I selected EW without hesitation. At first I wasn't going to pick a second or third, because none of them. But then I added Klobuchar and Biden. I don't particularly like either of them, but I don't think they'd mess anything up. I think Buttigieg needs more experience before being in consideration.
Post by penguingrrl on Feb 20, 2020 13:38:18 GMT -5
Warren is top and has been all along. After her I put Klobuchar and then Biden. Not absolutely thrilled with them but out of who’s left they’re the best options.
Warren then Amy. Last time I had Bernie as my 3rd choice because his policies align most closely with Warren's and that matters to me (and why I like Liz so much). But I'm having a real hard time clicking that box.
Post by DotAndBuzz on Feb 20, 2020 14:17:05 GMT -5
1) Warren
2) Biden. I....didn't hate him, he knows what he's doing and how to do it, and I don't think he'll be a train wreck.
3) Picked Pete this time. I really hoped Klobuchar would lock it down last night, but she is WAY too easily rattled, and struggles answering hard questions under pressure. But I definitely understand why she gets pissed, and I would've been tempted to scream out "are you FUCKING kidding me Pete?!" They're both so close for me though, pros and cons for each.
I picked Biden and Warren. still undecided as my top choice.
Im also curious about the Amy Klobuchar love. I like some of what she says, and she’s had some good hits in debates. But she is polling so low with POC and I haven’t seen her address that in any way. Maybe I missed it?
I'm surprised that Klobuchar is still polling so high in this forum
I agree. I wanted to like her but I cannot get past how badly she treats her staff. How you treat people who work for you says a lot about a person, IMO.
I'm surprised that Klobuchar is still polling so high in this forum
I hate her almost as much as I hate Bernie but I’m a lot less loud about it. Treating staff poorly is my hill to die on and I have first-hand accounts of her staff abuse. No thank you.
I reallllllly want to see a woman in office. According to a recent online quiz (wapo I think?), my views align mostly with Pete so he was my third. I wouldn't be devastated if it was Biden. Everyone else is obviously a huge hell no.
I hate her almost as much as I hate Bernie but I’m a lot less loud about it. Treating staff poorly is my hill to die on and I have first-hand accounts of her staff abuse. No thank you.
Seriously, plus I really feel like out of former prosecutors turned Senators, Kamala Harris should be here, not her. Amy's record hasn't been vetted nearly as hard as Harris was. And Amy's debate performance last night was awful. She seemed pretty unprepared that anyone would ask questions about her voting record.
In her responses and body language last night I could see the simmering abusive rage that boils beneath the surface for the first time at being challenged by someone she views as her "inferior." It is kind of scary.
I was on the fence about Amy until last night. Like others, I have heard some accounts of how she treats her staff (via friend who works for another D senator) and while I took news reports with a grain of salt, I take accounts from a friend with more seriousness. I thought she did terribly last night and I think there are other, better options in that lane, even if they have a penis. I am probably also biased and bitter that she’s still in it and Kamala is out so I do own that.
As far as my three: Warren, Biden and Pete I guess. I vote any day I want at this point and am planning on Warren. Super Tuesday is our official voting date but early voting began last week.
I originally was for Warren, then waivered, and now I’m fully behind Warren again. I can vote anytime I want through Super Tuesday. I’m holding off a bit to make sure nothing changes.
In her responses and body language last night I could see the simmering abusive rage that boils beneath the surface for the first time at being challenged by someone she views as her "inferior." It is kind of scary.
I definitely found her remarks "we all can't be as smart as you!!" and "are you mocking me or do you think I'm dumb?" to be very unsettling.
Ditto. I feel like in a nonsensical debate with Trump she would either erupt into flames or dissolve into a puddle on the floor. There was no sense of controlling the conversation.
Post by Dumbledork on Feb 20, 2020 17:12:24 GMT -5
I’m glad I’m not alone in my Amy dislike. I don’t really like Pete either though, honestly. I understand her anger that he’s a mayor getting the same recognition as a Senator, but something about her anger feels icky to me.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think her record on LGBTQIA rights is anything to cheer about, and I do wonder if part of her anger is rooted in some form of homophobia.
I want a candidate that knows the word intersectionality and why it’s important to acknowledge. I want one that knows and is concerned about the rate of violence against trans and non-binary individuals in our country, and recognizes that it’s higher among blacks and poc.
I don’t think Amy is that candidate. I could see her understanding and siding with the old person in Iowa that said ‘He’s gay? That ruins everything’
Now, to be fair, I don’t trust Pete knows and supports intersectionality either. It’s my biggest issue with him, but Amy doesn’t get a pass either.
My ISideWith is Pete, Amy, Warren, Bernie. My actual preference right now is Warren, distant second to Biden, more distant third to Pete. I’m ready for the rest to go home and gotv.
This is where I sit. Don't get me wrong, I will fall in line if it's Bernie or Biden or whoever (OK, not Tulsi and probably not even Bloomburg), but I've loved Warren for a long time and nobody else even comes close. Never was a Bernie fan and I loved Joe when he was VP, but not so much now. Can't really get into Pete or Amy either.
Post by DotAndBuzz on Feb 21, 2020 16:16:52 GMT -5
I just got my first Bernie text, asking if I'm in to support Bernie.
My reply was "absolutely not, I'm voting for Warren"...and a few reasons why (Bernie's divisive, purity tests, waited to start his "revolution" until a Black man was president, and a woman was running for president)
So then he asked who my 2nd choice was. Told him Biden was a very distant second.
Post by curbsideprophet on Feb 21, 2020 19:41:22 GMT -5
Warren is my top choice. Early voting has already started here in NC (Super Tuesday state). I need to finish researching a few more local elections first.