“Apparently, wypipo find the prospect of covering their noses and mouths with a piece of cloth so disturbing that it triggers a reaction psychologists describe as Unseasoned Mask Affective Disorder (UMAD).
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But white people have nothing to worry about. This moment that America finds itself in has nothing to do with anger or backlash. Contrary to popular belief, Black people aren’t mad about anything. We are totally calm. That uncomfortable feeling that is causing white people to celebrate Juneteenth, remove racist icons from pancake boxes and apologize for every perceived act of discrimination is not because of our anger.
We just took off our masks.
Imagine how angry you’d be if you had to be muzzled like a dog for 400 years. Imagine if you had to wear a mask for your entire life. “
Post by steamboat185 on Jun 30, 2020 18:37:14 GMT -5
@@@https://www.wweek.com/news/state/2020/06/30/oregon-child-care-facility-reports-covid-19-outbreak-among-first-in-nation/ 20 people 12 teachers and 8 kids have tested positive at a Kindercare.
We just had someone over for a window quote, and I'm really regretting it. He was in our house for at least an hour, talking the whole time. He was masked and we were mostly at least 6 feet apart, but there were times when he was showing us stuff and was closer. He didn't really seem that conscious of social distancing. I didn't really expect it to be mostly a long sales pitch, or I wouldn't have scheduled it. Plus, the quote was much higher than I expected so I don't even think we're going to buy from him.
I'm sure it was fine but it's definitely the most prolonged close contact I've had with anyone in months. It's making me nervous thinking about it.
I don’t want to bump the old masking making thread, but... I’m making them for a local program to given masks for underserved and low income communities. They are asking for sewers to switch from adult to kids masks. I found a pattern for kid sizes that is constructed my favorite way (https://refashioninghistory.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/larsen_kids_mask_multisize_with-directions-1.pdf), but it doesn’t give lengths for ear loops (or I’m being dense and can’t find it). I’m doing 7” loops for adult masks.. can someone check their kids masks and give me some lengths to work with. The 5-8 range and 9-11.
We’ve been thinking about going to a hotel about 3 hours away this weekend and I’m very on the fence. We would use the pool, but keep our distance from everyone, get food from nearby restaurants for takeaway and spend most of our time at a local beach. Our county beaches are closing for the weekend so I’m not sure on top of going to a hotel whether it’s the right thing to do to just go to another more open county.
It'll be interesting to hear if any family/household members of the kids also get sick. I've been reading all this stuff about "little evidence of child-to-parent transmission", but I wonder how much of that "little evidence" may be driven by the fact that tests are still being rationed most places, with most people not getting tested without symptoms. Since most infected kids are asymptomatic, it seems likely that outbreaks at daycares would fly under the radar until/unless a teacher got sick enough to be tested.
We just had someone over for a window quote, and I'm really regretting it. He was in our house for at least an hour, talking the whole time. He was masked and we were mostly at least 6 feet apart, but there were times when he was showing us stuff and was closer. He didn't really seem that conscious of social distancing. I didn't really expect it to be mostly a long sales pitch, or I wouldn't have scheduled it. Plus, the quote was much higher than I expected so I don't even think we're going to buy from him.
I'm sure it was fine but it's definitely the most prolonged close contact I've had with anyone in months. It's making me nervous thinking about it.
Did the company have options for outdoor or virtual appointments? Some are doing that as an option. I just googled "replacement windows virtual appointments" and it looks like for larger nationwide companies Andersen and Pella offer virtual appointments. Plus lots of smaller more local places.
I'd been posting about it in the Covid chat threads. It was something we had previously talked about but the grocery hoarding is what sealed the deal. A few people had expressed interest in knowing how it went so here it is
Ah! I missed the original. I was intrigued but thought it had to be misplaced.
I don’t want to bump the old masking making thread, but... I’m making them for a local program to given masks for underserved and low income communities. They are asking for sewers to switch from adult to kids masks. I found a pattern for kid sizes that is constructed my favorite way (https://refashioninghistory.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/larsen_kids_mask_multisize_with-directions-1.pdf), but it doesn’t give lengths for ear loops (or I’m being dense and can’t find it). I’m doing 7” loops for adult masks.. can someone check their kids masks and give me some lengths to work with. The 5-8 range and 9-11.
Thanks!
@@@@@ I’ve been doing all my kid masks with 5.5” 1/4” elastic loops. It works on my 6 and 9 year olds. My adult masks use 7”
We just had someone over for a window quote, and I'm really regretting it. He was in our house for at least an hour, talking the whole time. He was masked and we were mostly at least 6 feet apart, but there were times when he was showing us stuff and was closer. He didn't really seem that conscious of social distancing. I didn't really expect it to be mostly a long sales pitch, or I wouldn't have scheduled it. Plus, the quote was much higher than I expected so I don't even think we're going to buy from him.
I'm sure it was fine but it's definitely the most prolonged close contact I've had with anyone in months. It's making me nervous thinking about it.
Did the company have options for outdoor or virtual appointments? Some are doing that as an option. I just googled "replacement windows virtual appointments" and it looks like for larger nationwide companies Andersen and Pella offer virtual appointments. Plus lots of smaller more local places.
I don't know - I wasn't offered one when I put in a request online for a quote. but maybe they do if you specifically ask for it? I guess I didn't think too much about the appointment ahead of time because most companies I've interacted with so far have been so good about safety precautions so I just assumed they'd be taking them. I figured he'd come over and measure stuff and that would be the majority of the appointment. I did not expect a full hour conversation.
We’ve been thinking about going to a hotel about 3 hours away this weekend and I’m very on the fence. We would use the pool, but keep our distance from everyone, get food from nearby restaurants for takeaway and spend most of our time at a local beach. Our county beaches are closing for the weekend so I’m not sure on top of going to a hotel whether it’s the right thing to do to just go to another more open county.
I wish my county would close beaches for the weekend. Between LA closing theirs and the spike of cases in Arizona (and the increased safety requirements) I would be surprised if San Diego’s community spread DOESN’T increase in the next few weeks.
We’ve been thinking about going to a hotel about 3 hours away this weekend and I’m very on the fence. We would use the pool, but keep our distance from everyone, get food from nearby restaurants for takeaway and spend most of our time at a local beach. Our county beaches are closing for the weekend so I’m not sure on top of going to a hotel whether it’s the right thing to do to just go to another more open county.
I wish my county would close beaches for the weekend. Between LA closing theirs and the spike of cases in Arizona (and the increased safety requirements) I would be surprised if San Diego’s community spread DOESN’T increase in the next few weeks.
I agree with you. I live walking distance to an LA beach that is known for huge crowds on the 4th. I’ve been super nervous about this weekend. I was relieved when they announced the closures. But, people have been taking about just going to the OC or Ventura. I think all the beaches should close for the weekend, because closing just one county simply pushes more people into the neighboring county beach.
I wish my county would close beaches for the weekend. Between LA closing theirs and the spike of cases in Arizona (and the increased safety requirements) I would be surprised if San Diego’s community spread DOESN’T increase in the next few weeks.
I agree with you. I live walking distance to an LA beach that is known for huge crowds on the 4th. I’ve been super nervous about this weekend. I was relieved when they announced the closures. But, people have been taking about just going to the OC or Ventura. I think all the beaches should close for the weekend, because closing just one county simply pushes more people into the neighboring county beach.
Yes, they basically just insured that San Diegans who are concerned about COVID-19 should stay inside their homes all weekend because we are about to be flooded with tourists from hot spots while in the midst of our own uptick in cases. 🙄
His speech was primarily geared to promoting people to wear masks, because this Red area's hospitals are overfilling and people are being sent to other hospitals in the Western (more Blue) part of the state. Eastern WA has always skewed more Red than the Western half, and they tend to need a lot more of the state's $$$ revenue and are a drain on the state overall.
I hate how masks have become so politicized, and that you can't fix stupid, apparently. The way the people in the Tri Cities are behaving is pretty much going to keep them in Phase 1 until who knows when.
Did you watch it? He wasn’t booed, he was heckled. Repeatedly. Until he finally moved his “discussion” indoors with the pre-approved press. He also wore his mask during his speech, probably due to his flub when he had his public (outdoor!) speech in Yakima last week.
ETA: I doubt we move to Phase Two until fall at the earliest, but even then I am skeptical due to the likelihood of a second wave hitting by then. If we ever even get through this first wave. 🙄 So what do we call the second one? Just a resurge? Ugh. I’m in Yakima County, not Benton or Franklin (Tri-Cities), but it is just as bad (likely worse) here.
It'll be interesting to hear if any family/household members of the kids also get sick. I've been reading all this stuff about "little evidence of child-to-parent transmission", but I wonder how much of that "little evidence" may be driven by the fact that tests are still being rationed most places, with most people not getting tested without symptoms. Since most infected kids are asymptomatic, it seems likely that outbreaks at daycares would fly under the radar until/unless a teacher got sick enough to be tested.
This is local to me. Another source says that the number includes family members, but it isn’t known who/how. Kindercare isn’t releasing any information about specifics.
@@@@@@i’m hoping more will come out in the coming days- especially as we look to putting kids back in the classroom. Public health in schools is my job and the data is woefully incomplete. It’s impossible to compare American schools to those overseas for many reasons.
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It'll be interesting to hear if any family/household members of the kids also get sick. I've been reading all this stuff about "little evidence of child-to-parent transmission", but I wonder how much of that "little evidence" may be driven by the fact that tests are still being rationed most places, with most people not getting tested without symptoms. Since most infected kids are asymptomatic, it seems likely that outbreaks at daycares would fly under the radar until/unless a teacher got sick enough to be tested.
This is local to me. Another source says that the number includes family members, but it isn’t known who/how. Kindercare isn’t releasing any information about specifics.
@@@@@@i’m hoping more will come out in the coming days- especially as we look to putting kids back in the classroom. Public health in schools is my job and the data is woefully incomplete. It’s impossible to compare American schools to those overseas for many reasons.
@@@@@ My theory (it’s a total theory!) is that some places are requiring a negative Covid test or an automatic 14 days out before return (as opposed to 72 hours fever free). I think in a lot of kids, especially young toddlers and preschoolers, CV19 is showing as a blip of a fever. Usually parents would just ride out the 24/48/72 hour rule but with being faced with “negative test or 14 days” they’ll go for a test. And that blip of a fever turns up positive, when under usual circumstances parents wouldn’t pay much attention to it, especially if it resolves in a day or two and isn’t particularly high.
12 adults is a lot though. I’m kind of annoyed Kindercare is keeping it all quiet, because from a tracing standpoint as well as a knowledge gathering and learning opportunity it would be nice for us to have the full picture.
His speech was primarily geared to promoting people to wear masks, because this Red area's hospitals are overfilling and people are being sent to other hospitals in the Western (more Blue) part of the state. Eastern WA has always skewed more Red than the Western half, and they tend to need a lot more of the state's $$$ revenue and are a drain on the state overall.
I hate how masks have become so politicized, and that you can't fix stupid, apparently. The way the people in the Tri Cities are behaving is pretty much going to keep them in Phase 1 until who knows when.
And I was checking in on a discussion and "King Inslee wasn't wearing a mask during his speech. Hypocrite." Far too many times from far too many (too local to me) people.
I'm so glad to be here and know there are like minded people out there. Plus, always being the bad guy gets really old!
I'm SO TIRED of feeling like the bad guy. I just want everyone to be safe! I don't want any of my friends to die, or their loved ones! Someone on twitter said they felt like the whole world was just gaslighting them and I get it. Frustrating does not begin to describe how I feel.
Ok, this is concerning. My kids went back to daycare *yesterday*. I want them to stay open and I really want school to open in the fall (DD1 is starting K). But between this and hearing what Fauci said on the news last night about there possibly being 100K new cases PER DAY if things don't change, I'm terrified. I really don't want to be locked down again but I feel like its coming sooner rather than later. Why do people have to be so fucking selfish and dumb?!?
I hope Kindercare is cooperating so we can at least get some good data out of this. Haven't daycares been open in a lot of states this whole time? Why haven't we seen more outbreaks in daycares? People keep telling me that the transmission from between kids and kids and adults is low, but no one can tell me why which makes me think it's bad information or wishful thinking.
On a side note, apparently someone in my neighborhood is having an 80 person wedding in their backyard in 2 weeks. <head explodes>
My BFF is a primary care physician with a private practice in Corpus Christi. She also does locums shifts pretty regularly at two of the local hospitals. For months now she's been pretty pleased with how things were going there because she wasn't seeing many Covid patients either in her practice or during her hospitalist shifts. That all changed last week. Suddenly her office and the hospitals are full of Covid, and her own medical assistant was diagnosed with it on Monday. She is drowning, and so incredibly angry at Abbot and her local government for ignoring all medical evidence and throwing the state wide open long before it was safe.
I'm so glad to be here and know there are like minded people out there.
On the flip side, I have a friend that is absolutely convinced that if she leaves her house, she'll get covid, and she'll die. And that if any of her friends/family leave their houses, they'll get covid, and they'll die. Like, she's preparing herself to mourn every friend she has, just because they occasionally go to Target or the grocery store.
On the one hand, I'm glad she's taking things seriously, but on the other, I think he's gone to the bad place. She posts at least 40 covid-related articles on Facebook every single day.
I'm so glad to be here and know there are like minded people out there.
On the flip side, I have a friend that is absolutely convinced that if she leaves her house, she'll get covid, and she'll die. And that if any of her friends/family leave their houses, they'll get covid, and they'll die. Like, she's preparing herself to mourn every friend she has, just because they occasionally go to Target or the grocery store.
On the one hand, I'm glad she's taking things seriously, but on the other, I think he's gone to the bad place. She posts at least 40 covid-related articles on Facebook every single day.
Yeah that doesn't sound good, either. I have a coworker who told me they haven't left their neighborhood much if at all, and have been getting everything delivered. He has some health issues he is dealing with though.
I wish my county would close beaches for the weekend. Between LA closing theirs and the spike of cases in Arizona (and the increased safety requirements) I would be surprised if San Diego’s community spread DOESN’T increase in the next few weeks.
I agree with you. I live walking distance to an LA beach that is known for huge crowds on the 4th. I’ve been super nervous about this weekend. I was relieved when they announced the closures. But, people have been taking about just going to the OC or Ventura. I think all the beaches should close for the weekend, because closing just one county simply pushes more people into the neighboring county beach.
I agree with you. I live walking distance to an LA beach that is known for huge crowds on the 4th. I’ve been super nervous about this weekend. I was relieved when they announced the closures. But, people have been taking about just going to the OC or Ventura. I think all the beaches should close for the weekend, because closing just one county simply pushes more people into the neighboring county beach.
Can I ask how Orange County is still not on the watch list? The hell? Also, it appears they are only closing lots at State Beaches. Many of the beaches in Orange County are either city or county run, not State Beaches. So this could simply crowd those beaches even more. I hope I am wrong, but with comments I have been seeing locally, I fear I am not.