New Lularoe article on Buzzfeed

[pierogigirl]

Lularoe


It also links to previous Buzzfeed articles about Lularoe.

[pumpkin]

Interesting, thanks

[morecoffeeplease]

I knew a few people who sold it and almost all of them got out a long time ago. There is still a girl near me who is selling and I have no idea how she's still afloat.

They keep introducing new styles. It HAS to be impossible to keep up.

[turnipthebeet]

In 1969 Maurine Startup published a book called The Secret Power of Femininity, which instructs women to, among other things, practice saying “I am just a helpless woman at the mercy of you big, strong men” to catch a guy. The couple turned this work into $300 “Femininity Forums,” sessions where they would teach women how to find a husband

Fuck I hate these people. (Maurine was the mother of the lady who started LLR, if you haven't read the article).

[knx9211]

Feb 22, 2020 13:51:53 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

I knew a few people who sold it and almost all of them got out a long time ago. There is still a girl near me who is selling and I have no idea how she's still afloat.

They keep introducing new styles. It HAS to be impossible to keep up.

Yes. I know a girl who still sells and I feel like she’s constantly posting new styles. I feel like it must be the only way that the company is making money. No one is moving any of the old styles, and thus not buying more of them from LLR, so they have to introduce a million new styles to get anyone to buy anything.

[cjcouple]

My friend is still going strong and making a decent profit. She said she is adding to her kids college fund every month. She isn't working crazy hours like these people in the article though. She probably does 1 wall drop a week. She maintains a FT job. She legot runs it as a small business and has separate FB page with over 1k followers and never pesters our friends(or me). The clothes seem to sell themselves.

[morecoffeeplease]

Feb 22, 2020 14:57:46 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

My friend is still going strong and making a decent profit. She said she is adding to her kids college fund every month. She isn't working crazy hours like these people in the article though. She probably does 1 wall drop a week. She maintains a FT job. She legot runs it as a small business and has separate FB page with over 1k followers and never pesters our friends(or me). The clothes seem to sell themselves.

But I think part of the article's point was that it's a facade. So I don't know how anyone would make money with out how much you have to put in. Just in the last few months they have released and/or added more denim, shirt styles, a cardigan, joggers, and a jacket. I know there are people making money but like the girl in the article, I bet a TON do even realize they aren't making money

[morecoffeeplease]

So I was curious and went to their website to see their styles. I haven't really paid attention in a long time but I did have close friends that sold it and got out. Since my friends have gotten out, it looks like they have added 29 styles. That's insane for an at home retailer.

Edit: that doesn't include things like christmas and valentines collections.

[cjcouple]

Feb 22, 2020 15:05:39 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

Feb 22, 2020 14:57:46 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

My friend is still going strong and making a decent profit. She said she is adding to her kids college fund every month. She isn't working crazy hours like these people in the article though. She probably does 1 wall drop a week. She maintains a FT job. She legot runs it as a small business and has separate FB page with over 1k followers and never pesters our friends(or me). The clothes seem to sell themselves.

But I think part of the article's point was that it's a facade. So I don't know how anyone would make money with out how much you have to put in. Just in the last few months they have released and/or added more denim, shirt styles, a cardigan, joggers, and a jacket. I know there are people making money but like the girl in the article, I bet a TON do even realize they aren't making money

IDK she has an accounting degree so she probably is finding a way to make it work. I honestly don't know but she says she is doing well.

You wouldn't catch me selling any MLM. I refuse to even buy it. She never asked me. That's why we are still friends. lol

[wildrice]

Feb 22, 2020 15:16:41 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

Feb 22, 2020 15:05:39 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

But I think part of the article's point was that it's a facade. So I don't know how anyone would make money with out how much you have to put in. Just in the last few months they have released and/or added more denim, shirt styles, a cardigan, joggers, and a jacket. I know there are people making money but like the girl in the article, I bet a TON do even realize they aren't making money

IDK she has an accounting degree so she probably is finding a way to make it work. I honestly don't know but she says she is doing well.

You wouldn't catch me selling any MLM. I refuse to even buy it. She never asked me. That's why we are still friends. lol

Everyone says they are doing well when they sell MLMs. I am convinced they are all lying. That is part of their marketing strategy and consultants are trained to say they are doing awesome, but they almost never are.

[cjcouple]

Feb 22, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -5 wildrice said:

Feb 22, 2020 15:16:41 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

IDK she has an accounting degree so she probably is finding a way to make it work. I honestly don't know but she says she is doing well.

You wouldn't catch me selling any MLM. I refuse to even buy it. She never asked me. That's why we are still friends. lol

Everyone says they are doing well when they sell MLMs. I am convinced they are all lying. That is part of their marketing strategy and consultants are trained to say they are doing awesome, but they almost never are.

Could be but I honestly don't know. I don't ask many questions. Just an occasional "how's it going?" to be polite.

[goldengirlz]

I don’t understand the psychology of the people who continue to buy into LLR (any MLM, really, but especially LLR)— denial? Hubris? Thinking that what has happened to thousands of others won’t happen to them? It’s not like it’s hard to find this sort of information these days. And for someone with another source of income, why would you want to stake your reputation on this nonsense? Even if — best case scenario — you make a profit, you’re doing it for a super shady company that has put countless people into financial trouble. And, not to mention, because it’s an MLM, the best way to profit is not to sell clothes but to continually find more victims.

[bronxgirl]

Feb 22, 2020 15:38:32 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

Feb 22, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -5 wildrice said:

Everyone says they are doing well when they sell MLMs. I am convinced they are all lying. That is part of their marketing strategy and consultants are trained to say they are doing awesome, but they almost never are.

Could be but I honestly don't know. I don't ask many questions. Just an occasional "how's it going?" to be polite.

Dude, she's totally lying to you. She's probably still selling because she's in so deep and trying to break even.  Pretending it's all go swimmingly is just part of the scam.

[katfco]

Feb 22, 2020 21:23:13 GMT -5 goldengirlz said:

I don’t understand the psychology of the people who continue to buy into LLR (any MLM, really, but especially LLR)— denial? Hubris? Thinking that what has happened to thousands of others won’t happen to them? It’s not like it’s hard to find this sort of information these days. And for someone with another source of income, why would you want to stake your reputation on this nonsense? Even if — best case scenario — you make a profit, you’re doing it for a super shady company that has put countless people into financial trouble. And, not to mention, because it’s an MLM, the best way to profit is not to sell clothes but to continually find more victims.

This is a really good article on the cult-like nature of many MLMs. www.huffpost.com/entry/multilevel-marketing-companies-mlms-cults-similarities_l_5d49f8c2e4b09e72973df3d3 

[cville]

Everything I've read implies that the whole team/unity/sisterhood thing is so played up in this and other MLMs. That sort of "sisters in legging love!" ethos would make me shy away even if I was inclined to try it because have strong "not a joiner" and "no new friends" tendencies, but I can understand how it can be a draw for a lot of people. And it sickens me. Because none of these "friendships" are real.

[rubytue]

Feb 22, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -5 wildrice said:

Feb 22, 2020 15:16:41 GMT -5 cjcouple said:

IDK she has an accounting degree so she probably is finding a way to make it work. I honestly don't know but she says she is doing well.

You wouldn't catch me selling any MLM. I refuse to even buy it. She never asked me. That's why we are still friends. lol

Everyone says they are doing well when they sell MLMs. I am convinced they are all lying. That is part of their marketing strategy and consultants are trained to say they are doing awesome, but they almost never are.

I so don’t get it. I have a FB friend who sold 31 for awhile. And then got out because she wasn’t making money (shocking). I posted a link to the Dream podcast awhile back, along with some commentary on MLMs. And the same lady who lost money constantly with 31 was biting back at my commentary and defending them.  Brainwashing..

[tacokick]

I’ll admit I briefly “sold” Tupperware during a fantastic promotion to get a full set of aqua cake takers/storage and to easily return some life time warranty stuff for my mom. I actually think real Tupperware is the best plastic stuff out there but there was no way I was making money if I actually tried to sell it. I spent my $75 for $300+ starter kit full of stuff I use all the time now 15 years later, got replacements for stuff my mom had from before I was born and got out. There is no way to make money with these things unless you are selling a ton every day and have a huge amount in stock all the time. Not for me or pretty much anyone!

[pierogigirl]

Feb 23, 2020 17:59:27 GMT -5 tacokick said:

I’ll admit I briefly “sold” Tupperware during a fantastic promotion to get a full set of aqua cake takers/storage and to easily return some life time warranty stuff for my mom. I actually think real Tupperware is the best plastic stuff out there but there was no way I was making money if I actually tried to sell it. I spent my $75 for $300+ starter kit full of stuff I use all the time now 15 years later, got replacements for stuff my mom had from before I was born and got out. There is no way to make money with these things unless you are selling a ton every day and have a huge amount in stock all the time. Not for me or pretty much anyone!

I'd totally buy some Tupperware right now if I liked the colors.  My square snack savers are my favorite because they hold cupcakes perfectly.  I am also still using food storage bowls that are at least 15 years old - I made sure not to microwave in them and avoided hot red sauce so they wouldn't get gross.

[VillainV]

Feb 23, 2020 17:59:27 GMT -5 tacokick said:

I’ll admit I briefly “sold” Tupperware during a fantastic promotion to get a full set of aqua cake takers/storage and to easily return some life time warranty stuff for my mom. I actually think real Tupperware is the best plastic stuff out there but there was no way I was making money if I actually tried to sell it. I spent my $75 for $300+ starter kit full of stuff I use all the time now 15 years later, got replacements for stuff my mom had from before I was born and got out. There is no way to make money with these things unless you are selling a ton every day and have a huge amount in stock all the time. Not for me or pretty much anyone!

Kind of like Pampered Chef I guess. It’s such good quality that people won’t need to buy replacements for decades. You can get some movement on new products, but most of your sales come from new customers. And there just aren’t going to be many.

[gummybear]

I will admit when a MLM is good quality and will buy sparingly. Pampered Chef is good. There are a few YL oil blends I enjoy and I love their Thieves cleaner concentrate. Theres one called Lemongrass that makes amazing balms for muscle aches and rashes. There’s this new nail sticker stuff called Color Street which has changed my life but the company also sells the exact same product at Walmart and ULTA under another name for at least half the price. Soooooo...

Anyway. Even if you sell a shitton, the only way to really make money in ANY of this is to have people down line. That’s the hard truth. And that’s the problem.

[gummybear]

Also I don’t know if I forgot or I didn’t know but I cannot BELIEVE the previous comp structure was for LLR uplines to be paid based on what their downlines bought rather than sold. And that the downlines actually listened when their uplines said the way to improve business was to keep buying more inventory. That is incredible. Off the wall and I cannot believe any sound-minded person would listen to that advice, not can I believe anyone with good character would give it.

[turnipthebeet]

Oh god this thread just reminded me that my H and I were staying at a boutique hotel downtown SLC years ago that had a wine hour. So we head down and there’s a Melaleuca convention at the convention center, and many of those ppl were staying at our hotel. It’s like we had a fresh meat sign on our heads! They all had lanyards and, well, we didn’t.

I got so many email addresses! They treated us like the most interesting people in the world! I was laughing the whole time, they were trying to get us to sell this shit that we’d never even used.

These were all 60+ year olds, and all had that wealthy yuppie vibe to them.

[bigoleworm]

Feb 23, 2020 18:47:01 GMT -5 turnipthebeet said:

Oh god this thread just reminded me that my H and I were staying at a boutique hotel downtown SLC years ago that had a wine hour. So we head down and there’s a Melaleuca convention at the convention center, and many of those ppl were staying at our hotel. It’s like we had a fresh meat sign on our heads! They all had lanyards and, well, we didn’t.

I got so many email addresses! They treated us like the most interesting people in the world! I was laughing the whole time, they were trying to get us to sell this shit that we’d never even used.

These were all 60+ year olds, and all had that wealthy yuppie vibe to them.

My fil sold melaleuca. He literally lost everything. Friends, money, his home, everything.
Dh was on the phone with him the other day and he was still pitching for us to be a part of his team. This is an intelligent man that thinks that the economy and the democrats are to blame, not his shady MLM.
It’s rather sad

[minzy]

I have an acquaintance who sells some nutrition crap, and the Facebook posts are ridiculous. I know she must be using some posting formula of 1/3 personal, 1/3 advertising, 1/3 general interest or some shit, but I just think what a fool she looks like. She really appears to drink the Koolaid. Maybe she’s desperate for cash, but you could not pay me enough to make me look like that in front of everyone I know.

[morecoffeeplease]

Feb 23, 2020 18:40:23 GMT -5 gummybear said:

I will admit when a MLM is good quality and will buy sparingly. Pampered Chef is good. There are a few YL oil blends I enjoy and I love their Thieves cleaner concentrate. Theres one called Lemongrass that makes amazing balms for muscle aches and rashes. There’s this new nail sticker stuff called Color Street which has changed my life but the company also sells the exact same product at Walmart and ULTA under another name for at least half the price. Soooooo...

Anyway. Even if you sell a shitton, the only way to really make money in ANY of this is to have people down line. That’s the hard truth. And that’s the problem.

Are the people who sell the nail things angry that they are also sold at Walmart?

[morecoffeeplease]

Lol I changed it but my phone auto corrected nail things to nail fungus.

I Know someone that got into ring bomb and i think she’s pretty high up. She hustles the shit out of it and has a ton of people under her. She will share their lives of their “parties” and they have like 2 viewers. It’s awful.

[VillainV]

Feb 23, 2020 19:46:57 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

Feb 23, 2020 18:40:23 GMT -5 gummybear said:

I will admit when a MLM is good quality and will buy sparingly. Pampered Chef is good. There are a few YL oil blends I enjoy and I love their Thieves cleaner concentrate. Theres one called Lemongrass that makes amazing balms for muscle aches and rashes. There’s this new nail sticker stuff called Color Street which has changed my life but the company also sells the exact same product at Walmart and ULTA under another name for at least half the price. Soooooo...

Anyway. Even if you sell a shitton, the only way to really make money in ANY of this is to have people down line. That’s the hard truth. And that’s the problem.

Are the people who sell the nail things angry that they are also sold at Walmart?

I think the big “advantage” to ordering them from MLM people is the much wider variety of patterns and colors that aren’t available anywhere else.

[gummybear]

Feb 23, 2020 20:22:55 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Feb 23, 2020 19:46:57 GMT -5 morecoffeeplease said:

Are the people who sell the nail things angry that they are also sold at Walmart?

I think the big “advantage” to ordering them from MLM people is the much wider variety of patterns and colors that aren’t available anywhere else.

Yes. I think some actually aren’t aware, but most tout the personal experience and wider variety as the reason to go through the MLM. I will say, I’m totally hooked and there are only a few of the retail stickers that are my style. I have considered hitting up my friend that sells them for some solid colors. Maybe that’s the master plan and getting you hooked on Walmart gateway nail stickers before you need to move on to the good stuff 😛

[wildrice]

Feb 23, 2020 20:28:55 GMT -5 gummybear said:

Feb 23, 2020 20:22:55 GMT -5 VillainV said:

I think the big “advantage” to ordering them from MLM people is the much wider variety of patterns and colors that aren’t available anywhere else.

Yes. I think some actually aren’t aware, but most tout the personal experience and wider variety as the reason to go through the MLM. I will say, I’m totally hooked and there are only a few of the retail stickers that are my style. I have considered hitting up my friend that sells them for some solid colors. Maybe that’s the master plan and getting you hooked on Walmart gateway nail stickers before you need to move on to the good stuff 😛

I think the solid colors are only $11 and you can get 2 manicures out of them. I looked up the Walmart/Ulta ones and they were around $9 so not even a huge difference. I am anti MLM as well and would never sell, but I do have to admit they are a good product and once i run out of the ones my mom gave me, I likely will buy some from a friend who sells them.

Although, i do hate that this friend is all over social media bragging about how awesome she is doing and how people should join her team. I am certain it is all lies and that in 6 months she will back off daily posts and go back to normal when she realizes she isnt making actual money. So, i do feel conflicted about buying anyway. I like the product and wouldnt mind supporting her, but is it just enabling?

[Stan]

Fuck the nail ones. They’re a continuation of the copyright infringement by fucking Sally Hansen of a small women owned business/invention.