WTAF Dove!?

[rjamz]

Who would even come up with this idea? What the fuck???

[wildrice]

Oct 8, 2017 16:46:52 GMT -5 andwhat said:

Oct 8, 2017 14:18:15 GMT -5 wildrice said:

What I read here is that black skin is dirty/bad and white skin is clean/good.

I am angry even typing that. I can't believe that they intentionally created something implying that.

But then the white woman becomes an Asian woman. I don't have a damn clue what message this ad was trying to convey, but it doesn't seem as simple as that.

Huh. The link posted doesn't show that. Now I'm confused (though the ad is awful either way)

[anastasia517]

This is disgusting. WTF Dove.

[claudiajean]

I can't help but wonder if it's intentional. They know there are tons of racists in this country who are stupid enough to buy extra Dove if they think this is a "liberal" boycott. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm cynical.

[noodleoo]

HOLY SHIT. I have no words.

[pugz]

Has Shonda Rhimes said anything about it yet? I know she's partnered with Dove this year for some of their campaigns to redefine beauty.

www.dove.com/us/en/stories/campaigns/real-beauty-productions.html

[tiramisu]

WTF
It's like they were inspired by Michael Jackson's Black or White video and didn't think about the message this sent at all.

I'm glad I don't use any Dove products, looks like it's staying that way.

[auntie]

Is this like a UK thing?

Boots recently pulled the same crap.

www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/041c00fc-be24-4191-8974-a13148f12312

[SallyJ]

This is why representation matters in business. Executives need to be people of color. Board members need to be people of color.

I liked Luvvie's post on this:

Inspired by [name redacted] status on looking beyond boycotting. I don't do boycotts as much as I divest. Boycotting is hard because you're telling people to STOP doing something they are used to doing. A lot of times, people will yell BOYCOTT for a short period of time, but go right back to doing what it was, because it is a habit.

What makes most sense for ME is DIVESTING which is essentially the same thing put in a different word. Divest means do more of THIS thing, which will cause your money to go to more places you want it to go. I divest my monies by being intentional about spending with Black businesses, making sure I am hiring Black contractors, helping BLACK women into rooms they might not be given access to. I do that more than I am "boycotting" one brand, because in that process of me focusing on spending more dollars with Black folks, it will take away some money from places that don't serve me well.

[poundcake]

I have no idea what this ad was trying to convey. I have no Dove.

I swear by my Shea Moisture.

[NewOrleans]

[NewOrleans]

Also, Nivea did some "white is purity" campaign.

[lissaholly]

I needed to see the full ad, because I just KNEW they put the Asian woman in a yellow shirt. Good lord! Whoever mentioned that companies need POC investors over in these decisions is spot.on.

This has the full conversion

www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/dove-unilever-personal-care-racism-advert-black-woman-white-a7988641.html%3Famp

[AndyCohen]

Oct 9, 2017 9:19:03 GMT -5 socratic said:

Isn't it ironic... Unilever Dove's parent company is a dutch company.

You know the country responsible for Black Pete. They don't care

Yeah, Unilever sells skin whitening creams in Asia.

[sushi]

Oct 9, 2017 20:59:02 GMT -5 AndyCohen said:

Oct 9, 2017 9:19:03 GMT -5 socratic said:

Isn't it ironic... Unilever Dove's parent company is a dutch company.

You know the country responsible for Black Pete. They don't care

Yeah, Unilever sells skin whitening creams in Asia.

I don't know their reach, but I've seen many brands of these creams. Is it like US where so many different brands are under the same umbrella?

I saw a bus ad in Seoul that said Be White. Surprisingly to me, it wasn't for cosmetics or anything to do with purity. It was for smoothie king.

[AndyCohen]

Oct 9, 2017 21:30:00 GMT -5 sushi said:

Oct 9, 2017 20:59:02 GMT -5 AndyCohen said:

Yeah, Unilever sells skin whitening creams in Asia.

I don't know their reach, but I've seen many brands of these creams. Is it like US where so many different brands are under the same umbrella?

I saw a bus ad in Seoul that said Be White. Surprisingly to me, it wasn't for cosmetics or anything to do with purity. It was for smoothie king.

Unilever owns something like 400 companies world wide I think.

[Beeps (WOT?*)]

Comment from the black woman in the ad, as to what she thought the ad was about and how she felt about it.
Not sure that I agree with her (and I eye-roll at the title) but it's her take on it.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/10/i-am-woman-racist-dove-ad-not-a-victim?CMP=twt_gu