One of the things that makes me the angriest about this situation is that no one (read the federal government) has given a voice to science. Requirements for what to do in all these different exposure scenerios and best practices on how to reduce you risk should be national and they should be plastered everywhere. The OP shouldn't have to come here to ask, ask her pediatrician, take a course, or read 12 scientific journals to get an answer. The answer should be available and obviously*.
One of the things that makes me the angriest about this situation is that no one (read the federal government) has given a voice to science. Requirements for what to do in all these different exposure scenerios and best practices on how to reduce you risk should be national and they should be plastered everywhere. The OP shouldn't have to come here to ask, ask her pediatrician, take a course, or read 12 scientific journals to get an answer. The answer should be available and obviously*.
*Maybe it is and I'm living under a rock.
Ha well to be fair my state's department if health lists everything we have talked about. But I still question everythinf because I am an anxious mess. Especially since DH's uncle just passed away from C19 on Friday
Even with all the local and CDC guidance it is very confusing. We have a flow chart at work, and we still have to talk it through every time. Then we had an employee who was not in contact with someone but sick (probably sinuses) took a test and it was negative, so we were like do they have to quarantine if they didn't have exposure? So then we started talking do they still have symptoms? I feel like we all need a crash course in contact tracing. For example, I didn't know about the 48 hr rule, and I would assume 72 hours would be exposure.
Even with all the local and CDC guidance it is very confusing. We have a flow chart at work, and we still have to talk it through every time. Then we had an employee who was not in contact with someone but sick (probably sinuses) took a test and it was negative, so we were like do they have to quarantine if they didn't have exposure? So then we started talking do they still have symptoms? I feel like we all need a crash course in contact tracing. For example, I didn't know about the 48 hr rule, and I would assume 72 hours would be exposure.
For COVID positive people, they can end their isolation 10 days after the onset of their symptoms, OR 24 hours fever-free (non-medicated) as long as all symptoms are improving. Loss of taste and smell can last months though because it’s a nervous system thing and those cells take a lot longer to regenerate.
It used to be 72 hours fever-free but JH just updated their guidance.
So IN THEORY someone with sniffles or a cough or fatigue can return to work 24-hours fever free (unmedicated) as long as their symptoms are improving. At my workplace we are much more conservative.
One of the things that makes me the angriest about this situation is that no one (read the federal government) has given a voice to science. Requirements for what to do in all these different exposure scenerios and best practices on how to reduce you risk should be national and they should be plastered everywhere. The OP shouldn't have to come here to ask, ask her pediatrician, take a course, or read 12 scientific journals to get an answer. The answer should be available and obviously*.
*Maybe it is and I'm living under a rock.
At least in 2 cities where I live the health department has this information. It includes when it was last updated since information does change. You can also call 311 where I live and they will walk you through exactly what OP asked. You can also find it on the cdc website. But yes if you don’t have a phone or internet it would be more difficult to find this info on your own/speak with some in the health department.
Obviously overall there are many things that could be improved. Just giving this info for anyone who made need it, as the cdc and health departments do have info about exposure and talking with a medical professional about any confusion can also be helpful.
I know the schools are saying you can’t have any symptoms. It gets out of hand here with people coming in sick, so I would prefer to say no symptoms at least for now in the workplace.
Last fall a really bad cold went around the entire place and 1 person ended up hospitalized, all because 1 person couldn’t stay home for a couple of days. We all have sick time and it wasn’t a busy time of the year. We’ve all gone through daycare illnesses so I get you can’t be out the entire winter, but there are just those stubborn people with too much of a work ethic that don’t think about getting others sick.
Post by purplepenguin7 on Aug 6, 2020 16:52:33 GMT -5
karinothing, I'm sorry you are dealing with this, and sorry for DH's uncle. CV19 is a mindfuck.
Can I ask a related question? My family (me, H and under 2 year old child) had to take a last minute trip out of state for a family emergency. We have been quarantining per state rules. I was thinking about getting tested towards the end of our 14 days, even though I have no (or mild) symptoms. Is this something I should do (tests are widely available in my state), and if so when is the best time do it? thanks!
Our local health department has deflected everything to the state.
The county next to ours has done a much better job in communication. Albeit a bit late in the game.
I’m sure they are both very hard at work with contact tracing. It’s just very clear to see the difference between the communication of the 2 counties and also their focus. One primarily just posts testing sites while the other one is much more robust.
One of the things that makes me the angriest about this situation is that no one (read the federal government) has given a voice to science. Requirements for what to do in all these different exposure scenerios and best practices on how to reduce you risk should be national and they should be plastered everywhere. The OP shouldn't have to come here to ask, ask her pediatrician, take a course, or read 12 scientific journals to get an answer. The answer should be available and obviously*.
*Maybe it is and I'm living under a rock.
Ha well to be fair my state's department if health lists everything we have talked about. But I still question everythinf because I am an anxious mess. Especially since DH's uncle just passed away from C19 on Friday
I'm sorry for your loss and I understand why you asked.
Lurker here in a similar boat so just tjrowing out what we're doing.
Sitting at home right now on day 7 of our 14 day quarantine. One of the teachers at my 5 yo son's daycare tested positive. We werent given all of the whys but was out for 10 days and there last Thursday for 20 minutes, 10 of which in my sons room, masked. Based on daycare telling us he had direct exposure, though masked and after talking to our pedi, we are quarantining. My husband hadn't been exposed and we're lucky enough to have a motorhome thats parked in our backyard so he is there, staying far away from us so we can quarantine and he can still go to work (he and his dad own an automotive shop) without worryong about riaking exposing others.
Lurker here in a similar boat so just tjrowing out what we're doing.
Sitting at home right now on day 7 of our 14 day quarantine. One of the teachers at my 5 yo son's daycare tested positive. We werent given all of the whys but was out for 10 days and there last Thursday for 20 minutes, 10 of which in my sons room, masked. Based on daycare telling us he had direct exposure, though masked and after talking to our pedi, we are quarantining. My husband hadn't been exposed and we're lucky enough to have a motorhome thats parked in our backyard so he is there, staying far away from us so we can quarantine and he can still go to work (he and his dad own an automotive shop) without worryong about riaking exposing others.
I would think this is a low risk exposure.
Yes, low risk but still risk. For us, daycare is vlosed for two weeks over this so quarantining wasnt that much extra effort and well worth it to know if my kiddo did happen to get it, we wouldnt be passing it on to anyone else.
Yes, low risk but still risk. For us, daycare is vlosed for two weeks over this so quarantining wasnt that much extra effort and well worth it to know if my kiddo did happen to get it, we wouldnt be passing it on to anyone else.
I know it gets to splitting hairs, but the cdc is considering exposure 15 minutes of contact that is less than 6 ft.
Yes, i have read that as well. Realistically, the chances of him getting it are very low. But I also know they werent standing there with a timer. We also dont know if that teacher was next to him the whole time, on the other side of the room, etc. The only clear facts I had to go on was the teacher was positive and had been in contact, the teachers wear masks but the kiddos don't so it was a judgement call. Im in California and we've had pretty high numbers so for us, it wasn't worth risking potentially spreading to others when we knew he had been in the viscinity of someone who is positive and we had the ability to quarantine.
Post by karinothing on Aug 7, 2020 11:39:46 GMT -5
The test was negative. Still quarentined until next week. After that he technically only has one week left at school but it seems pointless to send him. Good thing i just paid today
I'm just chiming in to say I'm so sorry, this is so stressful. My 17 year old was exposed around July 4th by his best friend and waiting for the 14 days to be up was the worst. His test results came back long after his quarantine was up so every day was, how do you feel? You ok? How's your throat? Let me take your temp. I found our local health department to be very helpful regarding when to get tested, when to end quarantine (i.e. do you count the day of exposure, do you start counting the next day, is it through day 14 or on day 14....a 17 year old nickle and dimed it to death) and they were able to clearly answer the questions. Hang in there.
Post by carrotsmakemefat on Aug 8, 2020 9:03:30 GMT -5
Sorry to say, I’d do the 10 day quarantine (assuming no symptoms in that time).
I had to do that recently and it sucked - my good friend was around me the 4th and I found out on the 9th she was COVID positive. 🤨 had I known I would have stayed in 100% from the 5th on. So I finished out my 10 days to be safe. Thankfully no one in my home got it! We were 98% outside the whole time on the 4th.
So if someone is not symptomatic and doesn’t become symptomatic until 72 hours after you interacted with them, it’s unlikely you would be exposed, even if they were clearly positive three days later?
Yes. This isn’t to say there is NO risk, but it’s very unlikely that transmission occurred. If she became symptomatic on Monday, and they last had contact on Friday, then they are at very low risk and don’t need to quarantine.
This is per the Johns Hopkins contact tracing course. It’s free on Coursera for anyone who wants to take a look!