Yes I understand all of this big-level stuff. I guess I was wondering more of what kinds of problems this creates for one person doing their job.
Not specific to this incident, but my DH’s job is routinely impacted by situations like this.
He’s a construction superintendent that manages tall towers - high rise condos and offices, mostly. Often the finishes in these buildings come from overseas. Tile from Italy, cabinets from various places in Europe, etc. The material he needs is ordered many months in advance of when his trades will be installing. If something like this happens and his materials are delayed, his entire schedule gets shifted. DH will build in some fluff time but not much. He often has to shift the entire schedule around to make a date promised to the client. For example, normally he would put in tile then cabinets. Sometimes he has to do cabinets then tile (sort of. This is my simple way of explaining things). There’s a full downstream effect for the entire job site and often hundreds of trades, who are scheduled to work on his job, then move on to another pretty quickly. Their schedules shift, which impacts another building, etc. etc.
And every single one of those trades wants to personally be like, "see, that's not gonna work for me though" and oh my god my head hurts just thinking about it.
Not specific to this incident, but my DH’s job is routinely impacted by situations like this.
He’s a construction superintendent that manages tall towers - high rise condos and offices, mostly. Often the finishes in these buildings come from overseas. Tile from Italy, cabinets from various places in Europe, etc. The material he needs is ordered many months in advance of when his trades will be installing. If something like this happens and his materials are delayed, his entire schedule gets shifted. DH will build in some fluff time but not much. He often has to shift the entire schedule around to make a date promised to the client. For example, normally he would put in tile then cabinets. Sometimes he has to do cabinets then tile (sort of. This is my simple way of explaining things). There’s a full downstream effect for the entire job site and often hundreds of trades, who are scheduled to work on his job, then move on to another pretty quickly. Their schedules shift, which impacts another building, etc. etc.
And every single one of those trades wants to personally be like, "see, that's not gonna work for me though" and oh my god my head hurts just thinking about it.
Yep. Thankfully DH enjoys this kind of puzzle and figuring things out. Obviously he would rather things move along efficiently and without problems for everyone, but that’s pretty unrealistic with construction. And then things like this happen and the owners/clients of the building say, “not my problem”. Fun times.
This cargo ship got stuck and flipped over on its side. Fortunately, they were able to move it out of the channel before that happened so it's not blocking anything.
Now it's being cut up into pieces and removed. Look at all the cars that shifted to the bottom area. It had around 4500 cars on it.
We got our first Mini Cooper shipped from UK and I remember following the ship on a map through the Panama Canal. I can't imagine if we'd lost it due to something like this.
Omg. When we were moving back to the US from overseas all of our stuff got lost for two months and no one could tell us where it was. My MIL decided this was a good time to tell me a story about a family they knew who had their shipping container with all their possessions fall overboard at some point during an overseas move. I was like... do not even put that out into the universe when all of my earthly possessions are somewhere on a cargo ship in the Atlantic.
They ended up finding our stuff sitting in a warehouse, not at the bottom of the ocean, thank god, but I have now added “having my shipping container fall off a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean” to the list of things I never knew I needed to worry about if we ever move overseas again.
For about 6 months my XH and I lived in a house on the C&D canal and sitting out on the dock when those ships went by was SO cool.
Also, this has caused We Didn't Start The Fire to get stuck in my head, so thanks for that Ever Given.
When I lived in Illinois we would do a lot of boating on the Illinois river. It is the main river floating into the Mississippi so there ares lots of barges traveling it. WHen we would get stuck at the locks waiting for the barges to come thru, it was almost eery as those huge ships with all those containers passed by.
We got our first Mini Cooper shipped from UK and I remember following the ship on a map through the Panama Canal. I can't imagine if we'd lost it due to something like this.
Omg. When we were moving back to the US from overseas all of our stuff got lost for two months and no one could tell us where it was. My MIL decided this was a good time to tell me a story about a family they knew who had their shipping container with all their possessions fall overboard at some point during an overseas move. I was like... do not even put that out into the universe when all of my earthly possessions are somewhere on a cargo ship in the Atlantic.
They ended up finding our stuff sitting in a warehouse, not at the bottom of the ocean, thank god, but I have now added “having my shipping container fall off a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean” to the list of things I never knew I needed to worry about if we ever move overseas again.
That actually happened to a friend of mine (shipping container of all their stuff falling into the ocean). I only knew her after this event & she’s really philosophical about it now, but I 💯 would have lost my mind.
We got our first Mini Cooper shipped from UK and I remember following the ship on a map through the Panama Canal. I can't imagine if we'd lost it due to something like this.
Omg. When we were moving back to the US from overseas all of our stuff got lost for two months and no one could tell us where it was. My MIL decided this was a good time to tell me a story about a family they knew who had their shipping container with all their possessions fall overboard at some point during an overseas move. I was like... do not even put that out into the universe when all of my earthly possessions are somewhere on a cargo ship in the Atlantic.
They ended up finding our stuff sitting in a warehouse, not at the bottom of the ocean, thank god, but I have now added “having my shipping container fall off a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean” to the list of things I never knew I needed to worry about if we ever move overseas again.
On this fascinating topic I just did some quick research and found this video about a shipping container at the bottom of the ocean:
It looks as though between 500-2000 containers are lost annually. That’s a lot. They are super hazardous for navigation for sailboats and ships and obviously have impacts on marine life as well.
We got our first Mini Cooper shipped from UK and I remember following the ship on a map through the Panama Canal. I can't imagine if we'd lost it due to something like this.
Omg. When we were moving back to the US from overseas all of our stuff got lost for two months and no one could tell us where it was. My MIL decided this was a good time to tell me a story about a family they knew who had their shipping container with all their possessions fall overboard at some point during an overseas move. I was like... do not even put that out into the universe when all of my earthly possessions are somewhere on a cargo ship in the Atlantic.
They ended up finding our stuff sitting in a warehouse, not at the bottom of the ocean, thank god, but I have now added “having my shipping container fall off a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean” to the list of things I never knew I needed to worry about if we ever move overseas again.
DH preordered a pinball machine almost a year ago and the initial shipment DID fall off a container ship into the ocean!
Omg. When we were moving back to the US from overseas all of our stuff got lost for two months and no one could tell us where it was. My MIL decided this was a good time to tell me a story about a family they knew who had their shipping container with all their possessions fall overboard at some point during an overseas move. I was like... do not even put that out into the universe when all of my earthly possessions are somewhere on a cargo ship in the Atlantic.
They ended up finding our stuff sitting in a warehouse, not at the bottom of the ocean, thank god, but I have now added “having my shipping container fall off a cargo ship in the middle of the ocean” to the list of things I never knew I needed to worry about if we ever move overseas again.
On this fascinating topic I just did some quick research and found this video about a shipping container at the bottom of the ocean:
It looks as though between 500-2000 containers are lost annually. That’s a lot. They are super hazardous for navigation for sailboats and ships and obviously have impacts on marine life as well.
how do they do that whole video and not tell us what was in the container? am I the only one who reeeeeeally now wants to know? even though it's probably boring as hell. a whole container of plastic washers or something.
Post by mysteriouswife on Mar 25, 2021 17:17:32 GMT -5
I’m on my phone so my grammar isn’t always perfect.
Ground shipments rely on cargo shipments. Most of the time cargo is planned months (sometimes years out). Trucks are scheduled just as far out. They know X container will be at XYZ port within a window. As the time nears the schedules are more locked and drivers will be assigned. Trucks are assigned various jobs based on point A to point B. If they are moving a cntr. to B they could pick up a misc. load at B and take it to C. This makes the driver unavailable a few days later when the shipment arrives. They could be required to do B to C skipping A.
Due to the backlog in Egypt this shifted a lot of deliveries. Now the drivers/trucks are moving land freight scheduled weeks ago. Cargo will be sitting until a driver is free to be dispatched. Ports are already backlogged due to Covid. Workers being sick or states requiring closure being the main reason.
My in-laws have a condo on the Atlantic coast of FL. A couple years ago a shit ton of coffee, boxed wine, caprisuns and some other things washed up on shore.
It was INSANE.
I know the used some of the coffee, because it was all still vacuum sealed.
This has nothing to do with the jam, but this is an awesome time lapse of a cargo ship journey. It's got some beautiful night photography, lightning storms, cargo loading and unloading via cranes, and more. It's relaxing and interesting.
My in-laws have a condo on the Atlantic coast of FL. A couple years ago a shit ton of coffee, boxed wine, caprisuns and some other things washed up on shore.
It was INSANE.
I know the used some of the coffee, because it was all still vacuum sealed.
I would go ham on free flotsam Caprisuns! Boxed wine, too.
My in-laws have a condo on the Atlantic coast of FL. A couple years ago a shit ton of coffee, boxed wine, caprisuns and some other things washed up on shore.
It was INSANE.
I know the used some of the coffee, because it was all still vacuum sealed.
I would go ham on free flotsam Caprisuns! Boxed wine, too.
LOL I’m pretty sure they did. They at least tasted the wine.
This has nothing to do with the jam, but this is an awesome time lapse of a cargo ship journey. It's got some beautiful night photography, lightning storms, cargo loading and unloading via cranes, and more. It's relaxing and interesting.
MH's job is a disaster because of this, also. His work includes selling/shipping petroleum-based products and first COVID meant that manufacturing was really delayed, then the Texas ice storm hit and refineries were shut down, and now this shipping delay. He said he's about ready to start a refinery in our basement just to get something moving!
MH's job is a disaster because of this, also. His work includes selling/shipping petroleum-based products and first COVID meant that manufacturing was really delayed, then the Texas ice storm hit and refineries were shut down, and now this shipping delay. He said he's about ready to start a refinery in our basement just to get something moving!
I have coworkers on the brink of strokes from the stress shipping delays are causing. People just assume the ice melted and a snap of a wand everything is caught up. One or two days causes 5+ days of delay. It’s a mess.
MH's job is a disaster because of this, also. His work includes selling/shipping petroleum-based products and first COVID meant that manufacturing was really delayed, then the Texas ice storm hit and refineries were shut down, and now this shipping delay. He said he's about ready to start a refinery in our basement just to get something moving!
I have coworkers on the brink of strokes from the stress shipping delays are causing. People just assume the ice melted and a snap of a wand everything is caught up. One or two days causes 5+ days of delay. It’s a mess.
I can’t imagine the stress! And until it’s released, there’s no way to plan forward. Will it be there another 3 hours, 3 days, or a week or more. The unknown is sometimes the worst part of everything.
Post by basilosaurus on Mar 27, 2021 1:52:07 GMT -5
A hot Friday night in my teen years was going down to the port and watching the cargo ships come and go. It's not the biggest or busiest port in the country but it's among the top. They anchor out beyond the reef while waiting their slot. It's very precisely scheduled. Spouses job is literally in logistics so I hear about this stuff often. Too often. And before him my grandfather and dad would regularly take delivery of yachts that looked like toys on deck. They had to be in the boat as it was lifted and offloaded. Pretty fascinating operation.
Yeah, dedicated pilots for canals and complicated waterways and busy harbors are a fairly common thing. We have them here in the chesapeake. Qualifying for the position is crazy complicated.