Harry and Meghan interview live posting

[cville]

Mar 7, 2021 23:20:47 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Mar 7, 2021 22:34:14 GMT -5 cville said:

I wasn't shocked at all. But it is jarring to hear that they didn't just think it or say it to each other, but that they said it TO Harry (and Meghan). There's something about the image of these people sitting among all that uptight, fancy furniture while spewing trash right out of mouths that is an extra whoa.

Shocking, jarring, whoa or whatever adjective you want to use...that’s how racism works. It’s not like things are just said behind people’s back, things are said directly to people.

I’m not trying to pick on you, but you did quote me. I have regular reminders that white people don’t get how racism works.

I see what you're saying. I wasn't trying to communicate that I was shocked that people say racist things directly to people, but it definitely reads that way.

[goldengirlz]

Mar 7, 2021 23:02:55 GMT -5 @mrsajl said:

The BRF is imperialistic, racist, misogynistic trash. You're not going to change my mind on that. Team Harry and Meghan all the way.

I never understood the obsession with them.

[keweenawlove]

Wasn't one of Kate's big "things" supposed to be increased mental health awareness?

[basilosaurus]

Harry's support of her when suicidal slightly endears me to him. You might need a microscope to find it amongst not forgetting his nazi uniform, but having been suicidal and dealing with crises when my spouse was deployed that kind of support meant the world to Megan. She certainly wasn't getting it from anyone else.

[madringal]

Mar 8, 2021 6:48:55 GMT -5 keweenawlove said:

Wasn't one of Kate's big "things" supposed to be increased mental health awareness?

Yes! It has me fuming with rage!!

[mbcdefg]

Mar 8, 2021 6:48:55 GMT -5 keweenawlove said:

Wasn't one of Kate's big "things" supposed to be increased mental health awareness?

Kate and William are patrons of Heads Together, a mental health charity. So it’s up there with Melania’s cyber bullying campaign.

Harry was a patron at one point (idk if this one was taken away) and I believe Meghan was added to it after their marriage.

[tripleshot]

Mar 7, 2021 22:55:36 GMT -5 muffin0 said:

So umm, where can I rewatch?

CBS.com

[af1212]

Mar 8, 2021 8:05:35 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Mar 8, 2021 6:48:55 GMT -5 keweenawlove said:

Wasn't one of Kate's big "things" supposed to be increased mental health awareness?

Kate and William are patrons of Heads Together, a mental health charity. So it’s up there with Melania’s cyber bullying campaign.

Harry was a patron at one point (idk if this one was taken away) and I believe Meghan was added to it after their marriage.

All of their patronages were taken away.

[jamaicam]

I am just amazed at how much people loved the Royal Family for years. Anyone who knows history knows they are a lot of imperialistic, selfish racists.

My main confusion is that Meghan married into this family. She has always come across as an intelligent lady so I am amazed that she didnt run away screaming the day she met Harry.

[msmerymac]

When Meghan and Harry's relationship first went public I didn't know much about her (and still haven't seen any of her acting credits). But she was in her mid-30s, had her own career and was financially comfortable on her own, was used to dealing with media appearances, had developed a brand, and seemed different than Kate in that way. Kate, to this day, comes across as reserved, but trying her best, with the media. Kate and William met in college, so their entire adult lives have been intertwined. No shade meant to Kate, but Meghan was her own person when she came into the royal family, which I mistakenly took to mean she had her eyes wide open and could handle it on her own. I'm FLOORED there wasn't any "training" for her role the way they basically tutored Kate prior to her marriage, brushing up on royal history and protocol (they show in the Crown that Diana made mistakes in the protocol, like how to address certain people or the order in which people should be greeted). Meghan is American, she doesn't know this shit! Yes, Kate has to prepare for being Queen Consort, but if you want Meghan to be a senior member of the royal family and a full time working royal, you have to set her up for success.

That they could take someone like that and chew her up and spit her out anyway says a lot about the monarchy, and none of it is good.

[eddy]

Oprah tweeted out this AM that Harry wanted to confirm the skin color conversation was not between he and his grandparents. So that means it was probably with Charles or William.

I find it so interesting how he went to lengths to protect the Queen. He clearly is very fond of her and wants to make it clear she is not running the show right now. He mentioned in the James Cordon interview and this one several times that he is in contact with her. Which to me says he is BIG MAD at his dad and wants others to know that.

[5kcandlesinthewind]

Such depraivty - imagine watching your wife/mother go through everything Diana went through, and then enabling it all over again. I cannot imagine how betrayed Harry felt by his family, but bless him for listening to Meghan and getting her and Archie the fuck out of there, instead of brushing it off.

[redheadbaker]

Mar 8, 2021 8:23:16 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

I am just amazed at how much people loved the Royal Family for years. Anyone who knows history knows they are a lot of imperialistic, selfish racists.

My main confusion is that Meghan married into this family. She has always come across as an intelligent lady so I am amazed that she didnt run away screaming the day she met Harry.

This is rubbing me the wrong way in ways I can't really describe.

I love my husband, he's incredibly supportive of me. His mother and step-father are manipulative, gaslighting pieces of crap. Is someone not intelligent because they marry someone who comes from a crappy family? 

[womet]

Mar 8, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -5 eddy said:

Oprah tweeted out this AM that Harry wanted to confirm the skin color conversation was not between he and his grandparents. So that means it was probably with Charles or William.

I find it so interesting how he went to lengths to protect the Queen. He clearly is very fond of her and wants to make it clear she is not running the show right now. He mentioned in the James Cordon interview and this one several times that he is in contact with her. Which to me says he is BIG MAD at his dad and wants others to know that.

I just looked at Oprah's tweets, and I don't see anything from today. Was this sent from another account or through another social media platform? Thanks!

[pinkplasticdoll]

Mar 8, 2021 9:15:21 GMT -5 womet said:

Mar 8, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -5 eddy said:

Oprah tweeted out this AM that Harry wanted to confirm the skin color conversation was not between he and his grandparents. So that means it was probably with Charles or William.

I find it so interesting how he went to lengths to protect the Queen. He clearly is very fond of her and wants to make it clear she is not running the show right now. He mentioned in the James Cordon interview and this one several times that he is in contact with her. Which to me says he is BIG MAD at his dad and wants others to know that.

I just looked at Oprah's tweets, and I don't see anything from today. Was this sent from another account or through another social media platform? Thanks!

[eddy]

Mar 8, 2021 9:15:21 GMT -5 womet said:

Mar 8, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -5 eddy said:

Oprah tweeted out this AM that Harry wanted to confirm the skin color conversation was not between he and his grandparents. So that means it was probably with Charles or William.

I find it so interesting how he went to lengths to protect the Queen. He clearly is very fond of her and wants to make it clear she is not running the show right now. He mentioned in the James Cordon interview and this one several times that he is in contact with her. Which to me says he is BIG MAD at his dad and wants others to know that.

I just looked at Oprah's tweets, and I don't see anything from today. Was this sent from another account or through another social media platform? Thanks!

Must have been another account. Perhaps CBS since there was follow up this AM.



www.celebitchy.com/704686/oprah_adds_to_the_blind_item_about_which_royal_spoke_about_archies_skin_color/

[Jalapeñomel]

Mar 8, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Mar 8, 2021 8:23:16 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

I am just amazed at how much people loved the Royal Family for years. Anyone who knows history knows they are a lot of imperialistic, selfish racists.

My main confusion is that Meghan married into this family. She has always come across as an intelligent lady so I am amazed that she didnt run away screaming the day she met Harry.

This is rubbing me the wrong way in ways I can't really describe.

I love my husband, he's incredibly supportive of me. His mother and step-father are manipulative, gaslighting pieces of crap. Is someone not intelligent because they marry someone who comes from a crappy family? 

I thought she was referring to the fact that he wore a Nazi uniform as a costume. 

[dontlook]

Mar 8, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Mar 8, 2021 8:23:16 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

I am just amazed at how much people loved the Royal Family for years. Anyone who knows history knows they are a lot of imperialistic, selfish racists.

My main confusion is that Meghan married into this family. She has always come across as an intelligent lady so I am amazed that she didnt run away screaming the day she met Harry.

This is rubbing me the wrong way in ways I can't really describe.

I love my husband, he's incredibly supportive of me. His mother and step-father are manipulative, gaslighting pieces of crap. Is someone not intelligent because they marry someone who comes from a crappy family? 

I’m guessing you went into the marriage with eye wide open. Meghan seemed and still seems so blindsided by how things went down. There was only one way for this to go. The whole institution wasn’t going to change for her. It’s like people who think the US was post-racial because we had a black president. The system is the system and it will do whatever it needs to do to keep going.

*im not excusing the system at all in case anyone thinks that is what I’m saying above.

[womet]

Thanks, pinkplasticdoll! I looked at CBS but didn't think to look at tweets by O Magazine.

[dontlook]

Mar 8, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -5 eddy said:

Oprah tweeted out this AM that Harry wanted to confirm the skin color conversation was not between he and his grandparents. So that means it was probably with Charles or William.

I find it so interesting how he went to lengths to protect the Queen. He clearly is very fond of her and wants to make it clear she is not running the show right now. He mentioned in the James Cordon interview and this one several times that he is in contact with her. Which to me says he is BIG MAD at his dad and wants others to know that.

I’m not surprised he is protecting his grandma. It sounds like his dad is the gatekeeper, the person he is supposed to bring his issues to. His dad didn’t protect his mother and wasn’t going to protect his son, DIL, and grandson. I’m sure it’s harder to excuse this behavior when it’s your parent. Like I get the whole firm/business thing but it’s his freaking dad.

[mbcdefg]

Mar 8, 2021 9:21:57 GMT -5 dontlook said:

Mar 8, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

This is rubbing me the wrong way in ways I can't really describe.

I love my husband, he's incredibly supportive of me. His mother and step-father are manipulative, gaslighting pieces of crap. Is someone not intelligent because they marry someone who comes from a crappy family? 

I’m guessing you went into the marriage with eye wide open. Meghan seemed and still seems so blindsided by how things went down. There was only one way for this to go. The whole institution wasn’t going to change for her. It’s like people who think the US was post-racial because we had a black president. The system is the system and it will do whatever it needs to do to keep going.

*im not excusing the system at all in case anyone thinks that is what I’m saying above.

They’re also people who put on a show for the public, so I think it’s entirely possible that Meghan had a certain impression of the family when she first met them and then things changed once she became an official family member.

William and Kate strike me as especially big phonies. And it doesn’t seem like they really hung out with Harry and Meghan as friends before their marriage. I can buy the idea that Meghan was blindsided by how they didn’t do anything at all to help her.

[sakoro]

Mar 8, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Mar 8, 2021 8:23:16 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

I am just amazed at how much people loved the Royal Family for years. Anyone who knows history knows they are a lot of imperialistic, selfish racists.

My main confusion is that Meghan married into this family. She has always come across as an intelligent lady so I am amazed that she didnt run away screaming the day she met Harry.

This is rubbing me the wrong way in ways I can't really describe.

I love my husband, he's incredibly supportive of me. His mother and step-father are manipulative, gaslighting pieces of crap. Is someone not intelligent because they marry someone who comes from a crappy family? 

However, your husband’s family (I’m assuming) aren’t part of an institution that is part of a government. According to my viewing of The Crown, you can’t just have normal family relationships with your grandmother/ uncle/ father/ brother/ sister/ brother in law, because they are also assigned roles by the state due to the constitutional understanding. Elizabeth as a sister thought her sister Margaret should marry Peter Townsend but Elizabeth the monarch had to forbid it, because he was divorced. I didn’t really understand this distinction until watching The Crown.

I’m surprised she didn’t watch the Diana Panorama interview before getting engaged to Harry. That would have sent me running for the hills. If they treated a white, blond, aristocratic woman that badly, how much worse would it be for a woman of color?

[raangoli]

I think she was blindsided because they told her one thing, they welcomed her. But then when shit got real, they didn't protect her like they said they would. So are we to fault her because she didn't see their true colors (no pun intended)? As an actress she likely learned to not believe everything you read, people will write things for the sake of clicks/to sell magazines.

It has been 20 something years since Diana passed, is she wrong to think that maybe the Royal Family had maybe taken some steps to not repeat mistakes of the past?

I think she owned her part in this when she said she had been so vocal when it came to women's rights, but then she was silenced.

[eddy]

She also said at the end her biggest regret was trusting them when they said they would protect her.

[dontlook]

Mar 8, 2021 9:33:03 GMT -5 raangoli said:

I think she was blindsided because they told her one thing, they welcomed her. But then when shit got real, they didn't protect her like they said they would. So are we to fault her because she didn't see their true colors (no pun intended)? As an actress she likely learned to not believe everything you read, people will write things for the sake of clicks/to sell magazines.

It has been 20 something years since Diana passed, is she wrong to think that maybe the Royal Family had maybe taken some steps to not repeat mistakes of the past?

I think she owned her part in this when she said she had been so vocal when it came to women's rights, but then she was silenced.

I don’t blame her so much as I’m scratching my head that she believed them at all. Sure, an actress learns not to believe everything you read/hear and she isn’t British and didn’t grow up with that level of media on her face but black people know you will be black where ever you go. Black people will face a level of scrutiny that others don’t. I think she leaned into her privilege and let love blind her to the realities of life. I can see how they fell into a “love will conquer all” trope. And he admitted he didnt realize how bad it is for people of color until he lived it with her.

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STOP 👏🏼 BLAMING 👏🏼 MEGHAN 👏🏼 FOR 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼ABUSE 👏🏼 SHE 👏🏼 HAS 👏🏼 ENDURED 👏🏼 FROM 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRF 👏🏼 AND 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRITISH 👏🏼 MEDIA!

STOP IT!

[raangoli]

Mar 8, 2021 9:46:58 GMT -5 dontlook said:

Mar 8, 2021 9:33:03 GMT -5 raangoli said:

I think she was blindsided because they told her one thing, they welcomed her. But then when shit got real, they didn't protect her like they said they would. So are we to fault her because she didn't see their true colors (no pun intended)? As an actress she likely learned to not believe everything you read, people will write things for the sake of clicks/to sell magazines.

It has been 20 something years since Diana passed, is she wrong to think that maybe the Royal Family had maybe taken some steps to not repeat mistakes of the past?

I think she owned her part in this when she said she had been so vocal when it came to women's rights, but then she was silenced.

I don’t blame her so much as I’m scratching my head that she believed them at all. Sure, an actress learns not to believe everything you read/hear and she isn’t British and didn’t grow up with that level of media on her face but black people know you will be black where ever you go. Black people will face a level of scrutiny that others don’t. I think she leaned into her privilege and let love blind her to the realities of life. I can see how they fell into a “love will conquer all” trope. And he admitted he didnt realize how bad it is for people of color until he lived it with her.

Absolutely - and I do think she sees the error and naivety that she had going into this. 

[jamaicam]

Mar 8, 2021 9:59:25 GMT -5 @mrsajl said:

STOP 👏🏼 BLAMING 👏🏼 MEGHAN 👏🏼 FOR 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼ABUSE 👏🏼 SHE 👏🏼 HAS 👏🏼 ENDURED 👏🏼 FROM 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRF 👏🏼 AND 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRITISH 👏🏼 MEDIA!

STOP IT!

I am not blaming her and I'm sorry if it comes across like that.

It is more of a 'wow these people must have put up a really good act to her' thought. And also a 'Damn, she must really really really love Harry' with a side of 'harry must have really grown as an individual since his Nazi costume days'.

[Deleted]

Mar 8, 2021 10:22:58 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

Mar 8, 2021 9:59:25 GMT -5 @mrsajl said:

STOP 👏🏼 BLAMING 👏🏼 MEGHAN 👏🏼 FOR 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼ABUSE 👏🏼 SHE 👏🏼 HAS 👏🏼 ENDURED 👏🏼 FROM 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRF 👏🏼 AND 👏🏼 THE 👏🏼 BRITISH 👏🏼 MEDIA!

STOP IT!

I am not blaming her and I'm sorry if it comes across like that.

It is more of a 'wow these people must have put up a really good act to her' thought. And also a 'Damn, she must really really really love Harry' with a side of 'harry must have really grown as an individual since his Nazi costume days'.

I hear you and my comment wasn't directed at you, specifically. The BRF did put on a really good act for her. They are malignant narcissists (*brandishes psychology degree from Google U.*) She seems very good-hearted and unassuming. 

On a very small scale (meaning not with a family that is known by the entire world and in the public eye), my MIL turned on me 7 years into my marriage with DH. She had done the same thing about 4 years previously to DH's brother and his wife but since she had NEVER treated me with anything other than love and kindness (which I realized later was actually "love bombing."), I had no reason to suspect that she would turn on us the way she did on her other son and his wife. They moved out of state to get away from her narcissism.

She told DH that I was manipulative, controlling, a shrew, a freeloader, and wasn't pulling my weight with the family because I asked him to also help out at home with household duties and the children. According to her, his only job was to bring in the income and I was supposed to take care of everything else. She told him "it's not too late to get out of this if you want to." She said this to him at our daughter's dance recital, which she'd travel to town to attend. And you know what the worst part was? We had all planned to go to dinner afterwards with my parents and WE DID! I sat two seats down from the woman who was trying to remove me from her family with my parents in attendance. It's in every way a fucked up situation. It took me YEARS to recover. 

Maybe I feel more acutely connected to Meghan because of what I went through. You don't know what it's like until you've been through it. Meghan could have had all the prep in the world, but until she walked through that fire, she had no idea just how painfully it would burn her.

[mbcdefg]

Mar 8, 2021 10:06:11 GMT -5 raangoli said:

Mar 8, 2021 9:46:58 GMT -5 dontlook said:

I don’t blame her so much as I’m scratching my head that she believed them at all. Sure, an actress learns not to believe everything you read/hear and she isn’t British and didn’t grow up with that level of media on her face but black people know you will be black where ever you go. Black people will face a level of scrutiny that others don’t. I think she leaned into her privilege and let love blind her to the realities of life. I can see how they fell into a “love will conquer all” trope. And he admitted he didnt realize how bad it is for people of color until he lived it with her.

Absolutely - and I do think she sees the error and naivety that she had going into this. 

Additionally, there’s no way she could ever come out and say “Well of course I didn’t believe them when they said they’d protect me” or “I knew I couldn’t trust them from the start” because then the public response would be “She went into the family with a huge chip on her shoulder so no wonder they didn’t all get along.”

This was a no-win situation for Meghan. It makes me sad to know what she considered for her life at at least one point.