Maybe we should just dedicate this thread to random thoughts/questions/deep thoughts from the MOTN? There's a lot of us, but not enough to keep starting new posts it seems?
Anyways. I'm thinking of maybe moving D to his own room next time C is away and see how it goes. He's so loud and grunty, and I wonder if I'm not over intervening as a result. He's only 3 weeks today, but I'm really starting to struggle and i know sleep is a driving factor in my inability to deal with the rest of my emotions.
You have full support from me on moving D into his own room. Both of my kids went into their own rooms right from the beginning. Rooming in with S in the hospital reminded me why I don’t room share at home (grunt grunt snork).
Post by lovelyshoes on Jun 20, 2019 9:23:43 GMT -5
You should definitely try. I remember moving my oldest was the best thing for his sleep. We don’t have a room for the baby and I think it would definitely help.
He only seems to nap on me. I love it, but also need a break. If I put him down he wakes up.
melmaria - My son is nearly 12 weeks and we do a version of eat play sleep. I sort of try to make it sleep, change diaper, play a bit, eat, play some more, change diaper if needed, quiet time, then sleep. That way he is a bit more full for his nap.
His naps were really short at 8 weeks too. Now he'll sleep 35-45 minutes by himself. Still working on getting through the first sleep cycle on his own. I do wear him for at least one nap of the day so I can get more things done and then he gets at least one really good solid nap too. I usually wear him for his first morning nap. A week or two ago Cara had an Insta story about how it's normal they still want to be worn or carried around for naps. She said to just try at least 20% of their naps solo. That advice has helped me a lot!
melmaria we did the eat play sleep routine, but not until 4 months. It's good to try and not nurse to sleep, but unfortunately I think baby is probably just too young for it to really stick. I did have to eliminate that sleep association, but it was manageable. Also, babies are notorious for short naps as they cant connect cycles.
DD is 3 weeks today! She is such a chill and easy baby. She mostly gives me 3 hour stretches of sleep between 8:30p-7:30a ish, sleeps well in her bassinet, and gives me 2 long naps a day. Its been a dream compared to DS, and I feel so well rested. It means she clusterfeeds a lot when she's awake, but I'll take it.
DS is still struggling BIG TIME. He's acting out at daycare and at home, and requires a ton of attention. THANK GOD I decided to continue sending him to daycare full time otherwise I think I'd be severely depressed and be itching to go back to work.
melmaria, neither of my kids do that routine. Both want to nurse every 2 hours. So it ends up being eat play eat sleep. I'm only just now starting to worry about the nurse to sleep association at 3 months but I'll wait to take steps to correct it when E2 is about 4 months and is neurologically mature enough to soothe himself to sleep.
I don't really understand putting your baby to sleep with an empty, or nearly so, stomach. I feel like that's just asking for short naps.
melmaria, neither of my kids do that routine. Both want to nurse every 2 hours. So it ends up being eat play eat sleep. I'm only just now starting to worry about the nurse to sleep association at 3 months but I'll wait to take steps to correct it when E2 is about 4 months and is neurologically mature enough to soothe himself to sleep.
I don't really understand putting your baby to sleep with an empty, or nearly so, stomach. I feel like that's just asking for short naps.
melmaria, neither of my kids do that routine. Both want to nurse every 2 hours. So it ends up being eat play eat sleep. I'm only just now starting to worry about the nurse to sleep association at 3 months but I'll wait to take steps to correct it when E2 is about 4 months and is neurologically mature enough to soothe himself to sleep.
I don't really understand putting your baby to sleep with an empty, or nearly so, stomach. I feel like that's just asking for short naps.
Mine wants to nurse when he gets up and before a nap. My oldest was ff, but same concept and I don’t remember him having a bottle-sleep association. At this point I just want him to nap independently.
I'm with pooh8402 and scm1011. Eventually we'll do nurse, story, sleep instead of nursing to sleep, but at 2 weeks we aren't there yet. I never did more than stories between nursing and sleep with DD either.
Is anyone else having nausea and/or food aversions? I am struggling to eat enough because I feel gross all day. Dr Google tells me the postpartum hormone drop can mimic 1st tri morning sickness.
DD is just over a week old and has already passed her birth weight. Nursing this time has been so much easier than with DS.
Baby #3 is 4 weeks old today. She's been my best sleeper and honestly I think it just has to do with the baby. Or maybe I'm just more relaxed and not so worried about getting her on a schedule? I'm also realizing that I most definitely had PPD with DS2. Its been a huge release being able to acknowledge that even if it's to myself and four years later.
Can someone reassure me that I can't overfeed this kid? We've been mixing in formula (50/50) for about 3 days now but I think it's also corresponding with a bit of a growth spurt because he's eating a LOT....like 4 oz every 3 hours. Sometimes it will stretch to close to 4, but everything I'm reading online says that's a fair bit more than normal. We are always starting with around 3 oz but he's almost always crying for more.
He hasn't shot up in weight though (we have a hatch scale at home) so maybe he's just catching up from his first week and a half when he had jaunice/anemia/NICU/breastfeeding struggles?
Also - he is definitely cluster eating at night. When bottle fed babies cluster feed, do you reduce the amount you are giving them? He's INSATIABLE from 8 pm - midnight or so.
melmaria, neither of my kids do that routine. Both want to nurse every 2 hours. So it ends up being eat play eat sleep. I'm only just now starting to worry about the nurse to sleep association at 3 months but I'll wait to take steps to correct it when E2 is about 4 months and is neurologically mature enough to soothe himself to sleep.
I don't really understand putting your baby to sleep with an empty, or nearly so, stomach. I feel like that's just asking for short naps.
I have the same mindset.
Me 3.
And dr Karp
And our former sleep consultant Alexis (author of precious little sleep)
Is anyone else having nausea and/or food aversions? I am struggling to eat enough because I feel gross all day. Dr Google tells me the postpartum hormone drop can mimic 1st tri morning sickness.
DD is just over a week old and has already passed her birth weight. Nursing this time has been so much easier than with DS.
Yes 😔 I can eat a granola bar and glass of milk in the morning, a cheese quesadilla at lunch and then a normal dinner. But I’m not hungry and food doesn’t really sound good. I attributed it to not nursing but what you said about hormones makes sense!
woowoo You are fine! Most babies will stop eating when they are full. FWIW I see that most babies eat 2.5 ounces per pound of body weight a day but that is just an average. So he may just be on the higher end of the curve while my guy is on the lower end #variationsofnormal
woowoo You are fine! Most babies will stop eating when they are full. FWIW I see that most babies eat 2.5 ounces per pound of body weight a day but that is just an average. So he may just be on the higher end of the curve while my guy is on the lower end #variationsofnormal
ditto. I thought E1 was a big eater (in terms of volume throughout the day) but E2 is downing 5 oz bottles every 3 hours at daycare and when DH cares for him! he's barely 3 months old. he regularly takes 18-24 oz when away from me for 13 hours.
What soap do you use to wash the bottles, pump parts? I used dawn last time, and now, but a lot of time has passed and should I use something else?
regular dish soap. every once in a while, I'll use the medela breastmilk soap to get that film off, but like 90% of the time, just whatever I use for the rest of the dishes.
woowoo - DD has always gotten pissed if we give her less than 4.5 oz in a bottle. As long as you're doing paced feeding, your baby will let you know when they're full. DD also eats a ton of food right before bed. Like, a full bottle followed by at least 15-20 minutes of nursing. And sometimes she wants to nurse before her evening bottle, too. Last night it was a full bottle followed by 20 minutes on each side before she was full. She's a bit older than your kiddo (5.5 months), but we've been following that feeding routine for a few months now.
I will probably regret it later, but I nurse DD to sleep every night. I love getting that extra bonding time with her at the end of the day. I also always find myself thinking about how it's an experience I'll only get to have with her now, and that I don't want to miss out on those extra chances to have that time with her. Plus, while I'm nursing her to sleep my H cleans bottles and pump parts and takes the dogs out and does the rest of the evening chores...
When is breastfeeding going to suck less? I mean, it's going fine aside from a lip tie we may need to fix, but I hate it. I feel trapped. I cant leave the house without him. I cant take a long nap. Etc etc etc.
On that note, we are introducing the bottle this weekend. Any tips?
hamster - Is pumping an option for you? I mostly BF so I don't pump enough to have a freezer stash or anything, but we try to keep a couple of bottles in the fridge at all times so that I can have breaks when I need them.
hamster, the main tip that comes to mind is to not only have your husband or someone else give him the bottle but try to be out of the house or at least in a completely different part of the house so the baby doesn't think you're there. At least until he realizes that bottles are NOT the enemy
Also, if he doesn't take to one type of bottle don't worry! Sometimes babies have to try a few different ones before they find one they don't hate.
Post by Patsy Baloney on Jun 20, 2019 16:19:34 GMT -5
melmaria, have you tried limiting your kiddo's feeding time? I feel like I've just popped up around here to give feeding advice, lol, but that might help you feel less touched-out. We just went through a whole how-to-feed thing with my 6 week old (he was born with a cleft in his soft palate) and speech therapy and pediatrician advised to try to keep feedings to a 20-30 minute time frame so baby isn't burning a ton of calories with feedings beginning to bleed into each other.
Also, with the eat/play/sleep thing, we did that with my daughter, but I think I started it around the 3 month age range, and it was really loose, something like eat, sit in bouncer for a little bit to digest while I sat and sang along to Disney's Pandora station, then off to sleep. If you let your DD get dead asleep on you, will she stay asleep for a transfer to a crib, bassinet, or other sleep space? That's how I get some pretty hefty naps with my son.
And, hi all. I'm not new, but my username is (I was Licia on ML years ago) and I left for a bit, but now I'm on maternity leave and find myself here again. Congrats on all the babies!
hamster - Is pumping an option for you? I mostly BF so I don't pump enough to have a freezer stash or anything, but we try to keep a couple of bottles in the fridge at all times so that I can have breaks when I need them.
It is. I have a vision of a 6 am pump each day before the children are up. I've managed a few sessions so there are some bags in the freezer and one in the fridge we can work off of this weekend. But I'm totes cool with a bottle of formula if need be.
He let me get a two hour nap just now, so that's good.
hamster - Is pumping an option for you? I mostly BF so I don't pump enough to have a freezer stash or anything, but we try to keep a couple of bottles in the fridge at all times so that I can have breaks when I need them.
It is. I have a vision of a 6 am pump each day before the children are up. I've managed a few sessions so there are some bags in the freezer and one in the fridge we can work off of this weekend. But I'm totes cool with a bottle of formula if need be.
He let me get a two hour nap just now, so that's good.
It took us a while to find a good rhythm, but I sneak in a morning pump every day so that I have an extra bottle for bedtime. If I wake up before DD, I pump both sides. If she wakes up first, I feed her from one side and pump the other. It was really stressful at first because I was always afraid that we would run out of bottles while I was away from her, but now that we've found a routine it's really nice to have options for being away from her for a few hours.
melmaria , have you tried limiting your kiddo's feeding time? I feel like I've just popped up around here to give feeding advice, lol, but that might help you feel less touched-out. We just went through a whole how-to-feed thing with my 6 week old (he was born with a cleft in his soft palate) and speech therapy and pediatrician advised to try to keep feedings to a 20-30 minute time frame so baby isn't burning a ton of calories with feedings beginning to bleed into each other.
Also, with the eat/play/sleep thing, we did that with my daughter, but I think I started it around the 3 month age range, and it was really loose, something like eat, sit in bouncer for a little bit to digest while I sat and sang along to Disney's Pandora station, then off to sleep. If you let your DD get dead asleep on you, will she stay asleep for a transfer to a crib, bassinet, or other sleep space? That's how I get some pretty hefty naps with my son.
I did a couple of timed and weighted feeds with a lactation consultant, and we determined that she gets the majority of her meal in the first 20 minutes (3 ounces) and another ounce or so in the next 15-20. So the last 15-20 minutes are not wasted time. She’s just a slow/lazy eater. If I try to cut her off early, she just fusses until I feed her again 30 min later.
And no, whether I put her down completely dead asleep or drowsy, she doesn’t stay down for more than 20 minutes in her bassinet.
Argh! That's annoying on all fronts. I guess my only other advice is to put all these shenanigans down in the baby book for some solid mom-guilting later on in life.
You guys helped me with the decision to move my DS into his room at 6 weeks and it was a great decision. He is 3 months now and either sleeps through the night or wakes only once. He was such a loud newborn and I was definitely responding to his every noise which just made me so tired and miserable. Much better now.
I always nurse my kids down. That’s just what works for us. With both, I have done eat, play, eat, sleep basically.
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