Post by picksthemusic on Oct 22, 2020 9:46:52 GMT -5
So it looks like my district is now offering hybrid, but it's opt-in. So my kids will probably get new teachers once it goes into effect, because the teachers were given the choice to stay home or do hybrid teaching. So it'll be a big shuffle district-wide and I'm so sad that they couldn't just agree to keep everyone remote until after the holidays. People are going to be sending their kids to school, doing holiday gatherings because they don't GAF, and kids will bring the virus to school, infecting teachers and other students, who then bring it home to their families/bubbles. OMG.
Several of those teachers plus the AP posed for pictures behind a large Trump banner at the wedding.
W T F Why in the world is this even a thing?
I'm not sure what level your area is in, but is it possible the event violated gathering size rules?
I don’t know whether the event was held in NY and NJ, and I think NJ has higher limits (but also higher cases, although still comparatively low compared to the rest of the country). I can’t exactly tell how many people were there. But yeah, the Trump banner? These people are in a damn cult. I got married during the Obama years and I didn’t have Obama plastered all over my wedding.
Post by breezy8407 on Oct 22, 2020 10:21:02 GMT -5
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
I don’t know whether the event was held in NY and NJ, and I think NJ has higher limits (but also higher cases, although still comparatively low compared to the rest of the country). I can’t exactly tell how many people were there. But yeah, the Trump banner? These people are in a damn cult. I got married during the Obama years and I didn’t have Obama plastered all over my wedding.
I honestly feel like they think he will show up. Never mind that he couldn't give two shits about his cult members unless it works for him.
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
You are not a bad teacher. This is impossible.
I told mine that if they feel like they "aren't sick enough to stay home, but not sure about it" they should *wink, wink* just stay home. I'm teaching both groups the same lesson at once or else I can't get through my already-slashed curriculum, so they are getting the same info if they are at home, and at least there they can eat, drink, be maskless, and go to the bathroom.
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
You are not a bad teacher. This is impossible.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
You are not a bad teacher. This is impossible.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
This sounds like a good way to get Covid into the school.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
This sounds like a good way to get Covid into the school.
Why? If you have any symptoms, you have to contact the school nurse. We have to temp and send in a symptom checker before going to school everyday. They take their temp before they enter. This is to prevent those people that say "I don't feel like going to school, I will just do online" making it crazy for teachers. I am sure before they implemented this folks went to the beach or mountains for a long weekend and parents just said you can do online school. We have had two positive cases in a school of over 1000 students and staff in two months which I think is pretty good since we started our city had about 11% positivity.
This sounds like a good way to get Covid into the school.
Why? If you have any symptoms, you have to contact the school nurse. We have to temp and send in a symptom checker before going to school everyday. They take their temp before they enter. This is to prevent those people that say "I don't feel like going to school, I will just do online" making it crazy for teachers. I am sure before they implemented this folks went to the beach or mountains for a long weekend and parents just said you can do online school. We have had two positive cases in a school of over 1000 students and staff in two months which I think is pretty good since we started our city had about 11% positivity.
Because you can spread it without symptoms. Because you can spread it if you just have slight symptoms. Because a fucking school nurse is not qualified to pronounce whether someone has covid or not. As is, parents are crazy and send their kids sick anyway. Now, during a pandemic, if those kids want to stay home let them stay home. Fuck.
ETA: And do you really think if your rules are that restrictive that parents are taking their kids to be tested if they're sick. No, they're not.
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
You are not a bad teacher. This is impossible.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
Its the having them split that *is* the chaos. If they can't all be in person, I'd rather them all be online. I teach all AP seniors. They can handle being at home, and in fact 90% of them have told me they'd rather just be home - after ONE day. Splitting my attention is horrible. Beyond that, the amount of mental capital I spend on technology and cleaning concerns leaves me with very little for my content. Remote, online learning is clearly a thing that works; we have had those schools in existence for quite a while now. It's not the evil it's thought to be, at least not for high school students. I'm NOT a good teacher right now. Not even close.
Why? If you have any symptoms, you have to contact the school nurse. We have to temp and send in a symptom checker before going to school everyday. They take their temp before they enter. This is to prevent those people that say "I don't feel like going to school, I will just do online" making it crazy for teachers. I am sure before they implemented this folks went to the beach or mountains for a long weekend and parents just said you can do online school. We have had two positive cases in a school of over 1000 students and staff in two months which I think is pretty good since we started our city had about 11% positivity.
Because you can spread it without symptoms. Because you can spread it if you just have slight symptoms. Because a fucking school nurse is not qualified to pronounce whether someone has covid or not. As is, parents are crazy and send their kids sick anyway. Now, during a pandemic, if those kids want to stay home let them stay home. Fuck.
ETA: And do you really think if your rules are that restrictive that parents are taking their kids to be tested if they're sick. No, they're not.
Well if you don't have symptoms, then there is no reason to stay home. If you have slight symptoms, you have to stay home and talk to the nurse who works in close contact with the health department. If you want your kid to stay home, have at it! No one is stopping you. You are just marked as absent and can't do online schooling unless approved. If you want to go to Disney during teh school year, go ahead! Just like any normal school year. It is trying to make it easier for the teachers!
I don’t know whether the event was held in NY and NJ, and I think NJ has higher limits (but also higher cases, although still comparatively low compared to the rest of the country). I can’t exactly tell how many people were there. But yeah, the Trump banner? These people are in a damn cult. I got married during the Obama years and I didn’t have Obama plastered all over my wedding.
I honestly feel like they think he will show up. Never mind that he couldn't give two shits about his cult members unless it works for him.
He did, so I’m wondering if they had their wedding in Bedminster like this couple from the same area.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
Its the having them split that *is* the chaos. If they can't all be in person, I'd rather them all be online. I teach all AP seniors. They can handle being at home, and in fact 90% of them have told me they'd rather just be home - after ONE day. Splitting my attention is horrible. Beyond that, the amount of mental capital I spend on technology and cleaning concerns leaves me with very little for my content. Remote, online learning is clearly a thing that works; we have had those schools in existence for quite a while now. It's not the evil it's thought to be, at least not for high school students. I'm NOT a good teacher right now. Not even close.
Right. I am vicarious here through H, but its the constant back and forth and unpredictability.
PDQ
He teaches math, so because of the ease of being able to cheat on tests and quizzes at home, they are having to a lot more work to accommodate the various scenarios. From the sounds of it, its not kids saying they don't feel well, its kids not liking the experience like taratru said. No lockers, no gathering, lunch is restricted, etc.
All that said, personally for his health, I would rather him not be around any students. They've had positive cases and its only matter of time before one is a student of his.
My district passed two resolutions at the most recent board meeting urging the governor to allow us to bring elementary students back into the classroom. I have seen more evidence that schools do not increase transmission even when community spread is fairly high, but it still makes me incredibly nervous, as our cases continue to rise.
breezy8407 let your H know he's not alone. Our math department is struggling as well. I'm at the point where I'm all in on kids/courses who *need* attendance be here (like my H - he teaches engineering/STEM courses and they do a lot of project work), and those who don't, not. My only in-person needs are seminars and group work, but I can't do that. I am looking at my students right now in their rows, facing forward, working silently, and I HATE IT for them.
Also, they just leave the building at lunch, take off their masks, start hugging each other, and get in cars together for lunch, so it's like none of this is going to matter in the long run.
I would say 2 weeks ago, I had 90% of my students planning to be back in for hybrid learning. I was getting a little freaked out, actually, about how I was going to fit 10-12 kids in my room each day.
Now, that number keeps dropping. As the community cases keep rising, and as the kids start to hear the restrictions, many if them would rather stay home. It's going to be a clusterfuck, though, with planning for and keeping track of who will be where at what point.
We will be teaching as we are already, through a Meet. The only difference for hybrid is they will physically be in school with their Chromebooks vs at home. No eating, limited drinking only through a straw, masks at all times, no lockers, no congregating--many of my kids feel they're doing fine at home (and actually I think so as well, content-wise), so what's the point of being uncomfortable?
Selfishly, I know I'm going to miss being at home. It's so quiet and I get so much done! I didn't realize how much my coworkers interrupt me regularly.
Our community cases have not gone down, but our district and the surrounding districts have ended online learning and expect all to report back to in person school starting Nov 2nd. My teacher friends tell me that for our ISD, 60% of online learners are failing at least one class, but they are most concerned about the high school. Easier to just mandate everyone comes back, I suppose.
Because you can spread it without symptoms. Because you can spread it if you just have slight symptoms. Because a fucking school nurse is not qualified to pronounce whether someone has covid or not. As is, parents are crazy and send their kids sick anyway. Now, during a pandemic, if those kids want to stay home let them stay home. Fuck.
ETA: And do you really think if your rules are that restrictive that parents are taking their kids to be tested if they're sick. No, they're not.
Well if you don't have symptoms, then there is no reason to stay home. If you have slight symptoms, you have to stay home and talk to the nurse who works in close contact with the health department. If you want your kid to stay home, have at it! No one is stopping you. You are just marked as absent and can't do online schooling unless approved. If you want to go to Disney during teh school year, go ahead! Just like any normal school year. It is trying to make it easier for the teachers!
We don't let people toggle in and out of online schooling either. It has to be more than 5 days of sick time and/or COVID quarantine/presumed exposure. We were finding that parents were signing kids up for out of town sports tournaments and taking the kids there and asking for online learning which would increase our exposure when the kids come back. Not to mention the burden on the teachers and tech needs to make it happen.
Post by Velar Fricative on Oct 22, 2020 16:39:31 GMT -5
So that wedding occurred on Saturday and Tuesday we got notified of our school’s first case. They didn’t specify student or teacher in the letter but the state dashboard now indicates it was a teacher. And now, we got letter #2 about another case - this one is a “potential” case. I’m surprised they sent out a notice about a potential case so now I’m wondering if it’s another teacher if they feel it’s likely enough that they sent this letter. And then my mind goes back to that wedding even though we obviously don’t know if the confirmed teacher attended or not. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
taratru That's exactly what happened to H. This is the 3rd week of hybrid. He's had a lot of students opt to online, or now the new thing is just not showing up on their assigned days and telling him they will join online. Its madness.
You are not a bad teacher. This is impossible.
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
I actually think that’s a little counter initiative. We are also a small private school and most kids are in person (7 of my 40 are remote) More than one in person kid has asked to go remote for a day (they aren’t feeling well) and it’s been relatively easy to switch them. We just have them log on with the remote advisor in the morning and give them access to the remote schedule and google classroom for the day. It’s easier than catching them up when they return.
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
My ds goes to private Catholic school in person full time. You had to opt in for medical reasons to do virtual. If you are in person and do not show up, you are counted as absent. You are not allowed to just jump online. You have to be approved by the school nurse to be able to do virtual (ie: need to quarantine). This makes sense I think to try to keep the chaos from happening.
I actually think that’s a little counter initiative. We are also a small private school and most kids are in person (7 of my 40 are remote) More than one in person kid has asked to go remote for a day (they aren’t feeling well) and it’s been relatively easy to switch them. We just have them log on with the remote advisor in the morning and give them access to the remote schedule and google classroom for the day. It’s easier than catching them up when they return.
Not a teacher, but girls go to a private school with small classes and virtual was offered. A small number are doing virtual, but everyone is equipped to go virtual overnight. So DD1 has a day she wasn't feeling like going in, but didn't want to miss class- she Zoomed in. Made it easier for all involved. Teachers just said "do I have any remote learner?" And set up the iPad so they could see. Easy peasy.
I actually think that’s a little counter initiative. We are also a small private school and most kids are in person (7 of my 40 are remote) More than one in person kid has asked to go remote for a day (they aren’t feeling well) and it’s been relatively easy to switch them. We just have them log on with the remote advisor in the morning and give them access to the remote schedule and google classroom for the day. It’s easier than catching them up when they return.
Not a teacher, but girls go to a private school with small classes and virtual was offered. A small number are doing virtual, but everyone is equipped to go virtual overnight. So DD1 has a day she wasn't feeling like going in, but didn't want to miss class- she Zoomed in. Made it easier for all involved. Teachers just said "do I have any remote learner?" And set up the iPad so they could see. Easy peasy.
It’s a bit more complicated for me since I’ve bagged the idea of zooming in my remote kids but it’s not that much work to add them and it means they get something rather than nothing so...
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
Because you can spread it without symptoms. Because you can spread it if you just have slight symptoms. Because a fucking school nurse is not qualified to pronounce whether someone has covid or not. As is, parents are crazy and send their kids sick anyway. Now, during a pandemic, if those kids want to stay home let them stay home. Fuck.
ETA: And do you really think if your rules are that restrictive that parents are taking their kids to be tested if they're sick. No, they're not.
Well if you don't have symptoms, then there is no reason to stay home.
?? I'm glad that isn't the standard at my kids' school. Contacts are a central part of gauging risk. Here, if you've been in close contact with someone who tests positive, you can't go to school regardless of symptoms.
Well if you don't have symptoms, then there is no reason to stay home.
?? I'm glad that isn't the standard at my kids' school. Contacts are a central part of gauging risk. Here, if you've been in close contact with someone who tests positive, you can't go to school regardless of symptoms.
Pixy didnt say anything about risk assessment in her post, just staying home for the hell of it. Part of our daily screening is "have you been in contact with anyone ...?" So it is not the standard at our school either.
We had our first hybrid day today. It. Was. Terrible. After getting in the groove of full remote and having some success, this is like starting all over. My seniors hands down said they would rather be home, because all the rules make it "not school". I was the worst teacher I've been in a while today. MAJOR props to those of you who've been doing it this way all year. I just want to quit.
I'm sorry, it is certainly a hard transition. Are you expected to teach live to those at home while you are in the classroom? That seems like the hardest part for most.
Thankfully, our remote students complete asynchronous work and we are not expected to do more than answer emails, post videos/assignments.
Post by dulcemariamar on Oct 23, 2020 8:01:25 GMT -5
The numbers here are skyrocketing and I am basically freaking out that we are still teaching at school.
I tried to google it but how much protection does a combo of face shield and surgical mask provide? Most teachers are just wearing a mask but I did both since the beginning. I am seeing more now wear both....
But I can’t find any info about the protection level of both shield and mask. Would anyone here know this by chance?
?? I'm glad that isn't the standard at my kids' school. Contacts are a central part of gauging risk. Here, if you've been in close contact with someone who tests positive, you can't go to school regardless of symptoms.
Pixy didnt say anything about risk assessment in her post, just staying home for the hell of it. Part of our daily screening is "have you been in contact with anyone ...?" So it is not the standard at our school either.
I didn't even say for the hell of it. I said if they felt sick. Your post is insinuating that it's up to the school nurse to make the call whether a kid who feels off gets to stay home or not. Which is fucking bonkers.
We had our first hybrid day today. It. Was. Terrible. After getting in the groove of full remote and having some success, this is like starting all over. My seniors hands down said they would rather be home, because all the rules make it "not school". I was the worst teacher I've been in a while today. MAJOR props to those of you who've been doing it this way all year. I just want to quit.
I'm sorry, it is certainly a hard transition. Are you expected to teach live to those at home while you are in the classroom? That seems like the hardest part for most.
Thankfully, our remote students complete asynchronous work and we are not expected to do more than answer emails, post videos/assignments.
There is no official guidance, but its clear that is the expectation. I thought about doing it anyway, but the thought of replanning when we eventually go back to remote gave me serious anxiety.
I'm sure like everything else teachers have been asked to do over time, I will get used to it. Not easier by any means, but ill get used to it.