Eh, I didn't see it that way, that it was because of Darryl, but I can see why people would think that. I think he was gonna do it anyway.
I get why they did both of them. Everyone was expecting Glenn, so this way they still got the surprise. But they went too far. I agree with pp that it was like watching torture porn. It was not entertaining at all and literally made my chest hurt. Why watch that?
I understand why they did it this way and it makes sense but I also think Daryl will blame himself because that's who he is.
I wonder if he will or if he will just be different. Glenn had to go and sitting around when they still don't fully know how awful Negan is (they have a clue, but the 2nd person, Glenn, really nails it into them, and then the Carl piece, taking over for another character in comic....). I think it is just too much now.SaveSave
I understand why they did it this way and it makes sense but I also think Daryl will blame himself because that's who he is.
I wonder if he will or if he will just be different. Glenn had to go and sitting around when they still don't fully know how awful Negan is (they have a clue, but the 2nd person, Glenn, really nails it into them, and then the Carl piece, taking over for another character in comic....). I think it is just too much now.SaveSave
Norman just said on TD he feels guilty and will never be able to let that responsibility go.
I wonder if he will or if he will just be different. Glenn had to go and sitting around when they still don't fully know how awful Negan is (they have a clue, but the 2nd person, Glenn, really nails it into them, and then the Carl piece, taking over for another character in comic....). I think it is just too much now.SaveSave
Norman just said on TD he feels guilty and will never be able to let that responsibility go.
Maybe if he washes his hair, he can
I am sure he will be guilty for a while, but I wonder if they all are just different. I also don't care so much anymore, so I am sure I am reading it through that lens.SaveSave
I saw it coming and still lost my shit, like I told DH it was gonna happen and then when it did I started tearing up, and then full on bawling. We had to pause for a break and I honestly don't know if I can watch this show anymore. It just made me feel anxious, sick and pissed off. Not a good shock or surprise.
DH was like "um honey, it's a show about zombies, you know nothing good is going to happen right?"
I saw it coming and still lost my shit, like I told DH it was gonna happen and then when it did I started tearing up, and then full on bawling. We had to pause for a break and I honestly don't know if I can watch this show anymore. It just made me feel anxious, sick and pissed off. Not a good shock or surprise.
DH was like "um honey, it's a show about zombies, you know nothing good is going to happen right?"
I think that is it for me....there is no hope in this show at all and what is the point? Wait for all to die out?SaveSave
I saw it coming and still lost my shit, like I told DH it was gonna happen and then when it did I started tearing up, and then full on bawling. We had to pause for a break and I honestly don't know if I can watch this show anymore. It just made me feel anxious, sick and pissed off. Not a good shock or surprise.
DH was like "um honey, it's a show about zombies, you know nothing good is going to happen right?"
Whenever I try to explain to non watchers why I watch, I always say this show has nothing to do with zombies. It's about humans and survival and what we would all do. And, while I don't agree with your DH that it's about zombies I do agree with his message that it's a dark show. Shit, we've watched the Governor and cannibals and dozens of other dark things. But this episode was all about seeing how far they could take it, and I think they took it too far.
I saw it coming and still lost my shit, like I told DH it was gonna happen and then when it did I started tearing up, and then full on bawling. We had to pause for a break and I honestly don't know if I can watch this show anymore. It just made me feel anxious, sick and pissed off. Not a good shock or surprise.
DH was like "um honey, it's a show about zombies, you know nothing good is going to happen right?"
Whenever I try to explain to non watchers why I watch, I always say this show has nothing to do with zombies. It's about humans and survival and what we would all do. And, while I don't agree with your DH that it's about zombies I do agree with his message that it's a dark show. Shit, we've watched the Governor and cannibals and dozens of other dark things. But this episode was all about seeing how far they could take it, and I think they took it too far.
I watched for the human survival aspect and for a long time it felt like something was there, but I really think they have failed at making it work onscreen. It can be dark and still compelling. It doesn't feel compelling anymore.
And I think they've always struggled to some degree with making it work onscreen and finding the right balance but it's gone off the rails for me over the past two seasons.
I do wonder if they saw a decline in book sales after Glenn's death. I'm obviously not alone on giving up on the story after that event. If so, I'm shocked they'd stick with that direction.
That's where I stopped reading too, but my H kept reading so sales weren't impacted by my dropping.
Bored I was SO UPSET with the way things were left last season, and I was really hoping the writers would ... I don't know. Stop doing the usual? This entire episode was about Negan's ego.
Bored I was SO UPSET with the way things were left last season, and I was really hoping the writers would ... I don't know. Stop doing the usual? This entire episode was about Negan's ego.
Not really. The episode was about breaking Rick/everyone. I guess in a way that's an ego thing but Negan was bending them to his will, so that they will produce for him. I kept forgetting about that part and complaining and H kept reminding me.
This is so twisted.
The talking dead afterwards was interesting. The cast was def not as jovial as they used to be.
Post by carrotsmakemefat on Oct 24, 2016 6:12:07 GMT -5
Thinking about this more, I know it's more gruesome. That said, if the storyline is staying within the integrity of the books then I don't know that I should complain as much. Just as many people would complain that the writers didn't match the book or go there! It seems like they want to make certain editorial decisions as appropriate (like whether to cut off Carl's arm) - the directors were talking about that in TD
I'm going to keep on keeping on for now. I'm really curious about Negan and I think the producers did a good job of letting us know up front that Negan is going to be unlike any other badass we have seen
I saw it coming and still lost my shit, like I told DH it was gonna happen and then when it did I started tearing up, and then full on bawling. We had to pause for a break and I honestly don't know if I can watch this show anymore. It just made me feel anxious, sick and pissed off. Not a good shock or surprise.
DH was like "um honey, it's a show about zombies, you know nothing good is going to happen right?"
Whenever I try to explain to non watchers why I watch, I always say this show has nothing to do with zombies. It's about humans and survival and what we would all do.
This is exactly how I describe it to people too.
This episode was hard to watch but I'm going to keep watching.
Honestly, I was also very frustrated with all of the montages and so forth. A lot happened but they could have fit a lot more in too.
Oh, and they way I interpreted it, Glenn absolutely was killed because of Darryl.
So I haven't watched but know who dies. I'm thinking I probably won't because the show is basically torture porn at this point and it's an endless cycle of awful.
But did it really go down where Glenn was killed because of Daryl? So basically to make him feel more guilty for another death and for Maggie to have someone to blame? It's so fucking tired the way they write Daryl. He used to be my favorite but I hate the way they just ruin him all the time. The compelling thing about him was how he found a place in the ZA with a family and life that was in a lot of ways better than his life before.The idea the ZA could be better for someone was interesting. And now it's just like how many people's deaths can he feel responsible for before he just eats a bullet.
Yes, I can't anymore. I quit two episodes before the end of last season. I had my brother text me what happened last night, but it's complete BS. They could do so much with Daryl, but instead they keep doing this crap to him.
Whenever I try to explain to non watchers why I watch, I always say this show has nothing to do with zombies. It's about humans and survival and what we would all do.
This is exactly how I describe it to people too.
This episode was hard to watch but I'm going to keep watching.
Honestly, I was also very frustrated with all of the montages and so forth. A lot happened but they could have fit a lot more in too.
Oh, and they way I interpreted it, Glenn absolutely was killed because of Darryl.
I agree. Glenn was killed because Darryl jumped up and hit Negan.
Wait, who thinks Glenn was NOT killed because of Daryl? And were we watching the same show?
ETA: Oh, I see,dancingnancy. No. Wrong. Said Trump style.
I'm actually glad the show had the guts to kill off a main character. I think of this show like GOT. If you think the zombie apocolypse has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Post by cheeseandcrackers on Oct 24, 2016 7:37:47 GMT -5
WELL they definitely started the season out with a bang. I thought it would either be Daryl or Glenn.. I guess I was half right. I just don't think it's going to look up for them from here on out. I am sad to see another person killed that started at season 1.
The way I see the show is that the zombies are just the background.. the real bad guys here are the people that survived and it shows how evil human nature can be in a bad situation.
Wait, who thinks Glenn was NOT killed because of Daryl? And were we watching the same show?
ETA: Oh, I see,dancingnancy. No. Wrong. Said Trump style.
I'm actually glad the show had the guts to kill off a main character. I think of this show like GOT. If you think the zombie apocolypse has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
I like how they talked about the beginning being about survival and now it's the aftermath. Humans turning on each other. Which makes sense. On the talking dead they also talked about how this will be a divider for seasons. Like, pre negan and post negan.
That was a tough episode to watch. With the big Glenn fake out death last season, I was really hoping they'd leave him alone. I will say that I loved both Glenn's and Abraham's last words. Very true to their characters.
I thought they did both deaths justice, both briefly poetic - and omg with the Sunday dinner scene and Glen's little boy sitting in his lap! Our whole watch party was in tears!
Now, I want to see Maggie finish stepping up in a leadership role to take Negan down. I can handle watching the rest of the season, but if they do anything to Maggie and the baby, I'm done!
I think I am finished with this show. This is too much
I told DH that I can't handle the human on human brutality anymore. It's too upsetting. I may be done, too. I was almost done a few seasons ago when a bunch of them were lined up along troughs. Tonight? Too far.
I love the survival aspect. The zombies. Not what happened tonight.
I seriously feel sick to my stomach. SaveSave
This is so me. It was a thrilling watch with the killing of DEAD zombies, but this human on human stuff is WAY too much for me. I did not watch tonight because I knew I would hate it. I am definitely done.
I told DH that I can't handle the human on human brutality anymore. It's too upsetting. I may be done, too. I was almost done a few seasons ago when a bunch of them were lined up along troughs. Tonight? Too far.
I love the survival aspect. The zombies. Not what happened tonight.
I seriously feel sick to my stomach. SaveSave
This is so me. It was a thrilling watch with the killing of DEAD zombies, but this human on human stuff is WAY too much for me. I did not watch tonight because I knew I would hate it. I am definitely done.
I miss the survival stuff in the earlier seasons. They don't even show them eating meals or searching for food any more. That was the cool part, IMO! LOL.SaveSave
I thought they did both deaths justice, both briefly poetic - and omg with the Sunday dinner scene and Glen's little boy sitting in his lap! Our whole watch party was in tears!
Now, I want to see Maggie finish stepping up in a leadership role to take Negan down. I can handle watching the rest of the season, but if they do anything to Maggie and the baby, I'm done!
I think the dinner scene was so sad, probably the saddest part. Even though the deaths were horrifying, they were well done.
Agreed. The dinner scene was when I finally lost it. Honestly, I mourned Glenn last season and was pissed that he miraculously escaped under the dumpster. I thought it was a total cop-out. I knew he was on borrowed time. I'm actually pretty surprised by people's reactions here. The show would be boring as shit if all they did was kill walkers. Plus, how many walkers can really be left? I read an article a while back that did the math, based on the number of survivors we've seen and the population in the area; there's already too many walkers.
I think the dinner scene was so sad, probably the saddest part. Even though the deaths were horrifying, they were well done.
Agreed. The dinner scene was when I finally lost it. Honestly, I mourned Glenn last season and was pissed that he miraculously escaped under the dumpster. I thought it was a total cop-out. I knew he was on borrowed time. I'm actually pretty surprised by people's reactions here. The show would be boring as shit if all they did was kill walkers. Plus, how many walkers can really be left? I read an article a while back that did the math, based on the number of survivors we've seen and the population in the area; there's already too many walkers.
Really? That's interesting. I was actually thinking there should be more, just because they never seem to wither away or anything, and that city and town walkers would be wandering all over the country at this point. But I guess many of them are probably stuck in houses, apartments, hospitals, etc. and can't get out.
This episode was a bit much for me. I know they did it because it would have to be pretty bad to finally break Rick in any believable way, but at this point I think the show is looking to appeal to a different viewer than me. I'm interested in watching a survival show with some zombies thrown in, not a show about a cruel psychopath and how depraved he can get. I kind of wish I'd skipped this episode, TBH.
I remember that article. If there are so many groups around like Rick's and Negan's, then they would kill all the walkers. By this time (3ish years into the ZA?) All the walkers would be gone.
Walking Dead Wikia says season 7 starts on day 627 from initial outbreak, so not even 2 years yet. Seems like longer.
I remember that article. If there are so many groups around like Rick's and Negan's, then they would kill all the walkers. By this time (3ish years into the ZA?) All the walkers would be gone.
Walking Dead Wikia says season 7 starts on day 627 from initial outbreak, so not even 2 years yet. Seems like longer.
I mean, just going by Judith alone that can't be right, right?
Well, she was born on day 311 (according to the timeline). I know she was conceived shortly after the outbreak when Lori thought Rick was dead. Babies in TV shows always look older than they should. I mean, newborns typically look about 3 months old on tv and in the movies.