Post by mommyatty on Sept 21, 2020 14:00:01 GMT -5
I would raise holy hell and be a big enough pain in the ass that they gave DD a new teacher. It doesn’t solve the issue for the other kids, but if enough people do it, the principal will get off their sorry ass and be a supervisor. If ignoring the teacher becomes harder than dealing with the teacher, the principal will deal with the teacher.
Post by mustardseed2007 on Sept 21, 2020 14:13:40 GMT -5
I agree with phdmomma,I would go to the principal just to be on record. Maybe someone can help her??? It always sucks when you get a crappy teacher but in times like these it sucks even more. What would also be helpful is if you can get a classroom facebook or whatapp chat going with either many or most of the parents in the class. WE have a slack channel for DS' class and I hope we'll soon have a whatappfor DD's class. It's immensely helpful.
I would raise holy hell and be a big enough pain in the ass that they gave DD a new teacher. It doesn’t solve the issue for the other kids, but if enough people do it, the principal will get off their sorry ass and be a supervisor. If ignoring the teacher becomes harder than dealing with the teacher, the principal will deal with the teacher.
I’m sitting here. I tried to work with a shitty, lazy teacher who ended up just using everything against DD1 and making her miserable. I’d keep going up the chain. This is no longer a case of “showing grace” or whatever. It sounds like she would be a lazy teacher in person or online, so I’d try to get her moved. And I’d make everyone miserable until I got my way.
Signed,
I tried but I didn’t push hard enough and now I’m paying tuition.
I would raise holy hell and be a big enough pain in the ass that they gave DD a new teacher. It doesn’t solve the issue for the other kids, but if enough people do it, the principal will get off their sorry ass and be a supervisor. If ignoring the teacher becomes harder than dealing with the teacher, the principal will deal with the teacher.
I’m sitting here. I tried to work with a shitty, lazy teacher who ended up just using everything against DD1 and making her miserable. I’d keep going up the chain. This is no longer a case of “showing grace” or whatever. It sounds like she would be a lazy teacher in person or online, so I’d try to get her moved. And I’d make everyone miserable until I got my way.
Signed,
I tried but I didn’t push hard enough and now I’m paying tuition.
That's really kind of what I mean, but also I don't want to push for something that might be impossible...but then again I would really really want to make it possible.
I agree with phdmomma ,I would go to the principal just to be on record. Maybe someone can help her??? It always sucks when you get a crappy teacher but in times like these it sucks even more. What would also be helpful is if you can get a classroom facebook or whatapp chat going with either many or most of the parents in the class. WE have a slack channel for DS' class and I hope we'll soon have a whatappfor DD's class. It's immensely helpful.
I am slowly finding parents from her class. The response from most is that they don't have much more insight into what's going on than I do since parents aren't supposed to be participating or near by. My sense is that some of them are more comfortable with it because they are either SAHP's or WFH with kids at home and able to see a little more. They all say that DD's logged in and engaged, and honestly, that seems to be her teacher's only concern.
k3am, I’m not sure how different are districts are in terms of size - but our superintendent will respond to individual parents. I was surprised to get a personalized response when I emailed to advocate for us going back in person.
DD’s 3rd grade teacher was not doing as much as the others and DD was bored - it was nowhere near as bad as your situation - but then she abruptly went on leave for a ‘family emergency’ for at least 6 weeks - hopefully our sub will be better.
We are sending our kids back in person, possibly next week. I’m really nervous about it, but since our school has masks and good spacing, and there haven’t been any known positive cases in the elementary school, we think it’s probably fairly low risk.
I’m worried about DS keeping his mask on. He’s a little honey badger and just does not give a shit about being in trouble. DD says she doesn’t want to wear a mask, but she’s a rule follower.
ETA- this is selfish but I’m going to miss my kids during the day when they’re back in school in person. I love seeing them for lunch or going up to cheer when they do something good or have work they’re proud of. So I’m a little sad those things won’t happen anymore.
mommyatty, wow are things going that well? From the way you were talking I thought it was going to be an entire year out. I'm nervous everytime I send my kids to school. But my daughter has been in DC since June (no cases at her school) DS has been back for 2 weeks. Nothing at the elementary, but the highschool is having issues even though they are virtual. (Sports go figure) but the elementary school teachers are happy to be back, and the kids wear their masks. Even my 2 year old. It hasn't been as bad as I thought.
xctsclrx- our percent positive numbers are hovering around 10%, which is pretty bad. But the rest of our numbers meet CDC standards for reopening. Hospitalizations are low, we have vents available, all that stuff. So while I wish our percent positives were lower, and we weren’t in a “substantial community spread” scenario, I think in balance we are okay.
mommyatty, In person school has been going pretty smoothly for the girls so far. We had our first virtual PTA meeting last week and the principal was genuinely shocked and so proud of how all the kids have been handling masks, distancing, and following all the new rules. It seems like the teachers I know say that most kids are so excited to be back in school and with their friends that they'll follow whatever rules the teacher tells them to at this point.
They're also having regular "remote day drills" where the kids have to do a whole lesson via Zoom and Google Classroom so that they're prepared and comfortable with it if we have to change at any point. The hope is that it'll be a one day turnaround if we have to go remote.
Post by mustardseed2007 on Sept 22, 2020 9:23:06 GMT -5
We have a rain day due to Beta and so the school is making this a school-wide virtual learning day. We ran up to school to grab the kid's computers which was such a life saver.
I have to say, when DS is on his school computer he knows where everything is, all his passwords are saved and when we opened his computer his google classroom was already open and he was able to go right to all his links.
DD is in kinder so it didn't go quite as easy but we made it work.
It's 9:20 and I miss F2F but I am glad we're getting to practice.
xctsclrx- our percent positive numbers are hovering around 10%, which is pretty bad. But the rest of our numbers meet CDC standards for reopening. Hospitalizations are low, we have vents available, all that stuff. So while I wish our percent positives were lower, and we weren’t in a “substantial community spread” scenario, I think in balance we are okay.
With 10% positive results, in CA, you wouldn’t be able to reopen without a waiver. Is CA not following CDC standards for reopening? 10% would put us in purple or widespread territory. We are red, and can open, but won’t.
xctsclrx - our percent positive numbers are hovering around 10%, which is pretty bad. But the rest of our numbers meet CDC standards for reopening. Hospitalizations are low, we have vents available, all that stuff. So while I wish our percent positives were lower, and we weren’t in a “substantial community spread” scenario, I think in balance we are okay.
With 10% positive results, in CA, you wouldn’t be able to reopen without a waiver. Is CA not following CDC standards for reopening? 10% would put us in purple or widespread territory. We are red, and can open, but won’t.
We're Texas so like...yeah as a state I'd say we're not following the CDC unless we decide we like what they say.
That’s great mommyatty! I’m sure they will be happy to be back.
I’m looking ahead to December and I’m thinking I will have to pull my kids out for a few reasons. DH has managed to avoid travel up until now, but he thinks it will start up again in January. All of his high frequency travel is to states that are not on our state’s approved list, which means either he moves out, or we quarantine for 14 days as a family, or I’m getting everyone COVID tests every week. Quarantining for 14 days won’t work since he travels almost every week.
On a slightly sillier note, the school is keeping windows open and having lunch outside every day. Which sounds so fun! Except it was 41° when I dropped them off yesterday. Yesterday capped out at around 55°. The kids were frozen because they can only wear school logo’d attire in class, and I don’t have enough of it yet (orders are in). But even when we have enough, we can’t do this when it’s 20°. Even with the heat cranked, it’s too cold. So I’m assuming that I’d we are t shut down by then, I’m pulling them out.
Post by librarychica on Sept 22, 2020 10:07:17 GMT -5
DD1 is getting a day off today because the system that she uses to access her asynchronous content isn’t working and, even if it was, her teacher transfer isn’t complete and FFS.
My poor dad. Between this and the Microsoft Teams debacle yesterday I think he will be extra glad to hand me my kids and their tech issues tonight and be done for a week.
Funny enough my county (deep south for reference) is being more conservative than the state guidelines which are a little more conservative than the CDC guidelines. It seems to be working. Of course labor day hit and now we are spiking again
Post by mommyatty on Sept 22, 2020 10:30:59 GMT -5
k3am- CDC says you need to be under 10% even to move to hybrid. Texas doesn’t believe in science, so we just opened all schools up. High schools have been a shit show. Elementary schools have been a mixed bag. In my county, which is higher than state averages, public schools are going back in person next week. So we shall see what happens then.
mae0111, Can they wear clothing under the uniform stuff? Like a long sleeved shirt under the uniform blouses? I am thinking back to my time as a kid at catholic school wearing a uniform that was never warm enough. And wearing long sleeved shirts under the uniform shirt, and thick black leggings instead of tights.
My two older kids went to their first day of in person school just now! They were so excited. And our superintendent was at drop off, so I got to thank her personally for making this happen. This should be our longest day without kids since March.
phdmomma - right now uniforms are a polo shirt and skort. Awesome when it’s 85°, less so when 45°. Today DD1 wore leggings under her skort, the polo, a fleece, and a winter jacket. DD2 has gym, so she wore fleece sweats, gym t-shirt, fleece jacket, and winter coat.
In mid-Oct, we switch to plaid jumpers. So I’m going to buy long underwear tops for under the blouses and fleece leggings instead of tights. They can’t wear boots which sucks, but those slip-on Merrells are pretty warm with thick socks. But it’s one thing to plan for a quick recess, and quite another to sit there for 6 hours in a 50° classroom.
I’m going to see how much it is to get fleece blankets with logos printed and donate them to the school.
So in an interesting turn of events.. I got a call from DD's teacher last night. She started it off by complaining that I'd gone to the principal and did I want to move DD from her class. It was.. well, I was really caught off guard. Because.. #1 I didn't go to the principal. #2 I don't want to move her from her class. I want this class and teacher to work. #3 Even if I had complained to the principal, I don't think that type of call is warranted.
I have a lot of feelings and none of them are good. If I didn't think it would cause issues for DD, I'd move her.
k3am - why would moving your DD cause issues? Because the teacher sounds extremely unprofessional and like the type of teacher that will take things out on a little kid.
I would keep a close eye over the next couple of weeks, and if you get a whiff of anything off, I’d be screaming to move her.
mae0111, because DD doesn't think anything is wrong. She likes her teacher, she has her neighbor in her class, and she thinks everything is fabulous. So if we switch her class, she's going to think she's being punished, and she's not.
k3am, got it. I'd still keep an eye on things. You have a feeling that something is off. Don't dismiss it.
The teacher's call was entirely inappropriate. The fact that she won't respond to emails is unprofessional. It doesn't seem like she's given you any reason to believe that she will handle anything going forward appropriately or professionally. But again, I'm pretty jaded, so take that with a grain of salt.
I can't convey enough to the teacher.. I KNOW YOU ARE DOING STUFF. I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING WITH THEM. But I'm not FINDING her work, and when I ask her about it, she plays dumb. So as far as I can see, she's NOT doing the work, but I can't follow up on it unless you give me the tools to do it.
Apparently whatever parent called the principal caused some action. They had a meeting of all the second grade teachers, and our teacher talked to DD separately after class. And suddenly DD was able to find FIVE missing assignments we've been looking for all week.
I had posted in our unofficial school district FB page a very (censored and deliberate attempt not to write anything that could be construed as a slam to the teacher) general "how do you know what your child is supposed to be working on?" post. DD's teacher isn't in this group, but I know that it's a public forum, so I do my best to not sound like a nagging harpie.
Got a response from a 5th grade teacher, so I assume they chat and I'm suddenly the big bad meany who called the principal. BUT I DIDN'T.
k3am , I don't think she would believe that you weren't the one to call the principal anyway, so that ship might have sailed. If you want her to stay in the class, then I would continue to work on figuring out what assignments are needed. If you think you are past the working relationship part, then you still might have to move her.
I think everyone has their own personal tipping point. If a teacher called me and complained about me going to the principal which is my right to do, that might be it for me, but it might not. Because in the end it would be about DD more than my feelings.
We get 1 email a week on e-learning. DD does hers through Seesaw, and I am added to the app to view it all. In addition, DD creates her own daily checklist and checks it off. That doesn't mean she doesn't try to get out of things because apparently she didn't do her written journal entry and tried to blame it on me lol.
DS has classrooms in both Google classroom and Seesaw. Google classroom is accessible on his Chromebook, and I asked the teacher to be added to the Seesaw classrooms. She has weekly and daily agendas in Google classroom. They also enter grades in Skyward. DD is too young for Skyward grades.
I think a weekly and daily agenda would be best practice, so I might ask for that. This way you can check everything off. If all the 2nd grade teachers are following the same agenda even approximately, you might be able to get it from another teacher?
k3am , waverly , I don't think that it is too much to ask for an agenda. For both kids (grades 3 and K), we were given agendas for the week. For K, they are easing in so we got an agenda for the month, because each week looks a bit different, with each day on it. Both of them do their assignments through Seesaw, and I got added to the family app part.