I believe in a loving and forgiving God, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be consequences for your actions. In this case the consequences should be losing your job and going to jail.
Last Edit: Jan 11, 2018 0:43:14 GMT -5 by bugandbibs
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Also, and I know this is petty, but he never buttons his top two shirt buttons, I saw him wear jeans on the floor in the MO Capitol building, and he spouts off his military experience to earn pity votes and adoration instead of connecting with voters on real issues.
He wants to be the hip American hero.
He rappelled from an arena ceiling into a bull riding competition for fucks sake.
Wow. Do we think they’ll force him to resign? That’s pretty egregious, even among GOP politicians where the conduct bar is very low.
lol what? No. The RNC as well as individual R people will give him campaign money, someone will start a legal go fund me, the voters will debate whether she is lying altogether or clearly wanted it, and maybe orangehead will weigh in with fake news or stump for him. Meanwhile, We will all be treated to a business as usual display of rape culture. /scene
Wow. Do we think they’ll force him to resign? That’s pretty egregious, even among GOP politicians where the conduct bar is very low.
lol what? No. The RNC as well as individual R people will give him campaign money, someone will start a legal go fund me, the voters will debate whether she is lying altogether or clearly wanted it, and maybe orangehead will weigh in with fake news. /scene
I mean, the governor of Alabama was recently forced to resign in a much more benign situation so I’m not sure this warrants an lol....
Sometimes the state party decides you’re a liability and crowds you out.
Wow. Do we think they’ll force him to resign? That’s pretty egregious, even among GOP politicians where the conduct bar is very low.
lol what? No. The RNC as well as individual R people will give him campaign money, someone will start a legal go fund me, the voters will debate whether she is lying altogether or clearly wanted it, and maybe orangehead will weigh in with fake news or stump for him. Meanwhile, We will all be treated to a business as usual display of rape culture. /scene
Agreed. Besides, that whore got what she deserved, what did she expect, messing around with a married man!? /s
Wow. Do we think they’ll force him to resign? That’s pretty egregious, even among GOP politicians where the conduct bar is very low.
lol what? No. The RNC as well as individual R people will give him campaign money, someone will start a legal go fund me, the voters will debate whether she is lying altogether or clearly wanted it, and maybe orangehead will weigh in with fake news or stump for him. Meanwhile, We will all be treated to a business as usual display of rape culture. /scene
Meh, it wasn't a young boy, it was a grown slut (or was it an underage temptress slut?). God and his wife forgave him, so we have to.
Seriously, there are a lot of fucking vile people in this world, but that really sets the vile bar high (blindfolding/pictures/etc.).
Wow. Do we think they’ll force him to resign? That’s pretty egregious, even among GOP politicians where the conduct bar is very low.
After watching the GOP throw their support behind an alleged child molester I don't think there is a bar anymore.
There's nothing they won't excuse at this point.
A GOP state Senator was just forced to resign in Kansas this week. Idk, but there’s still a bar even if it’s applied unevenly and inconsistently. There are a lot of factors at play. For example, in Roy Moore’s case, they got stuck with him after the primary so it was him or no one (and the allegations blew up much more after the primary had finished.) In other cases, a scandal is a liability to the party because it decreases the efficacy of this person and in some cases their power and influence in implementing the party’s agenda (esp true for a governor.) I dont know enough about MO to know which is more likely in this case, which is why I asked.
We have an office there so I guess I’ll just put a call in and see what they think.
lol what? No. The RNC as well as individual R people will give him campaign money, someone will start a legal go fund me, the voters will debate whether she is lying altogether or clearly wanted it, and maybe orangehead will weigh in with fake news. /scene
I mean, the governor of Alabama was recently forced to resign in a much more benign situation so I’m not sure this warrants an lol....
Sometimes the state party decides you’re a liability and crowds you out.
There was campaign finance law at work there, too, though. Also I think Moore lowered the bar so much for acceptability.
I mean, the governor of Alabama was recently forced to resign in a much more benign situation so I’m not sure this warrants an lol....
Sometimes the state party decides you’re a liability and crowds you out.
There was campaign finance law at work there, too, though. Also I think Moore lowered the bar so much for acceptability.
maybe govs matter less to the GOP? IDK
It sounds like this person probably broke some actual laws in the process of being a creep, so they could investigate. It just depends if it benefits to get him out or not. Plus it takes a while, it was like a year to get Bentley out.
As to mattering more or less I actually think it reflects that the governors are just different. It’s not a matter of Dems picking up the seat; in almost all cases, a resigning governor is replaced by the lt governor of the same party. They lose nothing numbers-wise, but potentially a lot to gain if they think the scandal will keep them from getting stuff done, or if they like the lt gov better for some reason etc. A governor is also a much more important party figure in a state than a US Senator is, and much more powerful. They actually influence the agenda, unlike most random Senators (esp junior ones.)
Anyways, I wouldn’t be shocked at all if this is the beginning of the end for him but MO is one of the few states where I don’t actually work and know nothing about so that’s a shot in the dark.
Reasonable people can disagree about whether adultery is newsworthy. But you'd think we all could agree that an ex-husband should never, ever get to speak for the woman who left him. Even if she cheated. Even if she felt intimidated by a politician's actions during their first hookup. It's not for her ex to decide whether the intimate details she told him in a moment of crisis are grist for the rest of us.
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In a transcript of the very tape he'd later release to KMOV, the man begins to rant about how Greitens' actions with his wife don't match his public image. He's just gotten confirmation of the sexual interaction he's long suspected, and he's livid. "This motherfucker is running for governor," he says at one point. "... He comes off as this motherfucking manly hero and it's all about resilience and honor and all that."
"I knew you would obsess," the woman tells her ex in the transcript he's given the media of her confession. "You're obsessed."
Later, the man warns, "I could destroy his career in half an hour."
"If you do that, then I would hate you," she says.
It took him more than half an hour. But it's pretty clear the cheated-upon husband got his revenge.
Reasonable people can disagree about whether adultery is newsworthy. But you'd think we all could agree that an ex-husband should never, ever get to speak for the woman who left him. Even if she cheated. Even if she felt intimidated by a politician's actions during their first hookup. It's not for her ex to decide whether the intimate details she told him in a moment of crisis are grist for the rest of us.
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In a transcript of the very tape he'd later release to KMOV, the man begins to rant about how Greitens' actions with his wife don't match his public image. He's just gotten confirmation of the sexual interaction he's long suspected, and he's livid. "This motherfucker is running for governor," he says at one point. "... He comes off as this motherfucking manly hero and it's all about resilience and honor and all that."
"I knew you would obsess," the woman tells her ex in the transcript he's given the media of her confession. "You're obsessed."
Later, the man warns, "I could destroy his career in half an hour."
"If you do that, then I would hate you," she says.
It took him more than half an hour. But it's pretty clear the cheated-upon husband got his revenge.
And, IMO, it's pretty clear that's what he was out for...much more so than just 'finding out the truth'...based on the fact that he recorded the conversation.
Post by birdistheword on Jan 11, 2018 11:38:51 GMT -5
He's such a POS. He was big on family values/sanctity of marriage during his campaign, which makes this all the more infuriating. He was already on the shit list of everyone in MO public education after some REALLY shady dealings regarding our State Board of Education. He is the worst.
Reasonable people can disagree about whether adultery is newsworthy. But you'd think we all could agree that an ex-husband should never, ever get to speak for the woman who left him. Even if she cheated. Even if she felt intimidated by a politician's actions during their first hookup. It's not for her ex to decide whether the intimate details she told him in a moment of crisis are grist for the rest of us.
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In a transcript of the very tape he'd later release to KMOV, the man begins to rant about how Greitens' actions with his wife don't match his public image. He's just gotten confirmation of the sexual interaction he's long suspected, and he's livid. "This motherfucker is running for governor," he says at one point. "... He comes off as this motherfucking manly hero and it's all about resilience and honor and all that."
"I knew you would obsess," the woman tells her ex in the transcript he's given the media of her confession. "You're obsessed."
Later, the man warns, "I could destroy his career in half an hour."
"If you do that, then I would hate you," she says.
It took him more than half an hour. But it's pretty clear the cheated-upon husband got his revenge.
He knew about this during the campaign? We were thisclose to getting Koster. Why did that motherfucker have to wait!?! (Not that I condone his behavior of course, just would have loved a Koster administration).
Sorry, I haven't been around much here. I do, indeed, hate this man. What makes me laugh in an "OMG this shit is unbelievable" way is that a couple of days before this came out our lovely state legislature announced they are considering a bill that would completely nullify any marriage not carried out in a church. We already have a completely unconstitutional law on the books defining marriage as being between one man and one woman. The rest, if the bill were to pass into law, would be considered "unions". The sponsor of the bill has done it a couple of other times and the bill has always fizzled out, but still, the fact that such hatred is spewed in my state is rage inducing. As for Grietens, he's shady AF, he lies, this affair happened while his wife was pregnant, he literally came from nowhere and is pretty much the face of dark money and he's leading us faster than even those I know in the state legislature expected to a scary place, and he's an arrogant fool. There's no way he will ever resign. Hell, just last week the piece of shit representative Warren Love went unpunished after his comments that vandals of confederate monuments should be hanged. Remember that last summer Maria Chappelle-Nadal was called to resign after her comments about a Drumpf assassination, and was censured by the Legislature and reprimanded by R's. Love was barely commented on and he was pretty much off the hook just by disagreeing with the House Ethics Committee's findings that he should be stripped of his committee placements and also should be reprimanded. He said no, and the rest of the R's said okay, you're off the hook. MO politics are getting worse by the day, and the new session starting is going to make last year look like a carnival. I'm truly scared to think how much further down we are going to go.