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[redpenmama]

I will preface this by saying we are being more cautious than most in our area. While I'm comfortable with that, it does leave me questioning whether I'm being too cautious. We are in a state doing OK and holding steady. I am pretty firm on my decision to not attend the event described below, but I'm interested in what others would do since we are the only people not going.

Poof! Thanks for your input...can't imagine anyone who I know would see this but there are enough details that I don't want it left up for long.

Would you go? 

[smock]

Nope, I wouldn't feel safe doing that. And 20+ unmasked guests would be putting the servers at risk.

[lilac05]

No, we wouldn’t go. If someone is planning an event like this, I’d guess that they’re probably much more likely to be socializing in other areas/with other groups, too. It’s the exposure that everyone else has had that would concern me.

We have two families in our “pod.” With kids, we have 13 people. I would consider going for this scenario and addain’t one more family that we know to be super strict. The number of people would be almost the same, but the level of exposure for us and for the servers would be significantly less. Combining 10 households would be a pass for us.

[redpenmama]

Jun 27, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5 lilac05 said:

No, we wouldn’t go. If someone is planning an event like this, I’d guess that they’re probably much more likely to be socializing in other areas/with other groups, too. It’s the exposure that everyone else has had that would concern me.

I can say with certainty that they are. Plus, 4 of the families will have just returned from beach vacations in FL and AL.

[ohgillian]

I wouldn’t go to this.

[krystee]

At first I was going to say no, but then I realized my H and I have gone to an outdoor patio at a Mexican restaurant for margaritas once since outdoor dining opened, so I guess I actually would? (Although we weren’t within six feet of anyone but our server). I definitely wouldn’t bring the kids because I couldn’t trust them to distance, and I wouldn’t go if I thought everyone would be hugging and getting super close.

[krystee]

Just saw the note about four families traveling. Yeah, I’d skip it.

[lilac05]

With the additional info, my answer strengthens to definitely not.

[kershnic]

I was already a no, but with your add on about the families traveling heck no.

[lolo]

No, I would not.

[VillainV]

This is not a risk I would take for a neighborhood get together. If the event was really important to me (like a parent’s retirement party or immediate family member’s wedding) I might consider it. I guarantee you people will not stay 6 feet apart, and if they are drinking they won’t be wearing masks either.

[SusanBAnthony]

Nope.

[boiler717]

Nope. They most socializing I’d do with neighbors is a get together in a backyard with a few other couples.

[VillainV]

Jun 27, 2020 23:15:47 GMT -5 krystee said:

At first I was going to say no, but then I realized my H and I have gone to an outdoor patio at a Mexican restaurant for margaritas once since outdoor dining opened, so I guess I actually would? (Although we weren’t within six feet of anyone but our server). I definitely wouldn’t bring the kids because I couldn’t trust them to distance, and I wouldn’t go if I thought everyone would be hugging and getting super close.

Presumably the separate parties were sitting at their own tables more than 6 feet apart? That’s not the same as an event for mingling and socializing.

[Velar Fricative]

Jun 27, 2020 22:53:18 GMT -5 redpenmama said:

Jun 27, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5 lilac05 said:

No, we wouldn’t go. If someone is planning an event like this, I’d guess that they’re probably much more likely to be socializing in other areas/with other groups, too. It’s the exposure that everyone else has had that would concern me.

I can say with certainty that they are. Plus, 4 of the families will have just returned from beach vacations in FL and AL.

I was already a no but based on this, definitely a hell no. The fact that they’re not self-isolating for the requisite 14 days (even if it’s not the local law, it’s the right thing to do) and socializing after returning tells me a lot about that exposure risk and that I want no part of it.

[raangoli]

Nope. We’re probably more cautious than we need to be and more than most of our neighbors based on what we’ve noticed (block parties).

Given the added info that they have traveled back from states with rising cases I would excuse myself and enjoy a drink in my own backyard.

[dcn]

Jun 27, 2020 22:53:18 GMT -5 redpenmama said:

Jun 27, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5 lilac05 said:

No, we wouldn’t go. If someone is planning an event like this, I’d guess that they’re probably much more likely to be socializing in other areas/with other groups, too. It’s the exposure that everyone else has had that would concern me.

I can say with certainty that they are. Plus, 4 of the families will have just returned from beach vacations in FL and AL.

Omg fuck no then.

I might have gone otherwise.

[readyin07]

I’m in Florida so absolutely not. But even in a state that is better managed I don’t think I would. A small lunch with friends maybe. A friend of a friend went to brunch and now everyone of their little 4 person party has it. Assuming based on timelines that one person at their table had it and was presymptomatic. According to my friend all parties are reasonably cautious in public and wearing masks, but a few in the party had returned to work.

[waverly]

We have sat at outside patios spaces 6 feet apart.

But not with a group of 20 that would not be staying apart I don’t think. I think it’s OK to skip especially since they just got back from Florida.

[abs]

I probably would have gone under the first set of circumstances. Knowing they came back from Florida though? Lol nope. Seems like my entire FB feed is at 30a this weekend and there is no social distancing going on there.

[redpenmama]

Glad I’m not the crazy one here. I’m not opposed to patio dining/drinking (we haven’t done that yet but are open to it without the kids), but the crowd, no masks, and inevitable lack of distancing while drinking are concerning and why we are opting out.

Thanks for your replies!

[CloudBee]

I wouldn't trust those 20+ friends to keep 6ft of distance.

There are loads of articles circulating today about how roughly 2-3 wks after patio dining started in some states, there was a huge spike directly correlated to that timing.

It SUCKS not being able to spend time with friends and eat out. But I wouldn't risk a setting where masks need to be removed to eat. Add in being surrounded by people who are anxious to mingle with you, and I don't see appropriate distancing taking place.

[goldengirlz]

I think people are getting too complacent. People are talking about “being too cautious” as if this is all behind us. It’s not. According to this article, only TWO states are seeing a decline in week over week cases: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/28/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

And even the more generous map here www.covidexitstrategy.org/ has only four states that are green (and only 10 more that are yellow).

With cases increasing in most states — at the same time that people are loosening up on social distancing — I’d argue that this is the time to be MORE cautious, not less.

[sandandsea]

No. It sounds like the other 20 are not SD and would not intend to be at this event so I would opt out.

[noodleoo]

Jun 27, 2020 22:53:18 GMT -5 redpenmama said:

Jun 27, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5 lilac05 said:

No, we wouldn’t go. If someone is planning an event like this, I’d guess that they’re probably much more likely to be socializing in other areas/with other groups, too. It’s the exposure that everyone else has had that would concern me.

I can say with certainty that they are. Plus, 4 of the families will have just returned from beach vacations in FL and AL.

HELL NO. And they should really be quarantined for 14 days.

[imojoebunny]

I tried this for a neighbor's going away party, they had a drink truck, outside, and there was plenty of room to social distance, but I was one of 3 people wearing a mask, and no one social distanced. I did not drink, kept my mask on, and I left after 10 minutes. It could have worked great, if people would have stayed apart, but they didn't. I do have friends over one or two at a time, we sit about 15' apart, on my porch or deck, and if they need to use the bathroom, I have a basket of a clean hand towels, and they wear a mask. That feels reasonable to me.

[redpenmama]

goldengirlz, totally agree. I keep saying to my family that if we wouldn't have done it in April, we aren't doing it now because there are actually more cases today. Yet, we appear to be in the very small minority in our community with this mindset.

[waverly]

Our cases increased for 3 days and then stabilized again. I think it is hard to tell what the trend is based only on that data. I was alarmed, but when I saw the stabilized numbers I felt better. This is not the situation in most states where cases are astronomically rising.