We just threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea

[jeaniebueller]

Sept 19, 2017 13:42:43 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

C'mon. Am I to believe that Kelly wasn't privy to that speech before he made it?

[sparrowsong]

Sept 19, 2017 14:25:28 GMT -5 chilerellanos said:

Sept 19, 2017 14:23:48 GMT -5 jeaniebueller said:

C'mon. Am I to believe that Kelly wasn't privy to that speech before he made it?

Right? Like come on.

Or does Kelly get a version, and then Miller gives trump the real version?

Was "rocket man" actually written into the speech? How much ad-libbing does he do?

[sonrisa]

Sept 19, 2017 14:41:35 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

Sept 19, 2017 14:25:28 GMT -5 chilerellanos said:

Right? Like come on.

Or does Kelly get a version, and then Miller gives trump the real version?

Was "rocket man" actually written into the speech? How much ad-libbing does he do?

Well, it was written into his tweet a few days ago, so it should have been on their radar.

[meshaliuknits]

Sept 19, 2017 13:43:30 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Sept 19, 2017 13:25:33 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

He's totally Zapp Brannigan.

youtu.be/7myA3evZep4

Good lord, it's practically scripted for the character. *weeps*

[secretlyevil]

He is trying to get us all killed.

[Miss Phryne Fisher]

I am sure he was just joking. Or it was hyperbole.


Or maybe he is totally serious and getting tough on NK.



If I thought that a Trump supporter knew what "hyperbole" meant, I would bet they could claim all three of these in a single sentence (right before "...but Obama" or "...but emails!".)

[mbcdefg]

[2curlydogs]

Sept 19, 2017 13:35:11 GMT -5 Michelle said:

Sept 19, 2017 13:21:10 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I hope our Jewish posters don't get offended when I say Bibi needs to take a seat.

[tessalb]

Sept 19, 2017 13:42:43 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

DID YOU REALLY THINK HE'D ACT PRESIDENTIAL, JOHN? Go fuck yourself with your public hand wringing and shameful hand on your face. You are normalizing him every. damn. day.

[sporklemotion]

Sept 19, 2017 14:41:35 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

Sept 19, 2017 14:25:28 GMT -5 chilerellanos said:

Right? Like come on.

Or does Kelly get a version, and then Miller gives trump the real version?

Was "rocket man" actually written into the speech? How much ad-libbing does he do?

It didn't sound ad libbed to me, but I'm no expert.

[isabel]

Sept 19, 2017 19:11:37 GMT -5 sporklemotion said:

Sept 19, 2017 14:41:35 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

Was "rocket man" actually written into the speech? How much ad-libbing does he do?

It didn't sound ad libbed to me, but I'm no expert.

sparrowsong

On NPR this afternoon, they said a spokesman said that comment was "added to the speech at the last minute," which to me means that he ad libbed. I kind of doubt it was actually written into the speech, maybe in pen right before he went on.

[sporklemotion]

Sept 19, 2017 19:24:59 GMT -5 isabel said:

Sept 19, 2017 19:11:37 GMT -5 sporklemotion said:

It didn't sound ad libbed to me, but I'm no expert.

sparrowsong

On NPR this afternoon, they said a spokesman said that comment was "added to the speech at the last minute," which to me means that he ad libbed. I kind of doubt it was actually written into the speech, maybe in pen right before he went on.

Maybe. I know speechwriters can make very late stage rewrites, so I wouldn't be surprised if he said something like "make sure to use the Rocket Man line. It's gold!" And Stephen Miller or someone added it in.


I feel like when he ad libs stupid stuff, he tends to repeat it a bunch of times to punctuate it, and he riffs on it, and IIRC, he didn't do that here.

[underwaterrhymes]

Sept 19, 2017 19:24:59 GMT -5 isabel said:

Sept 19, 2017 19:11:37 GMT -5 sporklemotion said:

It didn't sound ad libbed to me, but I'm no expert.

sparrowsong

On NPR this afternoon, they said a spokesman said that comment was "added to the speech at the last minute," which to me means that he ad libbed. I kind of doubt it was actually written into the speech, maybe in pen right before he went on.

The speech itself was very scripted and you could tell he was on a very tight leash.

However, not tight enough. I suspect someone wrote Kim Jong Un and he said, "Rocket Man."

[mbcdefg]

I don't judge him for not drinking. This is just bizarre though

[sofamonkey]

Sept 19, 2017 20:44:33 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I don't judge him for not drinking. This is just bizarre though

He probably knows that alcohol doesn't mix well with his meds/drugs etc. (and you KNOW he is on some sort of something, like an upper or )

[mbcdefg]

Sept 19, 2017 20:50:27 GMT -5 sofamonkey said:

Sept 19, 2017 20:44:33 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I don't judge him for not drinking. This is just bizarre though

He probably knows that alcohol doesn't mix well with his meds/drugs etc. (and you KNOW he is on some sort of something, like an upper or )

He doesn't drink because his brother was an alcoholic. I don't know why he accepted the wine in the first place, though, if he abstains. As crappy of a person he is, nobody should be judging him for being sober.

[2curlydogs]

Sept 19, 2017 21:42:21 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Sept 19, 2017 20:50:27 GMT -5 sofamonkey said:

He probably knows that alcohol doesn't mix well with his meds/drugs etc. (and you KNOW he is on some sort of something, like an upper or )

He doesn't drink because his brother was an alcoholic. I don't know why he accepted the wine in the first place, though, if he abstains. As crappy of a person he is, nobody should be judging him for being sober.

He's not the first sober POTUS.

How did W handle these things? Not that this administration gives 2 shits, but it helps the rest of up trying to maintain a sense of what's normal.

[sporklemotion]

I would think that they could arrange for water or another non-alcoholic drink to be there for him to toast with. My guess is that's what W did? It's widely known he doesn't drink and this is the kind of thing that is easy enough to accommodate.

[bernsteincat]

When Obama and Biden had that outdoor talk over beers, Biden's beer was non-alcoholic. These things can be done gracefully, but I do agree that this should be a non-issue.

[jeaniebueller]

Sept 19, 2017 20:44:33 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I don't judge him for not drinking. This is just bizarre though

This is probably the least concerning thing Trump has done, TBH

[downtoearth]

Sept 19, 2017 21:42:21 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Sept 19, 2017 20:50:27 GMT -5 sofamonkey said:

He probably knows that alcohol doesn't mix well with his meds/drugs etc. (and you KNOW he is on some sort of something, like an upper or )

He doesn't drink because his brother was an alcoholic. I don't know why he accepted the wine in the first place, though, if he abstains. As crappy of a person he is, nobody should be judging him for being sober.

I was going to say this - I wonder if he thought it was fake alcohol (juice or sparkling juice) so he took a sip and was surprised? It's still really a strange reaction, but I reasoned it that way that he was shocked at what was in the glass.

[downtoearth]

Can I just say that the speech yesterday was so bizarre. It was a combination of strange, wrong, and hyperbole with "rocketman" thrown in there, I was so confused while listening to it real time.

Plus, maybe it's because I'm reading the HRC book, but he closed with basically HRC's campaign stump speech closer and it would have been verbatim is he would have just used her "Stronger Together" saying right after.

Fact Check Websites:

www.newsweek.com/fact-checking-donald-trump-un-speech-4-claims-lies-misleading-statements-667668

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/19/fact-check-trump-makes-misleading-boasts-economy-and-foreign-issues-u-n-speech/683568001/

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/sep/19/fact-checking-donald-trumps-speech-un/

[mbcdefg]

Sept 20, 2017 7:02:41 GMT -5 jeaniebueller said:

Sept 19, 2017 20:44:33 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

I don't judge him for not drinking. This is just bizarre though

This is probably the least concerning thing Trump has done, TBH

Oh, it's by no means an issue. He's entitled to abstain, and if they gave him a glass of wine knowing full well that he doesn't drink then that's scummy. 

The way he got it away from him like it was about to bite him was odd, but if he's THAT against alcohol (it seems like he blames it for destroying his brother's life, I've read?) then I guess it makes sense. 

It just seems odd that no other arrangements were made ... this is the UN, not some dog and pony show. One of his handlers couldn't have said, "Hey, he doesn't drink, can we get a glass of water or a Coke instead"? And why would you toast with red wine rather than champagne or sparkling cider or something?

It really is a non-issue, but he's bitch-eating-crackers for me so I'm automatically going to find fault with everything he does.

[sillygoosegirl]

Maybe he thinks that if he can convince NK to obliterate some large west coast cities, that'll help him to win the popular vote in 2020.

[Waffles]

Sept 19, 2017 13:21:10 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Can someone hold my hair? Feeling sick.

[mbcdefg]

Our press secretary is George Fucking Costanza. Lameass fake excuse after lameass fake excuse.