Post by compassrose on Dec 14, 2017 17:31:42 GMT -5
I mean, I'll be calling Portman, Kasich, and fucking Mike DeWine (our AG), but thus far I feel like my calls have been pretty useless. Portman has no spine.
"Here’s how much it took for elected officials to sell you out to the telecom industry with the net neutrality repeal Mo Brooks, Alabama, $26,000 Ron Estes, Kansas, $13,807 Thomas Massie, Kentucky, $25,000 Ralph Norman, South Carolina, $15,050 John Moolenaar, Michigan, $25,000 Neal Dunn, Florida, $18,500 Mike Bishop, Michigan, $68,250 Alex Mooney, West Virginia, $17,750 Glenn “GT” Thompson, Pennsylvania, $70,500 Blaine Luetkemeyer, Missouri, $105,000 Paul Gosar, Arizona, $12,250 Richard W. Allen, Georgia, $24,250 Kevin Cramer, North Dakota, $168,500 Greg Walden, Oregon, $1,605,986 Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, $600,999 Billy Long, Missouri, $221,500 Gregg Harper, Mississippi, $245,200 Brett Guthrie, Kentucky, $398,500 Bill Johnson, Ohio, $196,666 Jeff Duncan, South Carolina, $41,830 Earl “Buddy” Carter, Georgia, $39,250 Susan Brooks, Indiana, $168,500 Gus Bilirakis, Florida, $234,400 Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma, $141,750 Mimi Walters, California, $161,500 Joe Barton, Texas, $1,262,757 Bill Flores, Texas, $127,500 Pete Olson, Texas, $220,500 Morgan Griffith, Virginia, $198,900 Tim Walberg, Michigan, $131,850 Fred Upton, Michigan, $1,590,125 Joe Wilson, South Carolina, $104,750 Martha McSally, Arizona, $84,936 Blake Farenthold, Texas, $64,250 Steve Womack, Arkansas, $104,750 Tom Marino, Pennsylvania, $130,700 Louie Gohmert, Texas, $85,055 Walter Jones, North Carolina, $72,800 Leonard Lance, New Jersey, $290,550 Steve Chabot, Ohio, $332,083 Bob Goodlatte, Virginia, $815,099 Andy Biggs, Arizona, $19,500 Mark Walker, North Carolina, $35,750 Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin, $21,200 Ken Buck, Colorado, $79,350 Larry Bucshon, Indiana, $71,750 Chuck Fleischmann, Tennessee, $42,00 David Rouzer, North Carolina, $34,300 Paul Mitchell, Michigan, $18,000 Hal Rogers, Kentucky, $360,450 Doug Collins, Georgia, $103,600 Ralph Abraham, Louisiana, $27,300 Mark Meadows, North Carolina, $14,500 Michael McCaul, Texas, $216,500 Jeb Hensarling, Texas, $270,198 Mike Simpson, Idaho, $125,200 Tom Emmer, Minnesota, $28,500 Randy Weber, Texas, $13,750 Rob Woodall, Georgia, $60,250 Ted Budd, North Carolina, $15,500 Ken Calvert, California, $219,212 Diane Black, Tennessee, $104,750 Virginia Foxx, North Carolina, $115,700 Sam Johnson, Texas, $219,785 James Comer, Kentucky, $22,750 Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, $83,250 Lamar Smith, Texas, $810,462 Steven A King, Iowa, $210,810 George Holding, North Carolina, $97,750 Rob Wittman, Virginia, $57,250 John Lee Ratcliffe, Texas, $53,950 Jason Lewis, Minnesota, $221,174 Jim Banks, Indiana, $16,303 Bill Huizenga, Michigan, $34,000 Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania, $202,500 Steven Russell, Oklahoma, $23,500 Adrian Smith, Nebraska, $165,834 Jody B Hice, Georgia, $21,000 Richard Hudson, North Carolina, $136,750 Douglas L Lamborn, Colorado, $110,543 Chris Collins, New York, $151,060 Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, Washington, $673,530 Brad Wenstrup, Ohio, $33,750 Andy Barr, Kentucky, $51,100" Source - WCCFTECH
I really don’t understand the logic here like at all.
Certainly- I very well may have misspoken. I just don’t see how this is possibly helping citizens, who they’re supposed to be representing. The only argument I’ve heard defending the decision to abolish net neutrality is “more choices for the consumer...” which has, in turn, generally been proven false by nonpartisan research firms. So the only other reason for this move, besides ruining another Obama accomplishment, is to satisfy ISP donors, right? Hence my aforementioned mumbling in disgust 😌
Post by miniroller on Dec 14, 2017 20:03:50 GMT -5
Remember who gave internet companies the power to slow down or block your access to sites online when you go to the polls in 2018 and 2020.
The obvious problem: THEY WON’T!
Ah man, you totally set me back for a second Jalapeñomel!!! 😋 I was all “How do I explain this to someone I TOTALLY thought would GET this, but might not be on the same page?!?” SIGH, great deal❤️
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
Most people don’t understand it. And most of the people who do understand it stand to profit from it, or to benefit in some other way (campaign contributions) from those who will profit.
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
Yes but they are idiots who don't know what they're talking about but hate Democrats in general, Obama in particular, and think any regulation of businesses chokes business growth and that taking away net neutrality will somehow incentivize smaller companies to create and develop, when instead what is going to happen is that the big ones who start feeling threatened will crush them into non-existence because businesses are NOT in the business of being generous.
ETA: If Twitter link isn't working, it's Brian Krassenstein
Rhode Island is planning to join, just got off the phone will Kilmartin’s office and they’re waiting to see a copy of the lawsuit language before announcing it but they’re on board.
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
What I saw people on Twitter saying (so, you know, totally intelligent people who know all the things) was that this increases competition so it will drive costs down. LOLZ.
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
I'm sure there are people out there who simply heard "Obama-era rule was overturned" and that's enough for them. Assholes.
The discouraging news though, is that if this passes with only a simple majority the Orange Menace will just veto it. In which case it would need to have 2/3 of each house to override the veto.
So say it with me, CALL YOUR SENTATORS AND YOUR REPS!!
There is a ticking clock on getting this reversed, so you really can't wait.
The discouraging news though, is that if this passes with only a simple majority the Orange Menace will just veto it. In which case it would need to have 2/3 of each house to override the veto.
So say it with me, CALL YOUR SENTATORS AND YOUR REPS!!
There is a ticking clock on getting this reversed, so you really can't wait.
I saw someone tweet at Sen Markey about doing something on the state level as well, like a back up protection on a state-by-state level. Do you happen to know any information on if this is a possibility and something we should be calling our state government, governors, AGs about as well?
ETA: If Twitter link isn't working, it's Brian Krassenstein
Call your Senators and Reps. But also call your state AG if your state isn't on this list. Colorado's AG has been so overwhelmed with calls, they have asked people provide feedback directly on their website. Instructions for Colorado:
Go to www.stopfraudcolorado.gov, click on the Report Fraud button at the top right, and then click on Tell Us Your Story. Leave your comments and they are compiling comments because they can't keep up with the phones.
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
What I saw people on Twitter saying (so, you know, totally intelligent people who know all the things) was that this increases competition so it will drive costs down. LOLZ.
That worked well when they broke up Ma Bell, right?
The discouraging news though, is that if this passes with only a simple majority the Orange Menace will just veto it. In which case it would need to have 2/3 of each house to override the veto.
So say it with me, CALL YOUR SENTATORS AND YOUR REPS!!
There is a ticking clock on getting this reversed, so you really can't wait.
I saw someone tweet at Sen Markey about doing something on the state level as well, like a back up protection on a state-by-state level. Do you happen to know any information on if this is a possibility and something we should be calling our state government, governors, AGs about as well?
I say go for it. Scream loud, far, and wide as far as I'm concerned. But how effective it will be, that probably depends on your state.
The FCC rollback provisions explicitly call out that the states aren't allowed to make their own rules, but Washington and California are for sure going to be doing as much as they can anyway to do just that - which makes sense given just how tech heavy both of our states are, and how dependent we are on our internet. Even if our states don't "get away" with it, per se, they will at least be forcing lawsuits, tying it up in court, and making ISPs think a little bit harder about doing shady things in the mean time.
Part of why these rules were put in place at the federal level in the first place was because having 50 different state regulations is kind of untenable (which is the rationale behind not letting the states put their own rules in place after the rollback). But WA at least is planning to play the loophole game, and if the states can force it back into being untenable again, the ISPs will long for these rules to be back in place.
So. who actually supports this? Other than the people who will make money off it. Is there a block of the general public who thinks this is a good idea?
What I saw people on Twitter saying (so, you know, totally intelligent people who know all the things) was that this increases competition so it will drive costs down. LOLZ.
yeah, my H's dumbfuck libertarian team Gary Fucking Johnson college buddy insists that the free market will make our internet prices go down. I have him hidden and forgot he could even see my posts until he tried to start in on me over my net neutrality post. He is like the definition of mediocre white male so his opinion means less than a pile of shit to me.
Schumer is saying there absolutely will be a CRA vote in the senate to repeal the FCC ruling, and it only needs a simple majority (they think Collins will flip, as she was opposed to the FCC rollback). However, that's not veto proof, so it might not be enough.
The GOP is planning to do their own bill the house, but it's not a full rollback of the FCC ruling - i.e. it's much wimpier, and doesn't offer the same consumer protections, it's really only about blocking and throttling, not about double dipping to charge for fast lanes, privacy protections, or protections against other anti-competitive actions. www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-tech/2017/12/18/tax-tuesday-055564 -- the part of about net neutrality is part way down in the article.
Also, Jeff Merkley (D-OR), was one of the people who had is identity co-opted for a fake pro-repeal comment on the FCC website, and he's not very happy about it.
Turns out someone impersonated me during the @fcc #NetNeutrality comment period – further proof of forged comments in this process. We need to get to the bottom of this and demand justice for those who sought to be heard.
Someone in the twitter comments also found a fake comment from OBAMA (at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave) deriding the Obama administration. OMG! www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/1051157755251
If you ever meet Ajit Pai in real life, please troll him by speaking to him very slowly and prioritising things other people say.
#NetNeutrality #SaveNetNeutrality
LOL I see Ajit occasionally. I would love to have the guts to do this the next time, but I am allergic to anything resembling a confrontation.
Oooh- you’d be my HERO if you passed the idea along to a more outgoing coworker or two- it’s genius!!😋 (And of course live-update from a front-row spectator position!)
WOT?*, according to Jay Inslee's Twitter, the AMA is going to be rescheduled. He doesn't say this explicitly, but it's almost certainly because of the train derailment.