From the GovExec article, "Trump has twice this year flirted with the idea of allowing the government to shut down, saying the country could benefit from it." The fact that Trump clearly doesn't see a shutdown as necessarily being a bad thing is not a good sign.
From the GovExec article, "Trump has twice this year flirted with the idea of allowing the government to shut down, saying the country could benefit from it." The fact that Trump clearly doesn't see a shutdown as necessarily being a bad thing is not a good sign.
I think, Trump, like always wants to do this for his ego. He sees shutting down the government as him showing who is the big boss and flexing his power. He doesn't really have a clue beyond that. And his deplorables will probably cheer because they will a) blame Ds and b) enjoy any perceived liberal tears.
Only until they can't get the government services they need/expect! They will still blames the D's...
ETA: I don't know why the quote isn't showing up, but I meant to reference @elcaires: And his deplorables will probably cheer because they will a) blame Ds and b) enjoy any perceived liberal tears.
Post by cinderbella on Dec 6, 2017 23:02:23 GMT -5
I work for VBA and legit thought this didn't apply since we were already funded for the fiscal year...... until we got an email today that basically said 'we don't know anything and we'll keep you posted'. Our department literally splits down the middle for essential/non-essential - I'm on a team that would be considered essential and I'll be so fucking pissed if there's a shutdown.
Another DOD person here and the only issue we have is people here on TDY and if they have to go home Friday. My TDY people are all essential though, so they will be here, the question is if my office is smart enough to make me essential to supervise them. They can't really be here with just anyone based on the nature of their work.
Otherwise everyone else is all "la di da."
H is tdy til end of year. If his funding is channeled through a non dod agency (will continuing to be funded) do you know if that stays intact?
I work for VBA and legit thought this didn't apply since we were already funded for the fiscal year...... until we got an email today that basically said 'we don't know anything and we'll keep you posted'. Our department literally splits down the middle for essential/non-essential - I'm on a team that would be considered essential and I'll be so fucking pissed if there's a shutdown.
Interesting, as I work for VBA too and we've heard nothing.
ETA: though this makes me feel less crazy as I thought we were funded but then wasn't sure since I couldn't find it anywhere
From the GovExec article, "Trump has twice this year flirted with the idea of allowing the government to shut down, saying the country could benefit from it." The fact that Trump clearly doesn't see a shutdown as necessarily being a bad thing is not a good sign.
I think, Trump, like always wants to do this for his ego. He sees shutting down the government as him showing who is the big boss and flexing his power. He doesn't really have a clue beyond that. And his deplorables will probably cheer because they will a) blame Ds and b) enjoy any perceived liberal tears.
Yup.
Last time, when the government shut down, my mom's neighbors were literally dancing in their driveway (they love trump.) and there was a farm on the eastern shore (super red country) with a sign out front saying something like "keep them shut down." (we have never gone back there.)
If we shut down, the deplorables wont care, and they will celebrate it because "trump is strong! he doesn't take crap from anyone!" And the fact that it will be the republicans that shut it down......wont matter at all.
Another DOD person here and the only issue we have is people here on TDY and if they have to go home Friday. My TDY people are all essential though, so they will be here, the question is if my office is smart enough to make me essential to supervise them. They can't really be here with just anyone based on the nature of their work.
Otherwise everyone else is all "la di da."
H is tdy til end of year. If his funding is channeled through a non dod agency (will continuing to be funded) do you know if that stays intact?
If he is funded, then his TDY should be fine.
I've been getting daily emails from contractors asking about status, but all of my contracts are funded, so they are supposed to show up, it's more a matter govt coverage.
Congress is voting today on a CR through the 22nd, which is expected to pass.
Just the House is voting today though, right? Or is the Senate going to vote today as well?
We still have zero guidance. Even senior leadership is basically shrugging and saying to keep an eye on the news. I thought I remembered from the last time we shut down that there were instructions that if there was a shutdown, to come in that morning for an "orderly shutdown" so people could check in with their supervisor and put up an out of office message, but there's none of that this time.
Congress is voting today on a CR through the 22nd, which is expected to pass.
Just the House is voting today though, right? Or is the Senate going to vote today as well?
We still have zero guidance. Even senior leadership is basically shrugging and saying to keep an eye on the news. I thought I remembered from the last time we shut down that there were instructions that if there was a shutdown, to come in that morning for an "orderly shutdown" so people could check in with their supervisor and put up an out of office message, but there's none of that this time.
The past few times there was the threat of a shutdown, we had several meetings about it, and what to do, etc, and then when we actually shut down we had to report for 4 hours to prepare for the shutdown or something (I remember I was listening to "divergent" at the time on audible so I sat there at my desk with my headphones in, lol.)
this time we have heard nothing which is why I think the CR will pass and then probably another one on the 22nd and then they'll hammer out either a budget or a better CR in the new year.
My desk at work is right next to one of our director's and she was calm as a cucumber on Tuesday, I figure she would have been more panicked if we were on the verge of a shutdown.
The past few times there was the threat of a shutdown, we had several meetings about it, and what to do, etc, and then when we actually shut down we had to report for 4 hours to prepare for the shutdown or something (I remember I was listening to "divergent" at the time on audible so I sat there at my desk with my headphones in, lol.)
this time we have heard nothing which is why I think the CR will pass and then probably another one on the 22nd and then they'll hammer out either a budget or a better CR in the new year.
My desk at work is right next to one of our director's and she was calm as a cucumber on Tuesday, I figure she would have been more panicked if we were on the verge of a shutdown.
Who knows anymore though.
Yeah, this is why I don't think we'll shutdown now. But I don't have the confidence you do in getting past the 22nd, lol.
Bernadine, I just cant believe they would shut the government down right before Christmas. maybe the thinking would be that it wouldn't disrupt things too much? IDK. And I know this congress is full of assholes who don't care about federal employees. But still.
Post by fuckyourcouch on Dec 7, 2017 11:52:05 GMT -5
DOI here and we got an email this morning from our agency leadership saying indications are strong that there will be a CR thru 12/22 at least. No further concern expressed.
I work for VBA and legit thought this didn't apply since we were already funded for the fiscal year...... until we got an email today that basically said 'we don't know anything and we'll keep you posted'. Our department literally splits down the middle for essential/non-essential - I'm on a team that would be considered essential and I'll be so fucking pissed if there's a shutdown.
Interesting, as I work for VBA too and we've heard nothing.
ETA: though this makes me feel less crazy as I thought we were funded but then wasn't sure since I couldn't find it anywhere
It was from our PMC front office so not anything that was distributed nationally. "As of yet, we have no news about contingency plans if the CR is not extended."
Post by seeyalater52 on Dec 7, 2017 17:37:21 GMT -5
Looks like everything is good until 12/22. Awkwardly Im having great a really hard time envisioning them passing s real budget on that timeline given the tax bill conference committee so who knows what will happen over the holidays. Hopefully they can get it together because CHIP is slated to be reauthorized as part of the package and it really needs to happen before the end of December.
Post by biscoffcookies on Dec 8, 2017 9:11:31 GMT -5
Maybe if the shutdown occurs over Christmas instead of next week Congress will be moved in the spirit of the holiday to give back pay? #lookingforasilverlining