greengardener, I guess I’m not sure why you’d need more embryos right now? You know your frostie is normal, right? And stats say one of your current ones is normal. You have a 70% chance with each normal. Fwiw, I’d go ahead with the transfer and hope it sticks and you have a potential sibling in the freezer. I suspect I am missing a lot of details factoring into your decision...
Post by seeyalater52 on Jul 4, 2018 9:12:53 GMT -5
I’m so sorry Jalapeñomel. I have been there and it’s just so incredibly hard. Sending <3
Also really hoping that quality over quantity holds true for both of you compassrose and greengardener and that your PGS testing turns up some beautiful normal embryos.
I’m headed back to the states after a week in Scotland.
I’m feeling very lonely in my journey, as it seems everyone around me is getting pregnant.
We will transfer our last blast the end of this month.
I’m in the same boat as you plus a $20k bill for it. Sending good wishes your way. It’s hard to stay hopeful some says. I’m trying to take mental breaks, but it’s hard as age and $$ is really weighing in my mind.
Sending you and your embryo much love Jalapeñomel. Sorry you're feeling so alone. Hopefully this FET will be the one.
greengardener, I guess I'm biased because I don't have any insurance coverage and I have always been someone to hoard things, but doing another retrieval now, while you're younger and covered, doesn't seem like a terrible idea, although I understand the physical/emotional/time cost. I'm so sorry this cycle didn't leave you with an easier decision.
Post by cherryvalance on Jul 4, 2018 11:26:23 GMT -5
greengardener, that is a difficult choice. Damn. Personally, I would want to move forward, but what your RE is saying makes sense. What do you think would be best for you, mentally?
greengardener , I guess I’m not sure why you’d need more embryos right now? You know your frostie is normal, right? And stats say one of your current ones is normal. You have a 70% chance with each normal. Fwiw, I’d go ahead with the transfer and hope it sticks and you have a potential sibling in the freezer. I suspect I am missing a lot of details factoring into your decision...
RE likes to have 2 normal embryos for every live birth. The idea is that it's better to do retrievals now while eggs are younger. If I were to get pregnant & have a loss, it would really mess things up. I'm almost 39, so time is of the essence.
Perhaps the route we took would be beneficial for you as well. We only had 1 PGS normal embryo and our FET was cancelled because I just didn't respond well to the transfer meds. I did, however, have good lining and hormone levels during my stim cycle.
We ended up doing another stim cycle and retrieval, which included freezing and testing all blasts. Then, instead of waiting for results and trying an FET cycle later on, we followed the protocol for a fresh 5 day transfer. But instead of a fresh transfer, we used our previously frozen normal embryo. And it worked We also have two more PGS embryos on ice from that retrieval.
Egg quantity and quality were our biggest issues, and I was terrified of wasting time as well. So this was a really perfect solution.
I’m headed back to the states after a week in Scotland.
I’m feeling very lonely in my journey, as it seems everyone around me is getting pregnant.
We will transfer our last blast the end of this month.
I’m sorry you are feeling lonely. In the last 2 months there have been 7 new babies between my friends and family with 1 more due any day, so I can empathize.
Omg I arrived for a 9 am appt at 8:45 and didn’t leave until 11! And they had to stab me 3 times to get a blood draw. I’m doing outside monitoring this week and will need to come back to this clinic, which is a 70 minute drive, tomorrow or Saturday. :/
Also, my feet and ankles are super puffy, and I think it’s the injections. Also someone walked in on me doing injections last night at my dad’s party. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Perhaps the route we took would be beneficial for you as well. We only had 1 PGS normal embryo and our FET was cancelled because I just didn't respond well to the transfer meds. I did, however, have good lining and hormone levels during my stim cycle.
We ended up doing another stim cycle and retrieval, which included freezing and testing all blasts. Then, instead of waiting for results and trying an FET cycle later on, we followed the protocol for a fresh 5 day transfer. But instead of a fresh transfer, we used our previously frozen normal embryo. And it worked We also have two more PGS embryos on ice from that retrieval.
Egg quantity and quality were our biggest issues, and I was terrified of wasting time as well. So this was a really perfect solution.
When I asked about this, I was told that they don't like to do transfers the same cycle as retrieval. The thought is that it's rough on your body, and success rates are lower. That's what my nurse told me, but I haven't talked to the doctor yet. I'll bring it up when I get to talk to her.
That's interesting, since the majority of transfers at most clinics are fresh transfers which obviously happen in the same cycle as a retrieval. My Dr was very optimistic about this for me (and with good reason, it worked!), and said that they don't use this "hybrid" cycle method very often simply because of the expense for most people (because FET is so much cheaper). I would still encourage you to talk to the Dr about it.
Regarding retrieval and FET in the same cycle...RE said no. I completely trust her, so I'm not going to question it. This was her reasoning: "The hyper-stimulated environment of the injectable cycle for IVF we think increases the risk of obstetrical complications such as placenta previa and preeclampsia."
I'm glad she has a solid reason anyway. ((hugs)). What's your threshold? If one or both of your embryos come back normal, will you proceed with the FET?
Has your period come yet, btw? Mine came Monday and is pretty much over now.
Regarding retrieval and FET in the same cycle...RE said no. I completely trust her, so I'm not going to question it. This was her reasoning: "The hyper-stimulated environment of the injectable cycle for IVF we think increases the risk of obstetrical complications such as placenta previa and preeclampsia."
When I asked about this, I was told that they don't like to do transfers the same cycle as retrieval. The thought is that it's rough on your body, and success rates are lower. That's what my nurse told me, but I haven't talked to the doctor yet. I'll bring it up when I get to talk to her.
That's interesting, since the majority of transfers at most clinics are fresh transfers which obviously happen in the same cycle as a retrieval. My Dr was very optimistic about this for me (and with good reason, it worked!), and said that they don't use this "hybrid" cycle method very often simply because of the expense for most people (because FET is so much cheaper). I would still encourage you to talk to the Dr about it.
I find this interesting too. My doctor used to do only frozen transfers, then started doing fresh again when she saw no difference in live birth rates or complications. Of course, I've only gotten pregnant on fresh cycles, so...
CD1 today & big ol' box of meds will be coming today. Fx that insurance approval comes through Monday, so I can start stimming.
Good luck! You are such a trooper doing this multiple cycles in a row. I’m seriously impressed by your stamina (I realize you’re just doing what you need to like all of us, but it’s still impressive you keep moving forward).
Post by seeyalater52 on Jul 7, 2018 13:43:58 GMT -5
greengardener good luck with your cycle! I hope the insurance approval comes in quickly. I’m so sorry your mother in law is being so awful, it sounds like you did the right thing not giving her any information.
Oh my goodness, greengardener, how annoying! I found out I was a CF carrier when I was 13w with our first, and the wait for H’s tests to come back was interminable. I am hoping they get cleared soon!
Love of my life baby boy born 11/11. One and done not by choice; 3 years of TTC yielded 4 MMC and 2 CPs, through 4 IUIs and 2 IVFs. Focusing on making the world a better place instead...and running.
My sister is a CF carrier, which was a shock to all of us. She had to get her H tested too. For that reason, I requested genetic testing specifically for CF when we started TTC.