I don't expect anyone to drop out before Super Tuesday. After that, I think we will see some fall off.
Also, I see that a few of you have decided to join me over in the land of panic. Welcome.
Sanders gets the nom: we are fucked because Trump will win.
Sanders doesn’t get the nom: we are fucked because his supporters who now smell victory will throw a temper tantrum and refuse to vote and/or poison the well and Trump will win.
I mean... nobody is even close to him in Nevada yet. I’m not completely sure how the math works out with 4% reporting, but at this point I assume I’m going to have to get out there and work for candidate Bernie.
Clarke county is reporting and 80% of Nevadans live there. Yes, the rural counties have delegates, but it’s proportionately smaller.
Post by shortcake2675 on Feb 23, 2020 0:30:58 GMT -5
My precinct had two delegates for Bernie, two for Pete and 1 for Amy. I didn’t check the numbers. Early voting had just a few votes that ended up not viable. They added them between the first and second alignment. I’m in Elko county.
This gives me a little hope, but in that election, it wasn’t the same guy who won the first three. And yes I know Bernie didn’t “win” Iowa, but he did win the popular vote there.
There’s been a ton of early voting in California and Bernie is polling well there and in Texas.
I can’t understand what Klobuchar is even doing. Say what you will about Pete but he at least has won a single primary and was competitive in another. Do we have the official NV counts yet?
I am saying this based on past stuff and am not yet up to speed on NV, so all of this may be moot:
I think, based on interviews, that this is Klobuchar’s strategy— kind of lie low and let higher profile candidates knock each other out. I have seen interviews on TRMS where she basically says this is how she has won in the past— she is steady, not flashy, but seen as a dependable choice. In these interviews, she always highlights her record of winning over R voters in the end and her tendency to play a long game and not be too reactive.
So if/when Pete drops, she’s the moderate alternative. If Warren drops, she’ll try to get voters who want a woman, etc. And she can meet or beat expectations at this point because no one expects her to place first.
She is not my first or even second choice and I’d rather she drop to narrow the field, but this is my sense of her.
I can’t understand what Klobuchar is even doing. Say what you will about Pete but he at least has won a single primary and was competitive in another. Do we have the official NV counts yet?
I am saying this based on past stuff and am not yet up to speed on NV, so all of this may be moot:
I think, based on interviews, that this is Klobuchar’s strategy— kind of lie low and let higher profile candidates knock each other out. I have seen interviews on TRMS where she basically says this is how she has won in the past— she is steady, not flashy, but seen as a dependable choice. In these interviews, she always highlights her record of winning over R voters in the end and her tendency to play a long game and not be too reactive.
So if/when Pete drops, she’s the moderate alternative. If Warren drops, she’ll try to get voters who want a woman, etc. And she can meet or beat expectations at this point because no one expects her to place first.
She is not my first or even second choice and I’d rather she drop to narrow the field, but this is my sense of her.
Sure, this may work in statewide elections, but does she have funding to play this game on a national level?
I don't expect anyone to drop out before Super Tuesday. After that, I think we will see some fall off.
Also, I see that a few of you have decided to join me over in the land of panic. Welcome.
Sanders gets the nom: we are fucked because Trump will win.
Sanders doesn’t get the nom: we are fucked because his supporters who now smell victory will throw a temper tantrum and refuse to vote and/or poison the well and Trump will win.
Geeee...I wonder why Russia is rooting for Bernie.
Post by jordancatalano4ever on Feb 23, 2020 16:50:38 GMT -5
At this point I am trying to reconcile my feelings with the fact that Warren may not rise to the top and Bernie is going to sweep it. Which makes me so sad because she is so ready, prepared, and fired up to do an awesome job. The only hope I have now is that she may be offered a VP or cabinet position where she can work her talents. I know that we’ve only had three contests so far and that doesn’t necessarily translate to who ultimately wins given historical context. But I think we’re living in a new time and what held true in the past isn’t going to hold today. I think there are just too many people who like his message and don’t care about the messenger. Most people are not in depth followers of politics and simple messages are what resonates. Exhibit: Trump.
At this point I am trying to reconcile my feelings with the fact that Warren may not rise to the top and Bernie is going to sweep it. Which makes me so sad because she is so ready, prepared, and fired up to do an awesome job. The only hope I have now is that she may be offered a VP or cabinet position where she can work her talents. I know that we’ve only had three contests so far and that doesn’t necessarily translate to who ultimately wins given historical context. But I think we’re living in a new time and what held true in the past isn’t going to hold today. I think there are just too many people who like his message and don’t care about the messenger. Most people are not in depth followers of politics and simple messages are what resonates. Exhibit: Trump.
...I have so many thoughts... your post touched a sore spot. I really want to just go off. But I'm on my phone. So I'm just going to say: NO
At this point I am trying to reconcile my feelings with the fact that Warren may not rise to the top and Bernie is going to sweep it. Which makes me so sad because she is so ready, prepared, and fired up to do an awesome job. The only hope I have now is that she may be offered a VP or cabinet position where she can work her talents. I know that we’ve only had three contests so far and that doesn’t necessarily translate to who ultimately wins given historical context. But I think we’re living in a new time and what held true in the past isn’t going to hold today. I think there are just too many people who like his message and don’t care about the messenger. Most people are not in depth followers of politics and simple messages are what resonates. Exhibit: Trump.
m I don’t see her getting VP. Also hahahaha about cabinet spot being our only hope for her. 🤣
At this point I am trying to reconcile my feelings with the fact that Warren may not rise to the top and Bernie is going to sweep it. Which makes me so sad because she is so ready, prepared, and fired up to do an awesome job. The only hope I have now is that she may be offered a VP or cabinet position where she can work her talents. I know that we’ve only had three contests so far and that doesn’t necessarily translate to who ultimately wins given historical context. But I think we’re living in a new time and what held true in the past isn’t going to hold today. I think there are just too many people who like his message and don’t care about the messenger. Most people are not in depth followers of politics and simple messages are what resonates. Exhibit: Trump.
m I don’t see her getting VP. Also hahahaha about cabinet spot being our only hope for her. 🤣
elections.wisc.edu/first-2020-election-survey/ Well only hope as far as taking a position other than maintaining her Senate seat. Which she very well choose to do unless she is offered another position. And again. I voted for her. I have voted for Democrats since I turned 18. My first vote was for Gore.
I am certain that Bernie is not going to do well in South Carolina and will probably come in 4th. I have no idea what the Super Tuesday states are going to look like. I’m not trying to stir the pot. But the numbers right now don’t sound promising since I haven’t heard much chatter about Warren leading anywhere. The only thing I am hearing in my life and through various news sources is that Bernie is continuing to maintain a projected lead In various states.
I hope I am dead wrong. My dream is to have a Warren & Castro ticket. Fuck I would campaign the fuck outta that.
m I don’t see her getting VP. Also hahahaha about cabinet spot being our only hope for her. 🤣
elections.wisc.edu/first-2020-election-survey/ Well only hope as far as taking a position other than maintaining her Senate seat. Which she very well choose to do unless she is offered another position. And again. I voted for her. I have voted for Democrats since I turned 18. My first vote was for Gore.
I am certain that Bernie is not going to do well in South Carolina and will probably come in 4th. I have no idea what the Super Tuesday states are going to look like. I’m not trying to stir the pot. But the numbers right now don’t sound promising since I haven’t heard much chatter about Warren leading anywhere. The only thing I am hearing in my life and through various news sources is that Bernie is continuing to maintain a projected lead In various states.
I hope I am dead wrong. My dream is to have a Warren & Castro ticket. Fuck I would campaign the fuck outta that.
So if you have no idea what Super Tuesday will look like then why post your prior post?!?
Edit #1: typo
Edit#2: What are your news sources that you haven’t really heard much about Warren? Also what “various” news story’s do you have that Bernie is going to lead in “various” states? Please provide links.
You don’t really post here often....if really at all...
Why the stir the pot comment, weird comment to make.
m I don’t see her getting VP. Also hahahaha about cabinet spot being our only hope for her. 🤣
elections.wisc.edu/first-2020-election-survey/ Well only hope as far as taking a position other than maintaining her Senate seat. Which she very well choose to do unless she is offered another position. And again. I voted for her. I have voted for Democrats since I turned 18. My first vote was for Gore.
I am certain that Bernie is not going to do well in South Carolina and will probably come in 4th. I have no idea what the Super Tuesday states are going to look like. I’m not trying to stir the pot. But the numbers right now don’t sound promising since I haven’t heard much chatter about Warren leading anywhere. The only thing I am hearing in my life and through various news sources is that Bernie is continuing to maintain a projected lead In various states.
I hope I am dead wrong. My dream is to have a Warren & Castro ticket. Fuck I would campaign the fuck outta that.
Re: SC, I am not a Sanders fan, but I think he’s going to do better than expected. I expect Biden will take it with Sanders close behind.
At this point I am trying to reconcile my feelings with the fact that Warren may not rise to the top and Bernie is going to sweep it. Which makes me so sad because she is so ready, prepared, and fired up to do an awesome job. The only hope I have now is that she may be offered a VP or cabinet position where she can work her talents. I know that we’ve only had three contests so far and that doesn’t necessarily translate to who ultimately wins given historical context. But I think we’re living in a new time and what held true in the past isn’t going to hold today. I think there are just too many people who like his message and don’t care about the messenger. Most people are not in depth followers of politics and simple messages are what resonates. Exhibit: Trump.
I’m just so incredibly pissed off over what a great president she’s make, and that if she were a man she’s be running away with this election already.
Post by dutchgirl678 on Feb 23, 2020 22:36:19 GMT -5
I am so pissed off with people writing off Elizabeth Warren already when we have had 3 states (2 of which were caucuses with a much lower turnout than a primary) and only 2.5% of the delegates have been doled out.
I walked 8 miles knocking on doors for Warren today, and I'm doing it three more days before our primary. I talked to a lot of undecided voters and a big handful of Berners who had no idea other people were still in the race.
So what are you doing to make sure Warren wins? Calling? Texting? Knocking Doors? Donating?
Stop with the hand wringing and get to work.
I made some calls last Saturday but I don't think I'm very good at it - so I'm going to try texting! There's a training tonight if anyone else is interested: events.elizabethwarren.com/event/99673/
So what are you doing to make sure Warren wins? Calling? Texting? Knocking Doors? Donating?
Stop with the hand wringing and get to work.
I made some calls last Saturday but I don't think I'm very good at it - so I'm going to try texting! There's a training tonight if anyone else is interested: events.elizabethwarren.com/event/99673/
Post by centralsquare on Feb 24, 2020 12:06:04 GMT -5
Texting can be a slog—and it can be super effective. I find I have the most luck when I reference the script, but also use my own voice and experience.
I had a fabulous conversation last week where I helped a women decide between candidates, and she’s all in for Warren now, based on her priorities. It was really exciting.
Texting can be a slog—and it can be super effective. I find I have the most luck when I reference the script, but also use my own voice and experience.
I had a fabulous conversation last week where I helped a women decide between candidates, and she’s all in for Warren now, based on her priorities. It was really exciting.
Question for you and others - do you find calling/texting to actually get a response from many people?
I ask because most people I know do not answer the phone for numbers that they don't recognize anymore. I certainly don't. I made calls for Kerry back in 2004 and Obama in 2008 and most people didn't answer, and I feel like it's only gotten worse with all the robocalls in the last several years. Is there current research showing that this makes a real difference?
I'm asking because I am interesting in doing something, but the idea of bugging people when I HATE being bugged this way is kind of hard to resolve.
Texting can be a slog—and it can be super effective. I find I have the most luck when I reference the script, but also use my own voice and experience.
I had a fabulous conversation last week where I helped a women decide between candidates, and she’s all in for Warren now, based on her priorities. It was really exciting.
Question for you and others - do you find calling/texting to actually get a response from many people?
I ask because most people I know do not answer the phone for numbers that they don't recognize anymore. I certainly don't. I made calls for Kerry back in 2004 and Obama in 2008 and most people didn't answer, and I feel like it's only gotten worse with all the robocalls in the last several years. Is there current research showing that this makes a real difference?
I'm asking because I am interesting in doing something, but the idea of bugging people when I HATE being bugged this way is kind of hard to resolve.
The autodialing software automatically connects you when someone picks up their phone, so you won't actually know how many calls don't go through, and you won't waste time dialing individually.
Question for you and others - do you find calling/texting to actually get a response from many people?
I ask because most people I know do not answer the phone for numbers that they don't recognize anymore. I certainly don't. I made calls for Kerry back in 2004 and Obama in 2008 and most people didn't answer, and I feel like it's only gotten worse with all the robocalls in the last several years. Is there current research showing that this makes a real difference?
I'm asking because I am interesting in doing something, but the idea of bugging people when I HATE being bugged this way is kind of hard to resolve.
The autodialing software automatically connects you when someone picks up their phone, so you won't actually know how many calls don't go through, and you won't waste time dialing individually.
Well, THAT is a huge improvement! I didn't realize that, but makes sense.
It was really demoralizing to volunteer and connect with like 3 people during the whole shift!
The autodialing software automatically connects you when someone picks up their phone, so you won't actually know how many calls don't go through, and you won't waste time dialing individually.
Well, THAT is a huge improvement! I didn't realize that, but makes sense.
It was really demoralizing to volunteer and connect with like 3 people during the whole shift!
I got a call from the Warren campaign last Saturday and I picked up because it showed up as Warren 2020 calling. lol
Post by RoxMonster on Feb 24, 2020 18:43:39 GMT -5
I have only ever done phone banking for more local campaigns where we didn't have the autodialing stuff and had to literally type in each number on our phone and call. It was definitely a slog. I think I maybe had about 3 people pick up who were actually the right person (and not a wrong number). And most people did not answer or the number was disconnected. But the autodialing would definitely be a game changer!
I love knocking doors. I think it's super effective to talk to people face-to-face, but is definitely more time consuming.
Anything helps though! I have had some friends who have loved doing the texting and say they got more responses that way than phone calling.
I'm on the organizing call for Warren now, and the best thing you can do is the most personal interaction possible - door to door, then phone, then text. Passive stuff like postcards is passe, lol.
My dad is visiting this weekend and I'm not close to a super tuesday state, unfortunately, so I'll have to do the texting and calling when I can.