Week of September 16th

[joenali]

Nothing going on for me. Good luck to everyone this week where ever you are in this process! ❤️

[achi]

In the TWW here. Will know for sure one way or the other by Friday/Saturday. Feeling very unprepared if it's a BFP.

[megstoo]

My last pill to force a cycle was Monday of last week.... still no cycle. I'm really not even sure where or what to do next. I can do a couple weeks of BC to try that or try another 7 days of prometrium. Prometrium worked last time however my lining was to thick at baseline so it got cancelled.

I'm also finding my temper to get somewhat out of control. DH's cousin announced on FB she's pregnant (she got pregnant 3 weeks after getting married) and for some reason that just stings. I also snapped at DH that I feel like I'm not getting any support and am alone in this which of course was the wrong thing to say but it's true. It doesn't help my FIL wants to come out and visit and I told DH that we come first and his dad can work around OUR FET schedule.

[ilovecandy]

Achi keeping my fingers crossed

Megstoo I feel you. My fil texted us last week that he has a spinal biopsy that one of us needs to take him too on Tuesday morning. Guess what day is my retrieval (we didn't know it at the time).

Retrieval tomorrow morning. 7 follicles yesterday at my appointment fingers crossed for a good attrition rate like last time.

On another note I am getting tired of people assuming that I can do stuff for them because I work only part time (right now not working during ivf). I am thinking about pissing a lot of people off right now and telling them all to fuck off but I can't tell if that is partly the meds heightening that.

On a better note I had to prepay my retrieval this morning and it was less than I was expecting so yay! They discount our stuff since w ehave insurance but it doesn't pay for ivf. I think they are discounting it more than what we were originally told because we are paying about 2 grand less than I was originally told

[achi]

megstoo I'm sorry, that's really hard about your H's cousin. Of course it stings.

ilovecandy good luck tomorrow!

[moonriver]

Hoping for the best, achi

ilovecandy I hope all goes well for you tomorrow!

megstoo sorry you’re still in this phase of waiting. So frustrating.

We’re waiting for my next bleed so then I can do another gonal-f with iui cycle. If it doesn’t work, we need to decide if we are done trying or if we want to move on to IVF. I’m seriously torn and don’t know what I’ll do.

[ilovecandy]

Thanks everyone 4 eggs retrieved

Eta I should add I am not particularly loving that and am concerned about making it to blastocyst but I guess we will only see. It only takes one

[achi]

FX for all your eggs ilovecandy!

[ilovecandy]

All four fertilized! Now to wait til Monday for the day 6 report.

[msmerymac]

Met with the doctor to go over the results of my D&E and recurrent loss panel yesterday. Nothing. Nothing unusual, nothing that's a problem. All levels look good. Results of the D&E was just 46 XX, which was expected, since we did the genetic testing.

We're going to move forward with basically an immune protocol. My RE doesn't believe in long-term steroid use, but we're going to do the PIO, estrace, baby aspirin (all I've done before), plus lovenox, intralipids, and neupogen. I know someone at my practice who just did a neupogen wash when she did a transfer, but this is going to be injections. Almost 2 vials per week. At $350 per vial.   I've heard I'll stay on until probably 12 weeks (since all my losses have been at 6 weeks) and lovenox throughout an entire pregnancy if I get that far. Thankfully the lovenox is cheap, but if this works, I'm looking at spending $11k OOP in the first trimester, what with my transfer cost and medication that's not covered by insurance. Super great. 

I'm also doing an ERA next month (plan is to transfer in January). Although we can also test for silent endo during the ERA, it's another $800 on top of the other biopsy, and it's just cheaper to assume I have it and do progesterone priming the cycle before the transfer, so we'll do that in December.

[VacayVaca]

Sept 18, 2019 8:46:30 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Met with the doctor to go over the results of my D&E and recurrent loss panel yesterday. Nothing. Nothing unusual, nothing that's a problem. All levels look good. Results of the D&E was just 46 XX, which was expected, since we did the genetic testing.

We're going to move forward with basically an immune protocol. My RE doesn't believe in long-term steroid use, but we're going to do the PIO, estrace, baby aspirin (all I've done before), plus lovenox, intralipids, and neupogen. I know someone at my practice who just did a neupogen wash when she did a transfer, but this is going to be injections. Almost 2 vials per week. At $350 per vial.   I've heard I'll stay on until probably 12 weeks (since all my losses have been at 6 weeks) and lovenox throughout an entire pregnancy if I get that far. Thankfully the lovenox is cheap, but if this works, I'm looking at spending $11k OOP in the first trimester, what with my transfer cost and medication that's not covered by insurance. Super great. 

I'm also doing an ERA next month (plan is to transfer in January). Although we can also test for silent endo during the ERA, it's another $800 on top of the other biopsy, and it's just cheaper to assume I have it and do progesterone priming the cycle before the transfer, so we'll do that in December.

I'm sorry you didn't find anything with the recurrent loss panel.  It's harder to not know what's going on since there's no clear answers to know how to get past it.  And those are seriously sickening numbers on the medications.  I'm so sorry.  

Do you have any remaining frozen embryos?  I can't remember if you need to do another retrieval.

[VacayVaca]

Sept 18, 2019 7:05:14 GMT -5 ilovecandy said:

All four fertilized! Now to wait til Monday for the day 6 report.

What fabulous news!  Grow little embryos!

I always found the updates on the embryos' progress really stressful, regardless of whether it was good or bad news.  I can't decide if it's better to not hear for a longer period of time, or to get regular updates.  I'm sorry you have to wait until Monday, though--it feels so far away!

[msmerymac]

Sept 18, 2019 9:39:11 GMT -5 VacayVaca said:

Sept 18, 2019 8:46:30 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Met with the doctor to go over the results of my D&E and recurrent loss panel yesterday. Nothing. Nothing unusual, nothing that's a problem. All levels look good. Results of the D&E was just 46 XX, which was expected, since we did the genetic testing.

We're going to move forward with basically an immune protocol. My RE doesn't believe in long-term steroid use, but we're going to do the PIO, estrace, baby aspirin (all I've done before), plus lovenox, intralipids, and neupogen. I know someone at my practice who just did a neupogen wash when she did a transfer, but this is going to be injections. Almost 2 vials per week. At $350 per vial.   I've heard I'll stay on until probably 12 weeks (since all my losses have been at 6 weeks) and lovenox throughout an entire pregnancy if I get that far. Thankfully the lovenox is cheap, but if this works, I'm looking at spending $11k OOP in the first trimester, what with my transfer cost and medication that's not covered by insurance. Super great. 

I'm also doing an ERA next month (plan is to transfer in January). Although we can also test for silent endo during the ERA, it's another $800 on top of the other biopsy, and it's just cheaper to assume I have it and do progesterone priming the cycle before the transfer, so we'll do that in December.

I'm sorry you didn't find anything with the recurrent loss panel.  It's harder to not know what's going on since there's no clear answers to know how to get past it.  And those are seriously sickening numbers on the medications.  I'm so sorry.  

Do you have any remaining frozen embryos?  I can't remember if you need to do another retrieval.

Yeah, I have 5 normal from my last (and best) retrieval remaining (after getting 9, doing a fresh transfer, a frozen transfer, and having 2 test abnormal), and 1 normal and 1 non-concurrent from my last clinic that I brought with me. I've decided I'm done with retrievals. I've done 5 total. I'm 37 now. I have a good amount left, so we'll see what happens. I might save a couple at the end so if I win the lottery I can hire a gestational carrier.

[ilovecandy]

Sept 18, 2019 9:45:31 GMT -5 VacayVaca said:

Sept 18, 2019 7:05:14 GMT -5 ilovecandy said:

All four fertilized! Now to wait til Monday for the day 6 report.

What fabulous news!  Grow little embryos!

I always found the updates on the embryos' progress really stressful, regardless of whether it was good or bad news.  I can't decide if it's better to not hear for a longer period of time, or to get regular updates.  I'm sorry you have to wait until Monday, though--it feels so far away!

I am not sure either I think in some ways it may be better to just hear at the end now. I was super stressed for the fertilization report and made my husband open the email. I will be ecstatic for two and happy for one given attrition rates. We did have a really good attrition rate last time but we only grew out to day 3 sooo we will seem. Quality over quantity and it only takes all and all that jazz is what I keep repeating.

[VacayVaca]

Sept 18, 2019 9:49:00 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Sept 18, 2019 9:39:11 GMT -5 VacayVaca said:

Yeah, I have 5 normal from my last (and best) retrieval remaining (after getting 9, doing a fresh transfer, a frozen transfer, and having 2 test abnormal), and 1 normal and 1 non-concurrent from my last clinic that I brought with me. I've decided I'm done with retrievals. I've done 5 total. I'm 37 now. I have a good amount left, so we'll see what happens. I might save a couple at the end so if I win the lottery I can hire a gestational carrier.

Oh wow, I didn't know you had done so many retrievals--that's a lot to endure.  I'm glad you have a good supply of embryos left, but I know it's scary when there's no guarantee anything will work right.  I'm glad your RE is making a really aggressive plan with you.  Fingers crossed and lots of hugs for you.  


ilovecandy  All my fingers are crossed for your embryos.  Everything I've read indicates you get fewer at 5 days but that they tend to do better.  I'm hoping you have some really good fighters.

[achi]

My temp dropped drastically this morning. Looks like a BFN which I am 98% ok with. I'm a little bummed, but mostly relieved. Not sure I could have handled the anxiety that would have followed a positive right now.