Thursday 7/9 Covid News and Chat

[Velar Fricative]

In NYC, neighborhoods that were devastated by covid in March/April are showing extremely high numbers of positive antibody tests, which may (key word: may) confer some protection for poorer communities during a possible second wave.

www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-antibodies.html

At a clinic in Corona, a working-class neighborhood in Queens, more than 68 percent of people tested positive for antibodies to the new coronavirus. At another clinic in Jackson Heights, Queens, that number was 56 percent. But at a clinic in Cobble Hill, a mostly white and wealthy neighborhood in Brooklyn, only 13 percent of people tested positive for antibodies.



As it has swept through New York, the coronavirus has exposed stark inequalities in nearly every aspect of city life, from who has been most affected to how the health care system cared for those patients. Many lower-income neighborhoods, where Black and Latino residents make up a large part of the population, were hard hit, while many wealthy neighborhoods suffered much less.



But now, as the city braces for a possible second wave of the virus, some of those vulnerabilities may flip, with the affluent neighborhoods becoming most at risk of a surge. According to antibody test results from CityMD that were shared with The New York Times, some neighborhoods were so exposed to the virus during the peak of the epidemic in March and April that they might have some protection during a second wave.

[AndyCohen]

Jul 9, 2020 7:51:55 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

In NYC, neighborhoods that were devastated by covid in March/April are showing extremely high numbers of positive antibody tests, which may (key word: may) confer some protection for poorer communities during a possible second wave.

I really hope so! Elmhurst and everyone around there needs a break!

[kdubs923]

I'm sharing this article I saw on RI's successful response to Covid. Under even the best of circumstances, many RIers are critical of our governor, but I've been very pleased with her response to the virus.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/08/gina-raimondo-interview-rhode-island-governor-covid-353799?fbclid=IwAR3K43iiWpovmcpCLwGSLBn2CbeKOL8YcoQF8WQGPAobgGhsofpJFKUe6a8

"It is a testament to the viciousness of the virus that Rhode Island can be seen as a success story despite the deaths of nearly 1,000 of its citizens, or nearly 0.1 percent of its population. It was a uniquely vulnerable state, featuring the nation’s second-densest and ninth-oldest population, nestled between the pandemic hot spots of New York City and Boston. Rhode Island was hit early and hard by the outbreak. But now, while COVID-19 is still winning in much of America, with infections on the rise and outbreaks in states like Florida, Texas and Arizona, forcing reversals of some efforts to reopen economies, Raimondo and her public health team have beat back the pandemic in Rhode Island. It is now one of only four U.S. states rated a “low” risk level by the Covid Act Now project."

Gov. Raimondo mentions the lack of federal guidance & looking to models in South Korea, Taiwan & NZ, which focused on testing, tracing & isolation.

"You know, this entire crisis would have played out so differently with leadership and a national plan from the federal government. If the Trump administration in January had started to stockpile PPE [personal protective equipment], get serious about testing, put together a plan, we would have far fewer deaths, far fewer people out of work, far fewer sick people. Those first couple weeks of March, when we still weren’t certain how bad it would be, we were getting zero direction or guidance from the federal government."

[suzyp]

Sort of Covid related, Michael Cohen has been ordered back into custody for violating the terms of his release - he was seen eating out at restaurant with his wife in NYC. F you dude. *I* have not eaten in a restaurant since March 16 - and I am not under home confinement. WTF?

[af1212]

'Please Scream Inside Your Heart,' Japanese Amusement Park Tells Thrill-Seekers

This is cracking me up - I’m probably losing it

The Fuji-Q Highland amusement park near Tokyo has an unorthodox request for its roller coaster riders.

"Please scream inside your heart," and not out loud, the park is asking. The unusual ask is meant to reduce the risk of spreading the coronavirus.

While some may be skeptical that it's possible to quietly ride a roller coaster, a promotional video from Fuji-Q proves that it can be done.


www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/09/889394605/please-scream-inside-your-heart-japanese-amusement-park-tells-thrill-seekers

[SwimDeep]

Jul 9, 2020 16:57:43 GMT -5 af1212 said:

'Please Scream Inside Your Heart,' Japanese Amusement Park Tells Thrill-Seekers

This is cracking me up - I’m probably losing it

The Fuji-Q Highland amusement park near Tokyo has an unorthodox request for its roller coaster riders.

"Please scream inside your heart," and not out loud, the park is asking. The unusual ask is meant to reduce the risk of spreading the coronavirus.

While some may be skeptical that it's possible to quietly ride a roller coaster, a promotional video from Fuji-Q proves that it can be done.


www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/09/889394605/please-scream-inside-your-heart-japanese-amusement-park-tells-thrill-seekers

This is so funny to me. I haven't ridden a roller coaster in years, but when I did I never screamed. Well, sometimes I would make these weird squawks and shouts to try to fit in and be "normal" lol
I loved and enjoyed the thrill. Just couldn't scream. Even now, the only time I scream is to release anger, and that still takes a HUGE effort.

Anyway... personal anecdote *shrug*

[AAM2012]

Jul 9, 2020 14:23:12 GMT -5 suzyp said:

Sort of Covid related, Michael Cohen has been ordered back into custody for violating the terms of his release - he was seen eating out at restaurant with his wife in NYC. F you dude. *I* have not eaten in a restaurant since March 16 - and I am not under home confinement. WTF?

This is so funny to me...like was that burger worth it?!?

Edit: it appears it may have been more related to his book:


www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/nyregion/michael-cohen-arrested.html

[Michelle]

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I have not seen my friends since February. My dd hasn’t seen hers either. We usually order everything delivered and I am mostly working from home. No restaurant visits either.

I have covid. Husband has covid. DD testing today but no symptoms other than diarrhea.
H has the cough, had fever, head congestion, diarrhea, typical symptoms.

Mine started like bad allergies that turned into extreme fatigue and then tonsillitis. Also severe headaches. Did a virtual visit and got antibiotics for the tonsillitis and was ordered to test. Test came back positive. Night before the results I had chills and sweats. Yesterday I had chills and sweats and a fever bevtween 100.4 and 101.9 depending on when I last dosed Tylenol. Woke up drenched in sweat last night and no fever this morning.

So far it is like a bad flu. I had a cry last night (got results yesterday) because I am obese and borderline diabetic and terrified of getting worse. I know how overrun my hospital is with covid patients right now.

Hopefully I am on an upward swing of getting better today.


If you feel like your allergies are messing with you, please err on the side of caution.



This shit is super contagious and not fun, but hopefully we will avoid the hospitals.

Masks. Hand hygiene. Social distancing. I was fanatic and still got it. But I will still do it when better.

[AAM2012]

I hope you feel better soon Michelle

[abs]

Oh man. Feel better soon michelle. I’m sorry!

[ohgillian]

michelle that is super stressful. I'm so sorry. Keep us updated.

[breezy8407]

Michelle I hope you and your family are better soon. Sounds awful. And I'm sure even more stressful knowing you did everything right.

[penguingrrl]

I’m so sorry michelle! I hope you and your family feel better soon!

[picksthemusic]

Hoping you improve soon, Michelle.

[goldengirlz]

Oh wow michelle — I hope you and your family get better soon!

[Velar Fricative]

Oh my goodness michelle, I hope you and your family are on the mend as quickly as possible.

[chickadee77]

Oh, wow, Michelle, I hope it stays at bay and you feel better quickly!

[bronxgirl]

michelle, I hope you and your family feel better soon and have no lasting consequences.

[amandakisser]

Jul 9, 2020 10:54:05 GMT -5 kdubs923 said:

I'm sharing this article I saw on RI's successful response to Covid. Under even the best of circumstances, many RIers are critical of our governor, but I've been very pleased with her response to the virus.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/08/gina-raimondo-interview-rhode-island-governor-covid-353799?fbclid=IwAR3K43iiWpovmcpCLwGSLBn2CbeKOL8YcoQF8WQGPAobgGhsofpJFKUe6a8

"It is a testament to the viciousness of the virus that Rhode Island can be seen as a success story despite the deaths of nearly 1,000 of its citizens, or nearly 0.1 percent of its population. It was a uniquely vulnerable state, featuring the nation’s second-densest and ninth-oldest population, nestled between the pandemic hot spots of New York City and Boston. Rhode Island was hit early and hard by the outbreak. But now, while COVID-19 is still winning in much of America, with infections on the rise and outbreaks in states like Florida, Texas and Arizona, forcing reversals of some efforts to reopen economies, Raimondo and her public health team have beat back the pandemic in Rhode Island. It is now one of only four U.S. states rated a “low” risk level by the Covid Act Now project."

Gov. Raimondo mentions the lack of federal guidance & looking to models in South Korea, Taiwan & NZ, which focused on testing, tracing & isolation.

"You know, this entire crisis would have played out so differently with leadership and a national plan from the federal government. If the Trump administration in January had started to stockpile PPE [personal protective equipment], get serious about testing, put together a plan, we would have far fewer deaths, far fewer people out of work, far fewer sick people. Those first couple weeks of March, when we still weren’t certain how bad it would be, we were getting zero direction or guidance from the federal government."

I was coming here to see if anyone shared this. I almost feel like RI is living in a completely different country right now - I really wish this article would gain traction around the new hotbeds in hopes of smacking sense into people refusing to wear masks. I'm still taking a fairly conservative view now, not venturing out TOO much, but reading this made my anxiety SO much better.

I'm angry about the lack of federal response. I'm angry thinking about how many people are going to die unnecessarily. I'm angry thinking about the people who HAVE been taking this seriously, and how they are going to suffer even more because of the actions of many. Part of me thinks the only way people shut up and listen is when THEY die. It might not even take their loved ones dying. What a horrible mess we're in.

[goldengirlz]

This article is bleak AF but so devastatingly true:

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/10/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-no-plan/index.html

I think the worst part of this national tragedy is that it could have been, if not prevented, at least mitigated. And here we are, on a collision course with disaster and no plan to pump the brakes.

[seeyalater52]

Jul 10, 2020 10:38:11 GMT -5 amandakisser said:

Jul 9, 2020 10:54:05 GMT -5 kdubs923 said:

I'm sharing this article I saw on RI's successful response to Covid. Under even the best of circumstances, many RIers are critical of our governor, but I've been very pleased with her response to the virus.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/08/gina-raimondo-interview-rhode-island-governor-covid-353799?fbclid=IwAR3K43iiWpovmcpCLwGSLBn2CbeKOL8YcoQF8WQGPAobgGhsofpJFKUe6a8

"It is a testament to the viciousness of the virus that Rhode Island can be seen as a success story despite the deaths of nearly 1,000 of its citizens, or nearly 0.1 percent of its population. It was a uniquely vulnerable state, featuring the nation’s second-densest and ninth-oldest population, nestled between the pandemic hot spots of New York City and Boston. Rhode Island was hit early and hard by the outbreak. But now, while COVID-19 is still winning in much of America, with infections on the rise and outbreaks in states like Florida, Texas and Arizona, forcing reversals of some efforts to reopen economies, Raimondo and her public health team have beat back the pandemic in Rhode Island. It is now one of only four U.S. states rated a “low” risk level by the Covid Act Now project."

Gov. Raimondo mentions the lack of federal guidance & looking to models in South Korea, Taiwan & NZ, which focused on testing, tracing & isolation.

"You know, this entire crisis would have played out so differently with leadership and a national plan from the federal government. If the Trump administration in January had started to stockpile PPE [personal protective equipment], get serious about testing, put together a plan, we would have far fewer deaths, far fewer people out of work, far fewer sick people. Those first couple weeks of March, when we still weren’t certain how bad it would be, we were getting zero direction or guidance from the federal government."

I was coming here to see if anyone shared this. I almost feel like RI is living in a completely different country right now - I really wish this article would gain traction around the new hotbeds in hopes of smacking sense into people refusing to wear masks. I'm still taking a fairly conservative view now, not venturing out TOO much, but reading this made my anxiety SO much better.

I'm angry about the lack of federal response. I'm angry thinking about how many people are going to die unnecessarily. I'm angry thinking about the people who HAVE been taking this seriously, and how they are going to suffer even more because of the actions of many. Part of me thinks the only way people shut up and listen is when THEY die. It might not even take their loved ones dying. What a horrible mess we're in.

Fellow Rhode Islander here. Really really happy to see the progress we have made. What a difference competence leadership makes! It’s nice to feel like our small state isn’t a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

[aliciabella]

Jul 9, 2020 7:51:55 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

In NYC, neighborhoods that were devastated by covid in March/April are showing extremely high numbers of positive antibody tests, which may (key word: may) confer some protection for poorer communities during a possible second wave.

www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-antibodies.html

At a clinic in Corona, a working-class neighborhood in Queens, more than 68 percent of people tested positive for antibodies to the new coronavirus. At another clinic in Jackson Heights, Queens, that number was 56 percent. But at a clinic in Cobble Hill, a mostly white and wealthy neighborhood in Brooklyn, only 13 percent of people tested positive for antibodies.



As it has swept through New York, the coronavirus has exposed stark inequalities in nearly every aspect of city life, from who has been most affected to how the health care system cared for those patients. Many lower-income neighborhoods, where Black and Latino residents make up a large part of the population, were hard hit, while many wealthy neighborhoods suffered much less.



But now, as the city braces for a possible second wave of the virus, some of those vulnerabilities may flip, with the affluent neighborhoods becoming most at risk of a surge. According to antibody test results from CityMD that were shared with The New York Times, some neighborhoods were so exposed to the virus during the peak of the epidemic in March and April that they might have some protection during a second wave.

I just watched a biography about the Spanish Flu, which was fascinating, and most specialists could not figure why it just stopped. It killed people in record numbers, especially in Philadelphia, then it just kinda stopped. I wonder if this was part of it. People creating antibodies quickly enough that it appeared the virus was gone when in fact it didn’t go anywhere but people were no longer getting sick and dying.

I probably totally made that up, lol, but still interesting I think.

[aliciabella]

Jul 10, 2020 8:29:44 GMT -5 AAM2012 said:

I hope you feel better soon Michelle

Yes!! Feel better!

[AAM2012]

Jul 10, 2020 11:31:29 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

Jul 9, 2020 7:51:55 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

In NYC, neighborhoods that were devastated by covid in March/April are showing extremely high numbers of positive antibody tests, which may (key word: may) confer some protection for poorer communities during a possible second wave.

www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-antibodies.html

I just watched a biography about the Spanish Flu, which was fascinating, and most specialists could not figure why it just stopped. It killed people in record numbers, especially in Philadelphia, then it just kinda stopped. I wonder if this was part of it. People creating antibodies quickly enough that it appeared the virus was gone when in fact it didn’t go anywhere but people were no longer getting sick and dying.

I probably totally made that up, lol, but still interesting I think.

What channel?

[aliciabella]

Jul 10, 2020 11:42:35 GMT -5 AAM2012 said:

Jul 10, 2020 11:31:29 GMT -5 aliciabella said:

I just watched a biography about the Spanish Flu, which was fascinating, and most specialists could not figure why it just stopped. It killed people in record numbers, especially in Philadelphia, then it just kinda stopped. I wonder if this was part of it. People creating antibodies quickly enough that it appeared the virus was gone when in fact it didn’t go anywhere but people were no longer getting sick and dying.

I probably totally made that up, lol, but still interesting I think.

What channel?

I believe it was PBS, but I will check.

Also, there is a Netflix special called Covid ( I believe) which was the most informative thing I had ever seen. It was fascinating. Everyone should check it out.

[rosiebear]

Oh man, michelle, I’m sorry. I hope you and yours feel better soon!

[rubysoh0]

Jul 10, 2020 8:23:45 GMT -5 Michelle said:

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I have not seen my friends since February. My dd hasn’t seen hers either. We usually order everything delivered and I am mostly working from home. No restaurant visits either.

I have covid. Husband has covid. DD testing today but no symptoms other than diarrhea.
H has the cough, had fever, head congestion, diarrhea, typical symptoms.

Mine started like bad allergies that turned into extreme fatigue and then tonsillitis. Also severe headaches. Did a virtual visit and got antibiotics for the tonsillitis and was ordered to test. Test came back positive. Night before the results I had chills and sweats. Yesterday I had chills and sweats and a fever bevtween 100.4 and 101.9 depending on when I last dosed Tylenol. Woke up drenched in sweat last night and no fever this morning.

So far it is like a bad flu. I had a cry last night (got results yesterday) because I am obese and borderline diabetic and terrified of getting worse. I know how overrun my hospital is with covid patients right now.

Hopefully I am on an upward swing of getting better today.


If you feel like your allergies are messing with you, please err on the side of caution.



This shit is super contagious and not fun, but hopefully we will avoid the hospitals.

Masks. Hand hygiene. Social distancing. I was fanatic and still got it. But I will still do it when better.

I hope you feel better soon! It makes me angry to see so many people so flippant and not get sick, and then someone like you who does everything “right” ends up with it. Do you have any idea where you were exposed?

[was5]

Michelle, I'm so sorry. I hope you and your family recover quickly.

[underwaterrhymes]

I’m so sorry Michelle. I hope you and your family get better soon.

[somersault72]

Oh Michelle, I'm so sorry. I hope all have a swift recovery.