Post by debatethis on Oct 30, 2017 12:04:23 GMT -5
Not Russia related but HOORAY!! BREAKING NEWS: THE ASSOCIATED PRESS October 30, 2017, 12:48 PM EDT Washington (AP) -- US court bars Trump from changing military policy on service by transgender people.
The Trump campaign wasn’t Manafort’s first. He was seen as a part of GOP campaign world. Every candidate who employed him should now be suspect.
I don't think he had been doing campaign work for many years. I seem to recall that he had been a campaign guy in the 70s or maybe 80s, then got into lobbying. Which was why it was so strange that he suddenly took a campaign manager job. FOR FREE.
ETA his bio - I'm mostly right, except that he was an advisor to David Cop a Feel and Bob Dole.
So it seems possible that Papadopoulos's testimony might bring down Sessions too as he was his supervisor?
"The advisory team, headed by US Senator Jeff Sessions, includes terrorism expert Walid Phares, energy industry executive Carter Page, international energy lawyer George Papadopoulos, former government inspector general Joe Schmitz, and former Army Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, he told the Post in an on-the-record editorial board meeting, according to the media company." www.businessinsider.com/trump-names-foreign...led-by-senator-sessions-2016-3
I mean, would he go around emailing his contact, sharing info, and arranging meetings without letting his supervisor know?
Oh. I'd love to see the keebler elf do the perp walk.
Will he even want it? I'd be literally scared for my life if I were in his shoes right now.
Short of going into full-on witness protection (which I know nothing about except what's in the movies) I think he should be scared for his life either way.
You guys this Papawhatever guy is grade A level dumb dumb dumb. Jesus act like you have colluded before you big ole dummy. He didn't even try to hide the subject lines!
THIS IS AMAZING>
It sort of reminds me of that scene in Office Space where they look up the term "money laundering" in the dictionary
So it seems possible that Papadopoulos's testimony might bring down Sessions too as he was his supervisor?
"The advisory team, headed by US Senator Jeff Sessions, includes terrorism expert Walid Phares, energy industry executive Carter Page, international energy lawyer George Papadopoulos, former government inspector general Joe Schmitz, and former Army Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, he told the Post in an on-the-record editorial board meeting, according to the media company." www.businessinsider.com/trump-names-foreign...led-by-senator-sessions-2016-3
I mean, would he go around emailing his contact, sharing info, and arranging meetings without letting his supervisor know?
Oh. I'd love to see the keebler elf do the perp walk.
Perfect timing, too, since every Wal-Mart and Party City has kid-sized inmate costumes available!
I don't think he had been doing campaign work for many years. I seem to recall that he had been a campaign guy in the 70s or maybe 80s, then got into lobbying. Which was why it was so strange that he suddenly took a campaign manager job. FOR FREE.
ETA his bio - I'm mostly right, except that he was an advisor to David Cop a Feel and Bob Dole.
Yes. My point was that it wasn't like Manafort has been instrumental to anyone's campaign for anything for many, many years. If the hope was that there'd be dozens of senators, governors, and former presidential candidates for whom Manafort worked and used to advance Russian interests, I don't think we are going to find it. You have to go back twenty years to find his last campaign, and even then, he was just advising. Which sure, as we see from George P, advisors can be shady, but it's a stretch for me to think his work for the GOP has been so extensive that he can bring them all down.
I think the way to read it is, "dude hasn't worked on political campaigns for over twenty years, and decided now to jump back in." That's....off.
Also, I'm seeing a theory on Manafort on Twitter that is pretty duh, but I missed it. Manafort might not have been doing this campaign because he didn't think he'd get caught and wanted to make himself rich. Manafort could very well not have had a choice and have been ordered by Putin to join Trump's campaign. In other words, Manafort may have been more afraid of Putin than he was of federal prison.
ESF my god, i'm finally getting around to reading the seth abramson thread.
it is wild watching this all unfold live.
I haven't read it yet. The most recent ones just keep popping up in my feed and making me laugh because he's like the energizer bunny. I'm going to have to check it out later today. He's unhinged, but I do feel like I need a comprehensive timeline. Like how I need to rewatch the last season of a show before the new one comes out.
Yes. My point was that it wasn't like Manafort has been instrumental to anyone's campaign for anything for many, many years. If the hope was that there'd be dozens of senators, governors, and former presidential candidates for whom Manafort worked and used to advance Russian interests, I don't think we are going to find it. You have to go back twenty years to find his last campaign, and even then, he was just advising. Which sure, as we see from George P, advisors can be shady, but it's a stretch for me to think his work for the GOP has been so extensive that he can bring them all down.
I think the way to read it is, "dude hasn't worked on political campaigns for over twenty years, and decided now to jump back in." That's....off.
Also, I'm seeing a theory on Manafort on Twitter that is pretty duh, but I missed it. Manafort might not have been doing this campaign because he didn't think he'd get caught and wanted to make himself rich. Manafort could very well not have had a choice and have been ordered by Putin to join Trump's campaign. In other words, Manafort may have been more afraid of Putin than he was of federal prison.
This is my takeaway from Manafort's inexplicable life choices over the past 2 years. He was told to do this. Or was in a position where he needed the money from Russia that he could get/keep/whatever so he agreed. Basically he didn't really have a choice to not do it whether via orders or related to his finances.