December Randoms

[pandora89]

I cant believe it's December already! What is everyone up to? How is everyone?

AFM - 11 weeks pregnant, I did the panorama test last week so hoping to get the results this week. NT scan is a week today! DS is strong in toddlerhood, the tantrums are lots of fun (not) and he is so, so stubborn but both DH and I are stubborn as well so what did we expect. He had his 18 month appointment on Friday and is in the 98th percentile for height & weight lol. He has a lot of words but his vocabulary just exploded this weekend and he has been repeating EVERYTHING we say. I was talking to DH and called someone an idiot and DS repeated it after so I guess I should start being more careful about what I say around DS lol.

He had an epic tantrum this weekend and I was getting a bit flustered and tagged out, told DH he needs to take over and DS just chased after me saying "mama mama MAMA" and came up to me and hugged my legs. lol What a suck, he 100% knows how to play us.

[shauni27]

pandora89, exciting on the panorama and NT scan! YAY!

Also, boy can I relate to the toddler stage. The tantrums are SO STRONG. For us at least, they seem to go in waves--week or two with wicked tantrums, then week or two where you are just sure your kid is the sweetest, lol.

S meanwhile, nearly 2.5 (wahhhhh) has decided ON HIS OWN to stop using binkie! Which is a HUGE deal because he is addicted to it. He does GREAT during the day and in the car, but bedtime has taken an hour each night AND last night (this morning??) he was up crying from 3-6. I am SO tired. We also got our first little snow of the season and S is OBSESSED. Total change from last year. He is really putting sentences together and is so funny and sweet. He is very polite and always asks "how are you, mommy?" or will say "I'm sorry, it was an accident" about the oddest things (he asked me to beep the horn but I said no because there were too many cars around. His response was "im sorry i asked, it was an accident," lolol)

He is excited for Christmas and asked for Elsa and a snowman. He has never seen either, lol.

[pandora89]

shauni27 - Lol I am glad I am not the only one in tantrum hell. I feel like E is SO much worse when H is around. The tantrums are much more frequent and last much longer. H is such a suck with E though and lets him get away with everything meanwhile I dont and am a bit stern. If E and I are home alone or out alone, he is just so much easier to deal with. I had a bit of a heart to heart with DH this weekend about it because I felt like it was effecting my relationship with E since H was obviously the favourite parent since I was the mean parent and DH was the nice parent. I think it's helped as DH handed all the tantrums this morning.

Omg! That is adorable. Haha. DS said his first full sentence this weekend. I asked him if he was tired and he responded with "I get tired" LOL.

[shauni27]

pandora89, now that he had this word explosion he is also feeling like he CAN communicate more (which he can!) but still not very effectively or efficiently, hence the bigger tantrums.

[janegold]

pandora89, how are you feeling? I'm 11+1 and still miserable. I'm praying that all this first tri nonsense subsides by next week...but it was more like 18 weeks with B until I started feeling much better, and 30 before I could get by without meds

B turns 3 this week! I can't believe it. He appears to be suffering sympathy pains with me - he likes to tell me that his belly hurts because "my baby sister in there" (we don't know the sex yet, lol). We're closing on a new house next week with a big yard and room for another kid - bye bye city! I'm really sad to be leaving B's school, more than anything. Lots of big changes happening around here - eek!

[pandora89]

janegold - Sorry you have been feeling so rough! Thankfully symptoms havent been bad over here. I get nauseous in the mornings if I dont eat but other than that it hasnt been to bad. Cramps throughout the day, I had tiny spotting twice but nothing since then and had multiple ultrasounds after that showed everything was fine. I also broke out the home doppler haha. That is so cute! I cant believe B is already almost 3. DS really doesnt know whats going on but H once told him there was a baby in my belly while I was using the doppler and now he will come up to my belly and press it and say "baby" or pick up the doppler and say baby and talk into it lol.

We keep having the debate on whether we want to sell our small semi in the city and move to a house with a bigger yard and more room but we just cant pull the trigger.

[janegold]

Dec 2, 2019 14:21:29 GMT -5 pandora89 said:

janegold - Sorry you have been feeling so rough! Thankfully symptoms havent been bad over here. I get nauseous in the mornings if I dont eat but other than that it hasnt been to bad. Cramps throughout the day, I had tiny spotting twice but nothing since then and had multiple ultrasounds after that showed everything was fine. I also broke out the home doppler haha. That is so cute! I cant believe B is already almost 3. DS really doesnt know whats going on but H once told him there was a baby in my belly while I was using the doppler and now he will come up to my belly and press it and say "baby" or pick up the doppler and say baby and talk into it lol.

We keep having the debate on whether we want to sell our small semi in the city and move to a house with a bigger yard and more room but we just cant pull the trigger.

Glad - and jealous! - you've been feeling good! That's so sweet that he talks to the doppler!  

We've waffled forever over whether/when to move, but it wasn't until the last 6 months or so that we started to acutely feel how nice it would be to have outdoor space (we have none at all currently) with a growing kid and a dog.  It's bittersweet for sure, and there's so many pros and cons on each side of city vs burb, but it feels like the right time for us. 

[red]

Hey all, haven’t been posting much. So many folks dealing with toddlers that sound like my niece.

I feel like I’ve been pregnant forever. 38+2 today. He’s predicted to be huge, 98-99th percentile for head and stomach, so they scheduled me for a Csection next Tue (12/10). That’s 39+3 and they are thinking he’ll be ~10 lbs. I did not have GD but H and his side tend to be 9.5 pounders apparently. Was hoping my body would go early on its own so I could try vaginally. I know they can be off with US, so I am torn. He’s been consistently big on US at 30, 34 and 37 wks and my fundal height has been 2 wks ahead since then as well, so I’m not sure they can be that wrong? Anecdotes? Wish I had my crystal ball!

[shauni27]

janegold, I somehow missed that you were pregnant?!! Congratulations! Sorry you have been feeling sick though. Also, exciting about the move! We move into our new house next week too. Exciting and also overwhelming (not to mention $$$)

red, OMG YOU ARE HAVING A BABY IN ONE WEEK! How exciting!

[loira]

Dec 2, 2019 20:46:57 GMT -5 red said:

Hey all, haven’t been posting much. So many folks dealing with toddlers that sound like my niece.

I feel like I’ve been pregnant forever. 38+2 today. He’s predicted to be huge, 98-99th percentile for head and stomach, so they scheduled me for a Csection next Tue (12/10). That’s 39+3 and they are thinking he’ll be ~10 lbs. I did not have GD but H and his side tend to be 9.5 pounders apparently. Was hoping my body would go early on its own so I could try vaginally. I know they can be off with US, so I am torn. He’s been consistently big on US at 30, 34 and 37 wks and my fundal height has been 2 wks ahead since then as well, so I’m not sure they can be that wrong? Anecdotes? Wish I had my crystal ball!

I think boiler717's DS was predicted to be huge and came out smaller.

[loira]

No big tantrums here, but I really wish I could give A more opportunities to play one on one with other kids. I don't have any friends with kids who live in our city. The other day I dropped her off at preschool and one of the girls was obviously happy to see A, chanting her name and bouncing up and down. And A just stood there and stared at her. So I bent down and whispered that it's polite to greet our friends, and when she still didn't say anything I tried to model the behaviour. Her teacher said the goal is for A to make a friend she actually plays with - this was her goal last year too. She doesn't seem to care, but I know that as she gets older she will notice, and so will the other kids and they'll leave her out of stuff. She's GREAT with adults, very chatty and will engage completely, so it's not as if she doesn't know how. She's in preschool and swimming and gymnastics, so she gets lots of exposure to other children... I dunno, maybe it's not a big deal?

[shauni27]

red, they also predicted S to be closer to 9-10 lbs. I never measured necessarily ahead, just that I had a big baby growing in there based on what they were seeing (and how huge my belly was!)

We were all surprised when he was just 7 lbs when he was born!

[shauni27]

loira, I would absolutely not worry about that at this point. She is independent and does not seem to be bothered by it right now. I would think that things will change over time. Do not stress it!

[awkwardpenguin]

Dec 2, 2019 20:46:57 GMT -5 red said:

Hey all, haven’t been posting much. So many folks dealing with toddlers that sound like my niece.

I feel like I’ve been pregnant forever. 38+2 today. He’s predicted to be huge, 98-99th percentile for head and stomach, so they scheduled me for a Csection next Tue (12/10). That’s 39+3 and they are thinking he’ll be ~10 lbs. I did not have GD but H and his side tend to be 9.5 pounders apparently. Was hoping my body would go early on its own so I could try vaginally. I know they can be off with US, so I am torn. He’s been consistently big on US at 30, 34 and 37 wks and my fundal height has been 2 wks ahead since then as well, so I’m not sure they can be that wrong? Anecdotes? Wish I had my crystal ball!

Why did you get the extra scans?  Because you were measuring ahead?

ACOG guidelines do not recommend C-section until an estimated fetal weight of 5000 grams (11 lbs) in mothers without diabetes and 4500 grams (9 lbs 15 oz) in mothers with diabetes.  Induction is also not recommended for suspected big babies under ACOG guidelines.

I had GD and a suspected big baby and he was 7 lbs 12 oz when he was born at 40+1. My growth scan at 36 weeks said he was already almost 3500 grams, so obviously it was off since that is what he weighed at birth.  Estimates become less reliable as fetal weight goes up, so that's another thing to consider.

I'd definitely talk to your provider if you are not feeling comfortable about an elective c-section.  Unless there's something else medical going on, it doesn't seem like his size should override your preference to try a vaginal birth, at least not yet.

[red]

Dec 3, 2019 17:25:36 GMT -5 awkwardpenguin said:

Dec 2, 2019 20:46:57 GMT -5 red said:

Hey all, haven’t been posting much. So many folks dealing with toddlers that sound like my niece.

I feel like I’ve been pregnant forever. 38+2 today. He’s predicted to be huge, 98-99th percentile for head and stomach, so they scheduled me for a Csection next Tue (12/10). That’s 39+3 and they are thinking he’ll be ~10 lbs. I did not have GD but H and his side tend to be 9.5 pounders apparently. Was hoping my body would go early on its own so I could try vaginally. I know they can be off with US, so I am torn. He’s been consistently big on US at 30, 34 and 37 wks and my fundal height has been 2 wks ahead since then as well, so I’m not sure they can be that wrong? Anecdotes? Wish I had my crystal ball!

Why did you get the extra scans?  Because you were measuring ahead?

ACOG guidelines do not recommend C-section until an estimated fetal weight of 5000 grams (11 lbs) in mothers without diabetes and 4500 grams (9 lbs 15 oz) in mothers with diabetes.  Induction is also not recommended for suspected big babies under ACOG guidelines.

I had GD and a suspected big baby and he was 7 lbs 12 oz when he was born at 40+1. My growth scan at 36 weeks said he was already almost 3500 grams, so obviously it was off since that is what he weighed at birth.  Estimates become less reliable as fetal weight goes up, so that's another thing to consider.

I'd definitely talk to your provider if you are not feeling comfortable about an elective c-section.  Unless there's something else medical going on, it doesn't seem like his size should override your preference to try a vaginal birth, at least not yet.

Thank you for this information! Yes, they started the extra scan at 30wks because my stomach was measuring a few weeks ahead. H really wants me to do the C section, somewhat because I had surgery on my coccyx area last Dec and he’s worried that will tear open, but probably a lot of it has to do with his Mom and sister having C sections after failing vaginally.

[insominac]

Today is baby insom’s transfer anniversary! She just turned 4 months old and she’s a delight. Even at 5:30am.

[pandora89]

Panorama came back all low risk! And we are having a girl!

[kellikans]

Congrats pandora89! So many people I know with boys for their first are now pregnant with girls. It happened with us, too!

We're doing well. DS is almost 21 months. He is so fun at this age. His language has exploded, which I'm so happy about since he is dual language and I've heard that it takes a lot longer for them to speak. But he's talking all.the.time. He's also challenging, but that's to be expected at this point. We still have a really hard time with getting him to eat anything. Although at daycare he seems to be eating 2 and 3 servings of what they give him. What the heck. Must be the peer pressure of seeing other kids eating.

DD is 5 months and has gotten to be much more pleasant to be around lol. She's getting more interactive and is so smiley and her little giggles kill me. She sleeps through the night for the most part. She just never naps and it's tough during the days that I'm home with both kids. The other day I got maybe an hour and a half out of her. And then she gets to be a cranky mess. Hopefully this stops soon.

[loira]

Dec 5, 2019 14:40:15 GMT -5 pandora89 said:

Panorama came back all low risk! And we are having a girl!

Fantastic! Congratulations!

[shauni27]

I am having a tough time right now. Because S gave up the binkie on his own, he has been sleeping terribly for the last 10 days. Takes forever to fall asleep, tons of crying and screaming, waking up two to three times at night and taking between 5 minutes and 2 hours to fall back to bed, waking up for the day at 5, not napping, etc. He has been averaging between 7-10 hours of sleep per 24 hour period, which I know is not enough. He is acting up more because of it. I feel like such a bad parent--I am short with him because I am tired and because he is acting up. Should I just get him a new binkie (which is what he wants, he just doesn't like any of his old ones because he bit through them all)? Stick with it and get through this?

On top of that, work is crazy, we move this week, there is so much to do, Christmas is in a hot minute, I feel so fucking overwhelmed and stressed in every aspect of my life. BLAHHHHHHHHHH.

[thoseareradishes]

shauni27, E struggled at night for a few weeks after we ditched her pacifier. It was really rough. Hang in there, sounds like you have a lot going on right now!

E has decided she doesn't want to sit on the potty anymore, so that's fun. No idea why all of the sudden she's being so stubborn about it. Not too worried about pee, but would rather she didn't start holding poop.

[loira]

I'm sorry shauni27 that seems like a lot to handle.

[boiler717]

Dec 3, 2019 20:36:07 GMT -5 red said:

Dec 3, 2019 17:25:36 GMT -5 awkwardpenguin said:

Why did you get the extra scans?  Because you were measuring ahead?

ACOG guidelines do not recommend C-section until an estimated fetal weight of 5000 grams (11 lbs) in mothers without diabetes and 4500 grams (9 lbs 15 oz) in mothers with diabetes.  Induction is also not recommended for suspected big babies under ACOG guidelines.

I had GD and a suspected big baby and he was 7 lbs 12 oz when he was born at 40+1. My growth scan at 36 weeks said he was already almost 3500 grams, so obviously it was off since that is what he weighed at birth.  Estimates become less reliable as fetal weight goes up, so that's another thing to consider.

I'd definitely talk to your provider if you are not feeling comfortable about an elective c-section.  Unless there's something else medical going on, it doesn't seem like his size should override your preference to try a vaginal birth, at least not yet.

Thank you for this information! Yes, they started the extra scan at 30wks because my stomach was measuring a few weeks ahead. H really wants me to do the C section, somewhat because I had surgery on my coccyx area last Dec and he’s worried that will tear open, but probably a lot of it has to do with his Mom and sister having C sections after failing vaginally.

Sorry I didn’t get the tag earlier! Yes, my son had consistently high percentiles from 18w until 39w. I had u/s at least monthly at MFM for his kidneys, and he would always be 99th percentile on shoulders, head, abdomen, and femur.
I also had a prior surgery — I had a vertical incision for an emergency laparotomy because of endometriosis, and my OB (who had done that surgery), was worried that if we got into an emergent situation that it would take a lot longer to get to the baby. That was the official reason why he recommended a scheduled c-section — if it had been just size or normal size with the surgical history but he felt like with the size data I was at an increased risk for needing an emergency c-section and the surgical history could complicate things. I also think my size was an unspoken factor in it TBH. I was pretty disappointed because I had done hypnobabies and really wanted a med-free birth.
In the end, I had the scheduled c-section and he was 8#8 with a 24-hour weight of 8#. Even when they pulled him out the OBs commented that he seemed even smaller than your average 8#8 baby.
However, my scheduled c-section was AMAZING. I would do it again (well, if I had another kid) in a second). All the things I wanted about a med-free birth were able to happen — I watched him come out, we did skin to skin in the OR, I wasn’t food restricted at all, I was up and walking 6 hours after delivery (catheter out) and showering on my 12 hours later, my milk came in within 24 hours of delivery, etc. I think being able to go into delivery and birth being well-rested helped a ton with my mental and physical health during recovery as well.

[boiler717]

Dec 9, 2019 11:56:30 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I am having a tough time right now. Because S gave up the binkie on his own, he has been sleeping terribly for the last 10 days. Takes forever to fall asleep, tons of crying and screaming, waking up two to three times at night and taking between 5 minutes and 2 hours to fall back to bed, waking up for the day at 5, not napping, etc. He has been averaging between 7-10 hours of sleep per 24 hour period, which I know is not enough. He is acting up more because of it. I feel like such a bad parent--I am short with him because I am tired and because he is acting up. Should I just get him a new binkie (which is what he wants, he just doesn't like any of his old ones because he bit through them all)? Stick with it and get through this?

On top of that, work is crazy, we move this week, there is so much to do, Christmas is in a hot minute, I feel so fucking overwhelmed and stressed in every aspect of my life. BLAHHHHHHHHHH.

Ugh it’s so hard. I feel like we pushed the paci after biting holes and it wasn’t good. He asked for one daily for MONTHS. It took probably 2 months for his sleep to regulate, but it did end up improving sleep overall (no more early AM wakings when he couldn’t find the paci). In the end it was worth it but I don’t blame you for getting another one!

[kellikans]

And how quickly things turn. DS has had a bad cold/fever for the last few days and he's so so fussy. He is snotting and drooling everywhere and it's so gross. And he refuses to eat anything. He's hardly eaten anything since Friday. It is so frustrating.

DD has had diarrhea for over a week. Took her to the pedi yesterday and turns out she has c. diff. 😔 So now we start her on Flagyl and hope it clears up quickly. Poor thing has gotten such a horrible diaper rash from the constant diarrhea. And she has caught DS's cold now, too, and is so congested.

Also, we get to fly 5 hours to Florida next Sunday for Christmas. God I hope everyone is on the mend by then.

And I feel like I've been failing at mom'ing lately. I just keep losing my patience too quickly. And it's so tough because I wanted this so much, you know? Ugh.

[boiler717]

Dec 17, 2019 18:02:27 GMT -5 kellikans said:

And how quickly things turn. DS has had a bad cold/fever for the last few days and he's so so fussy. He is snotting and drooling everywhere and it's so gross. And he refuses to eat anything. He's hardly eaten anything since Friday. It is so frustrating.

DD has had diarrhea for over a week. Took her to the pedi yesterday and turns out she has c. diff. 😔 So now we start her on Flagyl and hope it clears up quickly. Poo thing has gotten such a horrible diaper rash from the constant diarrhea. And she has caught DS's cold now, too, and is so congested.

And I feel like I've been failing at mom'ing lately. I just keep losing my patience too quickly. And it's so tough because I wanted this so much, you know? Ugh.

Oh no!! T had C diff and we couldn’t get him to take the meds at all. He kept vomiting. He ended up clearing it on his own so the doc gave us the okay to stop the meds. What helped the most I think was starting him on Florastor (it’s a probiotic that has more efficacy against C. diff than other probiotics) and being SUPER vigilant about hygiene. We ended up keeping him to one bathroom and everyone else using the other. Regular cleaners will not kill C. diff spores, so I had to make my own bleach solution and then I found healthcare grade Clorox wipes on amazon to helps as well. We would do extended hand washing after bathroom trips (stock up on hand lotion too!), wipe down every single thing (door knob, faucet, light switch, etc) with a Clorox wipe. Then 2X a day I would bleach clean the entire room (you have to let it sit on there for 10 min to kill spores IIRC). I got a new toilet brush, trash can, took out hand towels from the bathroom and only used paper towels, etc. I had him sit on blankets in the house in case of leaks (his diarrhea was pretty explosive). I also washed all of his clothes and bedding on hot. While it seems like a lot, hygiene is so critical to stopping it.
I’m so sorry you are going through this!! Wish I could come help you clean and drink wine!

[kellikans]

Dec 17, 2019 18:12:51 GMT -5 boiler717 said:

Dec 17, 2019 18:02:27 GMT -5 kellikans said:

And how quickly things turn. DS has had a bad cold/fever for the last few days and he's so so fussy. He is snotting and drooling everywhere and it's so gross. And he refuses to eat anything. He's hardly eaten anything since Friday. It is so frustrating.

DD has had diarrhea for over a week. Took her to the pedi yesterday and turns out she has c. diff. 😔 So now we start her on Flagyl and hope it clears up quickly. Poo thing has gotten such a horrible diaper rash from the constant diarrhea. And she has caught DS's cold now, too, and is so congested.

And I feel like I've been failing at mom'ing lately. I just keep losing my patience too quickly. And it's so tough because I wanted this so much, you know? Ugh.

Oh no!! T had C diff and we couldn’t get him to take the meds at all. He kept vomiting. He ended up clearing it on his own so the doc gave us the okay to stop the meds. What helped the most I think was starting him on Florastor (it’s a probiotic that has more efficacy against C. diff than other probiotics) and being SUPER vigilant about hygiene. We ended up keeping him to one bathroom and everyone else using the other. Regular cleaners will not kill C. diff spores, so I had to make my own bleach solution and then I found healthcare grade Clorox wipes on amazon to helps as well. We would do extended hand washing after bathroom trips (stock up on hand lotion too!), wipe down every single thing (door knob, faucet, light switch, etc) with a Clorox wipe. Then 2X a day I would bleach clean the entire room (you have to let it sit on there for 10 min to kill spores IIRC). I got a new toilet brush, trash can, took out hand towels from the bathroom and only used paper towels, etc. I had him sit on blankets in the house in case of leaks (his diarrhea was pretty explosive). I also washed all of his clothes and bedding on hot. While it seems like a lot, hygiene is so critical to stopping it.
I’m so sorry you are going through this!! Wish I could come help you clean and drink wine!

I've had it, too and I remember cleaning like a fiend. I threw out everything in my bathroom after my symptoms cleared.

Luckily she's not mobile, so we can keep her contained. I agree, hand washing is huge. I'm even considering putting on gloves for her diaper changes since I'm slathering diaper cream all over her butt every time. I just hope she takes the Flagyl OK. She didn't take the tiny bit of oral steroid at urgent care very well when she had croup. And DS is a super champ at taking meds. And hopefully it clears up soon. 2-3 days is what I'm reading. I was on vanco when I had it and the diarrhea pretty much stopped the next day, but I know it's a much stronger drug.

[thoseareradishes]

Oh my goodness kellikans, I hope your kids are better asap.

[loira]

Dec 17, 2019 18:02:27 GMT -5 kellikans said:

And I feel like I've been failing at mom'ing lately. I just keep losing my patience too quickly. And it's so tough because I wanted this so much, you know? Ugh.

I'm sorry. You're not failing. We all lose our patience. I'm particularly prone to this when A is sick because she's never the cuddly, tired kind of sick. She's always the raging tantrummy, overly emotional kind of sick kid. And the rational part of me knows she's just little and isn't feeling well, but the totally irrational part of me gets completely fed up.

[King26]

Dec 9, 2019 11:56:30 GMT -5 shauni27 said:

I am having a tough time right now. Because S gave up the binkie on his own, he has been sleeping terribly for the last 10 days. Takes forever to fall asleep, tons of crying and screaming, waking up two to three times at night and taking between 5 minutes and 2 hours to fall back to bed, waking up for the day at 5, not napping, etc. He has been averaging between 7-10 hours of sleep per 24 hour period, which I know is not enough. He is acting up more because of it. I feel like such a bad parent--I am short with him because I am tired and because he is acting up. Should I just get him a new binkie (which is what he wants, he just doesn't like any of his old ones because he bit through them all)? Stick with it and get through this?

On top of that, work is crazy, we move this week, there is so much to do, Christmas is in a hot minute, I feel so fucking overwhelmed and stressed in every aspect of my life. BLAHHHHHHHHHH.

Dont give in to the binkie. We had a rough time with j for 2 straight weeks when we took it in june. We finally had to re sleep train him and nighttime and naps have been so much better since!