 15:00:16 GMT -5 WanderingWinoZ said:

NO

THIS IS A BAD IDEA

Don't worry, I hate Red Bull.

I had a 3:30pm coffee and then I'll pour a drink with the debate. I don't like mixing alcohol and caffeine except for the occasional vacation boozy coffee.

H mentioned wanting to take an Ambien tonight because of jet lag. I reminded him that meant he couldn't drink more than like 1 during the debate, and he said I'm no fun. Because I don't want him to die in his sleep.

[was5]

Oct 19, 2016 17:29:22 GMT -5 cbwm1 said:

Has anyone been watching MSNBC?

Chuck Todd ripped into a Trump campaign advisor earlier about the reason behind bringing Obama's brother to the debate and the idiot kept dodging the question because he didn't have a good answer.

Chris Hayes is on now, and he had Evan McMillian'a campaign manager and that Trump woman...AJ something? They lit into each other and Christ Hayes just sat back laughing in disbelief.

It was kind of amazing.

I'm listening while I wait for DD to finish cheer practice. Going back and forth between MSNBC and CNN. Sounds like the same lady in the background on both stations yelling for Trump. That on top of everyone on the panel talking over each other was getting annoying. Anderson Cooper sounded like he was about to lose it. Now CNN has Wolf Blitzer and sounds like they have cut off the background noise now.

Eta fat fingers

[SwimDeep]

@angryharpy , I would joke back, but I'm concerned the sarcasm would sound just a bit too bitter. I'm not far enough removed from my Ativan/Xanax mishap.

I was joking in my previous post, though. There was one night, I stayed up all night shooting RedBulls and Jagermeister with one of my brothers. I haven't been able to stomach the sight or smell of either ever since
Between him and I (it was just the two of us) we put away an entire liter of Jager...

[Deleted]

OMG, I haaaaate Jaeger. I hate all things anise and licorice. There was a stand selling Jaeger shots in the O'Hare airport recently, and I thought I was going to vom just walking past it.

[bex]

10-11 minutes of open debate? This is going to be a shit show.

[killercupcake]

H just met Emmitt Smith and said Wayne Newton waved at him like he knew him. Lol

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Oct 19, 2016 17:55:29 GMT -5 bex said:

10-11 minutes of open debate? This is going to be a shit show.

So much time for Trump to melt down.

[bex]

Chris Matthews thinks we are going to see a "smart Trump" tonight.

I think we will as well. For maybe the first five or 10 minutes. Then I think she's going to get a dig in and it will all be downhill.

[MeMyselfandI]

I am out of town for work and in a hotel. It's storming here and the satellite has gone down. If it's not up in time for the debate, I may have to light this place on fire.

[aurora]

Oct 19, 2016 15:49:57 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm so nervous.

I was talking to a female coworker, and we're both nervous that he's going to physically attack her.

Are there rules against becoming President if you're in prison?

[pugz]

Anxiety level rising.

[aurora]

Oct 19, 2016 16:52:16 GMT -5 winecat said:

"Open debate and discussion" = massive opportunity for Trump to come unhinged.

Though I'm worried that it's going to be difficult for HRC to talk over him.

The thing is, though, letting him talk himself into a hole might be a good strategy.

[Beeps (WOT?*)]

I wonder if my mom tried to get tickets. She lives in Vegas and is (ugh) a Trump supporter. (That ugh wasn't enough UGH!!!)
Her travel buddy is a staunch Hillary supporter.

I wonder how long it will be before he converts her. She generally bends to whatever the guy believes. That can't be soon enough for me.

[kirra]

Oct 18, 2016 19:26:48 GMT -5 katietornado said:

Hilz has invited a man from Nebraska with dwarfism and will talk about her commitment to people with disabilities.

I checked to see if her disability rights policy page has improved. It hasn't.

Quote: "The ADA... made sure everyone can enter buildings, and ensured that no one would be turned down for a job because of a disability."
Reality: The ADA means we can sue and hopefully get access to buildings that don't meet requirements. The ADA means employers can't legally turn someone down for a job because of a disability.

And then it gets even better: "provide tax relief to help the millions of families caring for aging relatives or family members with chronic illnesses or disabilities." THE FAMILIES. She doesn't even bother to address disabled people directly.




ETA: she may be committed to disability rights, but her policy page is almost offensive.

[killercupcake]

Oct 19, 2016 18:25:13 GMT -5 Beeps (WOT?*) said:

I wonder if my mom tried to get tickets. She lives in Vegas and is (ugh) a Trump supporter. (That ugh wasn't enough UGH!!!)
Her travel buddy is a staunch Hillary supporter.

I wonder how long it will be before he converts her. She generally bends to whatever the guy believes. That can't be soon enough for me.

H only got the chance because UNLV offered a raffle to current full time students and he only got 1 ticket. He keeps sending me updates and I'm so jealous. 

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Oct 19, 2016 18:13:10 GMT -5 bex said:

Chris Matthews thinks we are going to see a "smart Trump" tonight.

I think we will as well. For maybe the first five or 10 minutes. Then I think she's going to get a dig in and it will all be downhill.

I mean, 10 to 11 minutes of open debate? Come on! The man can stay on message with talking points for a maximum of 120 seconds. Then it becomes incoherent rambling and conspiracy theories. We've been watching him do this for over a year. We all know how this goes.

[bex]

Are we going to do an official debate thread? I'm getting SO EXCITED!

85 minutes to go....

[bex]

Oct 19, 2016 18:34:23 GMT -5 @angryharpy said:

Oct 19, 2016 18:13:10 GMT -5 bex said:

Chris Matthews thinks we are going to see a "smart Trump" tonight.

I think we will as well. For maybe the first five or 10 minutes. Then I think she's going to get a dig in and it will all be downhill.

I mean, 10 to 11 minutes of open debate? Come on! The man can stay on message with talking points for a maximum of 120 seconds. Then it becomes incoherent rambling and conspiracy theories. We've been watching him do this for over a year. We all know how this goes.

Oh yeah I meant 5-10 minutes total in the debate. Not 10 minutes of trump talking lol.

[Jalapeñomel]

I keep thinking that this has probably been HRC's dream as a politician, to run for president, and how much of a fucking joke Trump has made this.

[bex]

Oct 19, 2016 18:36:23 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

I keep thinking that this has probably been HRC's dream as a politician, to run for president, and how much of a fucking joke Trump has made this.

Yup. This is not the campaign she probably wanted to run. Certainly not the debates she was anticipating.

[winecat]

Oct 19, 2016 18:25:05 GMT -5 aurora said:

Oct 19, 2016 16:52:16 GMT -5 winecat said:

"Open debate and discussion" = massive opportunity for Trump to come unhinged.

Though I'm worried that it's going to be difficult for HRC to talk over him.

The thing is, though, letting him talk himself into a hole might be a good strategy.

I think/hope he'll do that on his own.  I worry that HRC could appear weak if she's not able to speak easily.  I have no doubt she'll be able to shut him down but our society doesn't deal well with strong women actually acting strong.  

[hopecounts]

Oct 19, 2016 18:41:26 GMT -5 bex said:

Oct 19, 2016 18:36:23 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

I keep thinking that this has probably been HRC's dream as a politician, to run for president, and how much of a fucking joke Trump has made this.

Yup. This is not the campaign she probably wanted to run. Certainly not the debates she was anticipating.

Yes she is a policy wonk, debate is her thing.
And she is stuck debating drumpf who can't state policy to save his life.

[WanderingWinoZ]

Kids in bed, drink poured, hubby out picking up sushi & milk.....

I'm glad we have this thread....the actual deate thread won't be 10+ pages before the kickoff.

Although I do like watching them arrive in their entourage & evaluating all the ladies' outfits