I wanted to share an update to the “teen can’t see his dad now that he is in person schooling” saga. Ex decided to come to my house twice last week on what would have been his days and did picnics with him for meals and then either took a walk around the neighborhood or did a hike. The walk they took was up to the high school and Ds was able to point stuff out through the gates (huge campus, all classroom open to the outside so they could walk around and actually see stuff). Ds said his dad was realizing things while they chatted that he’s told him, but clearly he was distracted at home. Like when ds was telling him about the golf team, ex said, “Wait? You made varsity as a freshman?” I was sitting next to ds when he told his dad that on the phone the night we found out. So I guess the silver lining is that Ds was starting to feel pushed aside at his dad’s house between his little sister and prepping for the arrival of a baby, and thus set up gives him some uninterrupted dad time.
Also, they’ve been back a week and there is already an outbreak with a sports team. It’s an indoor, high contact team, and there is a ton of crossover between this team and a club team of the same sport. The school requires masks at practices and games; the club team does not. My friend, whose son is on both, said their family and one other family are the only who wear masks at the club events. We have a pretty good idea of where the outbreak started based on which kids got it first and timing. It used to be the case that high school athletes couldn’t play club during their high school season, but because Covid they are trying to cram it all in. If the old rule stood, this may have been different. The entire high school program of this sport has been shut down indefinitely.
I have to assume club sports are a major driver of infection right now. Another weekend of my social media friends posting sports pictures. Not a mask in sight. Kids hanging all over each other. Tons of traveling for tournaments. It is like the pandemic is completely over.
I am glad that there is a silver lining in the change in visiting formerlyak, but I can't help but feel sad for your DS for being pushed aside. I hope he know it isn't him and he is worthy of attention and love.
This AM on the way to daycare BB was talking about the time her teacher called me bc she was sick and she got to come home early. So I am wondering if I should expect a call today. She isn't sick. She just gets the Monday blues about being away from us and back at school. But when she is at home she cries that she misses her friends. Kids man.
My girls go back to school four days a week in-person, starting tomorrow. Mondays are still asynchronous. They are both *so* looking forward to it.
We'll see how it goes -- I've gotten used to our much more casual mornings, and historically we are kind of hit-or-miss on getting DD2 to the bus stop on time (by 7:20). With that only happening two days a week right now, those days feel special and we've done better.
It's very good timing in multiple ways, though, because we have painters coming in for a big re-painting project starting next week. Now I can just hole up in my basement office with the dog and the girls will be gone most of the time while the painters are here, and I'll only have to figure out lunches, etc. for all of us one day a week.
eddy I totally agree. The particular club I referenced, I have many social media friends with kids in it. Every time I see pictures, I notice the lack of masks. And it’s not just the active players - no one on the bench or in the stands has one either. When I talked with my friend (one of the two families who wears the mask in the club) she said it was shocking how much all the families involved seem to think the pandemic is over.
We see it at Little League as well. The rules we got specifically state that everyone - kids, coaches and family in the stands - needs to wear a mask from the time they get out of their car to the time they get back in their car. Our team is really good about it. Everyone wears their masks. We have noticed the other two teams we’ve play the players and coaches wear masks, but the family in the stands do not. Our coach is a friend of ours and he picked people he knew would comply and people he felt more likely to comply. For example, we have several parents who are teachers and one who works at the port. All are used to wearing masks all day for work. I’m so glad we are on this team.
And we are in LA, so not exactly a county that’s been loosey goosey with Covid precautions.
I’m a bit nervous about summer camps. Little Ds is doing soccer camp, which is outdoors and says they will comply with local requirements. He also has a week of science camp whic includes some indoors, but their Covid precautions are like school and many of their counselors are credentialed teachers. That one doesn’t worry me.
formerlyak, we are also in SoCal and saw not a mask in sight at DD's soccer tryouts. It was at least outside and we were able to spread out from the other families, though most families were grouped together chatting the whole time. I spent the whole time hoping that the adults were at least fully vaccinated.
formerlyak I am glad they got to spend some time together, hopefully the 1:1 time will help them both.
My kids are starting (outdoor) sports. Soccer seems to be the most strict, masks for all at all times. Spectators limited. The others are only requiring the players and coaches to wear masks.
We got a birthday invitation this weekend. Bowling. We know all the kids going and they are either in their class or in their before school care "pod". I want DS to be able to go so bad. Some days I just want to throw my hands in the air and just forget everything we have been doing like everyone else seems to be doing.
formerlyak I am glad they got to spend some time together, hopefully the 1:1 time will help them both.
My kids are starting (outdoor) sports. Soccer seems to be the most strict, masks for all at all times. Spectators limited. The others are only requiring the players and coaches to wear masks.
DD is starting soccer next weekend and ours seems quite strict too. Everyone has to be masked at all times. We'll see what happens in practice vs. written rules.
formerlyak I am glad they got to spend some time together, hopefully the 1:1 time will help them both.
My kids are starting (outdoor) sports. Soccer seems to be the most strict, masks for all at all times. Spectators limited. The others are only requiring the players and coaches to wear masks.
DD is starting soccer next weekend and ours seems quite strict too. Everyone has to be masked at all times. We'll see what happens in practice vs. written rules.
There wasn't a mask mandate in the fall, and it really varied depending on who we were playing. I remember Burnsville distancing and wearing masks on the sidelines, and their spectators all wore them. As a spectator, the good thing about soccer is you can distance yourself because the fields are huge.
This past weekend we were at a park nearby and there was a HS (I think JV) baseball game. It looked like they wore their masks in the dugout and when batting, but not in the outfield? We were trying to figure it out.
I'm really not enjoying this ramp up out of stricter measures as vaccination rates come up. Locally our case rates aren't great, so I'm not like feeling super gung ho about taking my kids places. But other people seem to have decided that since they're vaccinated, and the adults they know are vaccinated - we can just do all the things again. Like, 100% of kids on the playground used to be masked. Not anymore. People are throwing birthday parties again, etc. And so now we're back to having to pick and choose what we're comfortable with instead of everybody (in our social circle anyway) being on the same page about not gathering, wearing masks, etc.
I'm really not enjoying this ramp up out of stricter measures as vaccination rates come up. Locally our case rates aren't great, so I'm not like feeling super gung ho about taking my kids places. But other people seem to have decided that since they're vaccinated, and the adults they know are vaccinated - we can just do all the things again. Like, 100% of kids on the playground used to be masked. Not anymore. People are throwing birthday parties again, etc. And so now we're back to having to pick and choose what we're comfortable with instead of everybody (in our social circle anyway) being on the same page about not gathering, wearing masks, etc.
It stinks.
I'm shocked at the birthday party invitations I'm receiving where there's no reference to masks, distancing, etc.
I'm lucky that my daughter understands why we say no, but damn, people, there's still a pandemic going on here!
I'm really not enjoying this ramp up out of stricter measures as vaccination rates come up. Locally our case rates aren't great, so I'm not like feeling super gung ho about taking my kids places. But other people seem to have decided that since they're vaccinated, and the adults they know are vaccinated - we can just do all the things again. Like, 100% of kids on the playground used to be masked. Not anymore. People are throwing birthday parties again, etc. And so now we're back to having to pick and choose what we're comfortable with instead of everybody (in our social circle anyway) being on the same page about not gathering, wearing masks, etc.
It stinks.
I'm shocked at the birthday party invitations I'm receiving where there's no reference to masks, distancing, etc.
I'm lucky that my daughter understands why we say no, but damn, people, there's still a pandemic going on here!
It's hard because I think I am more cautious in my person than I need to be. Like, H and I are now fully vaccinated (as of...about an hour ago) and his parents are fully vaccinated, but when they stopped by yesterday they didn't come inside. Could they have? yes...I guess? But we didn 'task them in. I dunno. so I wonder if I'm just being too cautious.
But the kids aren't vaccinated, and even if they're low risk since they're so young with no underlying conditions....it's still hard to be ok with it after a full year of being so careful, but I know we're definitely not at "eating indoors" yet by a long shot.
I did carpool with a (vaccinated) friend for a virtual race yesterday, and then we ate brunch together (outdoor seating) so that was all way more than I've done in ages. Being in somebody else's car was weird!
Post by breezy8407 on Apr 19, 2021 10:55:39 GMT -5
The NYT morning email discussed how humans are terrible about calculating risk. The example was how we accept car accident deaths as part of life, even though you are more likely to die in a car crash than get covid once vaccinated.
I admit I am struggling with this, too. H has been fully vaccinated for weeks and said some people are planning to go to a brewery this Friday. We both were hesitant and I said, are you going to sit outdoors? We were both still hesitant in our discussion even though statistically he is safe to have a beer indoors with fellow vaccinated coworkers.
I'm really not enjoying this ramp up out of stricter measures as vaccination rates come up. Locally our case rates aren't great, so I'm not like feeling super gung ho about taking my kids places. But other people seem to have decided that since they're vaccinated, and the adults they know are vaccinated - we can just do all the things again. Like, 100% of kids on the playground used to be masked. Not anymore. People are throwing birthday parties again, etc. And so now we're back to having to pick and choose what we're comfortable with instead of everybody (in our social circle anyway) being on the same page about not gathering, wearing masks, etc.
It stinks.
I'm shocked at the birthday party invitations I'm receiving where there's no reference to masks, distancing, etc.
I'm lucky that my daughter understands why we say no, but damn, people, there's still a pandemic going on here!
I'm really struggling today with this. My fear is them finding out about the party and being mad at us that we said no/didn't tell them about it. They are also telling us about friends at school having sleepovers and have been asking us why they can't. Uggh.
The NYT morning email discussed how humans are terrible about calculating risk. The example was how we accept car accident deaths as part of life, even though you are more likely to die in a car crash than get covid once vaccinated.
I admit I am struggling with this, too. H has been fully vaccinated for weeks and said some people are planning to go to a new local brewery this Friday. We both were hesitant and I said, are you going to sit outdoors? We were both still hesitant in our discussion even though statistically he is safe to have a beer indoors with fellow vaccinated coworkers.
This has been hard for us too. We have both been fully vaccinated for a few weeks and are still struggling to figure out what is reasonable for vaccinated people to do. I have a lot of trouble being rational about risks to the baby. If he were an older kiddo I might feel differently. But at this point his age range won’t be eligible for a vaccine until probably sometime around this time next year and we can’t continue to stay fully isolated until then for our own health and mental health (and just practically with work, needing daycare etc.)
We decided that my wife will return to orange theory this week. Probably the hardest calculation we have done this whole time and I feel worried about it but also very worried about their physical and mental health without this outlet. Other alternatives have not worked out and I think it’s time. I hate this stupid pandemic.
Yeah I agree, it's been hard figuring out what to do with the kids since DH and I are now vaccinated. DD is in poms, and only about half are wearing a mask. But it end in 10 days, so I am just trying to have her wear the mask and wait out the 10 days.
Cub scouts was small groups entirely masked, but we do have a small group camp out, and I don't know who will wear masks and who won't. Mostly, they have been good throughout the pandemic, but you don't know until you are there, and then once you are there you are kind of stuck.
DS is doing outdoor soccer, but it sounds like it will be masked.
Post by Velar Fricative on Apr 19, 2021 11:55:16 GMT -5
So far I’ve felt surprisingly clear about the risks we take until the kids can be vaccinated. No iffiness so far when faced with a decision to make. DD1 (2nd grader) has not been invited to classmate birthday parties yet but she knows that’s still a no-no for now because I just don’t know if an attendee will have some crazy hoaxer grandpa there or something, and I’m not about to ask strangers their vaccination status. DD2 (Pre-K3) has surprisingly gotten invites to classmate parties but she’s 3 and doesn’t give a shit yet, and she sees those kids 5 days a week anyway. They have plenty of cousins so they’ll be happy with immediate family parties (thankfully all adults are almost done with the doses/waiting period). We may end up being the first family to host a family party in June - DD2 turns 4 and we will have it at a park. With only fully vaccinated adults and the kids outside running around, I’m not concerned but will be prepared to cancel if things change.
We did get an invite to the annual April event honoring DH’s deceased grandparents a few hours away with the gigantic extended family (FIL is one of 10 siblings). We were pretty shocked it’s happening but we did not hesitate to say no - I’m just not ready to be around 50+ people, even if at least partially outdoors. And despite them being family, we aren’t close enough to ask for vaccination status either.
So basically, we are up for outdoor activities with close family and friends who we know are vaccinated (unless they can’t be for legit reasons), summer camp, organizational activities with reasonable safety protocols, driving-distance vacations, and that’s basically it. Everything else can wait.
We’re just continuing to mask. Sport practices, play dates, even if they’re outside = mask. Even vaccinated adults with kids around, only outside = mask. It’s just not that hard to wear a mask!
Today I probably did my riskiest thing yet, swam in an indoor pool. But there were only two other swimmers there, part of the time, and I am more than six weeks post J&J. Still not taking my kids in to swim any time soon, beg as they may.
The NYT morning email discussed how humans are terrible about calculating risk. The example was how we accept car accident deaths as part of life, even though you are more likely to die in a car crash than get covid once vaccinated.
I admit I am struggling with this, too. H has been fully vaccinated for weeks and said some people are planning to go to a new local brewery this Friday. We both were hesitant and I said, are you going to sit outdoors? We were both still hesitant in our discussion even though statistically he is safe to have a beer indoors with fellow vaccinated coworkers.
OT and I don't want to threadjack.... There's a new brewery??
Post by karinothing on Apr 19, 2021 12:38:50 GMT -5
Both kids have had coughs at night (and when they first wake up). I am 99% sure this is allergy relate and any other year I would not care, but all the screeners they have ask about coughs and I don't want to lie and I don't want them to be barred from school and sports for 10 days. So they are going to the dr today. But now I feel dumb because they been running around the house all day with no issue (and also haven't been outside at all).
Both kids have had coughs at night (and when they first wake up). I am 99% sure this is allergy relate and any other year I would not care, but all the screeners they have ask about coughs and I don't want to lie and I don't want them to be barred from school and sports for 10 days. So they are going to the dr today. But now I feel dumb because they been running around the house all day with no issue (and also haven't been outside at all).
Covid times makes me paranoid
This is my life right now, too! Went to UC yesterday and all tests came back negative. She could have gone back to school today but I kept her home JIC. Chatted with her pedi and she thinks it’s a resurgence of her asthma (started as an allergy flare). FML. She’s been symptom free for 3 years!
Post by madDawg228 on Apr 19, 2021 12:59:12 GMT -5
DS (9m) had his first projectile vomiting episode last night. It lasted for about an hour, and he slept well afterward. I was cautious breastfeeding him this morning, short times feeding followed by breaks to see if he would get sick again. He's back to sleeping now, but that was scary as a FTP. I'm not sure what caused it, no fever or anything else. I called a 24/hr nurse line, and followed their advice. COVID restrictions and our over-zealous cleaning have kept him from getting sick so far, so I'm wondering what/how it happened.
He has his 9m Wellness appt tomorrow, so I'm waiting to hear back from his Dr if it's still okay to keep the appointment.
Both kids have had coughs at night (and when they first wake up). I am 99% sure this is allergy relate and any other year I would not care, but all the screeners they have ask about coughs and I don't want to lie and I don't want them to be barred from school and sports for 10 days. So they are going to the dr today. But now I feel dumb because they been running around the house all day with no issue (and also haven't been outside at all).
Covid times makes me paranoid
Ugh it sucks! My son also has been coughing/clearing his throat a lot the past week so I bought him some Claritin kids then forgot to give it to him this morning 🤦♀️
This time of year messes with my head as I myself also become more wheezy and congested. Then the kids start getting stuffed up and coughing. And like you said I KNOW it’s the pollen but still, there’s that tiny chance...
I'm really not enjoying this ramp up out of stricter measures as vaccination rates come up. Locally our case rates aren't great, so I'm not like feeling super gung ho about taking my kids places. But other people seem to have decided that since they're vaccinated, and the adults they know are vaccinated - we can just do all the things again. Like, 100% of kids on the playground used to be masked. Not anymore. People are throwing birthday parties again, etc. And so now we're back to having to pick and choose what we're comfortable with instead of everybody (in our social circle anyway) being on the same page about not gathering, wearing masks, etc.
It stinks.
I'm shocked at the birthday party invitations I'm receiving where there's no reference to masks, distancing, etc.
I'm lucky that my daughter understands why we say no, but damn, people, there's still a pandemic going on here!
Bears, that's so interesting that you bring up birthday parties w/o ref to distancing, masks, etc. My kid is turning 10 in a week and we're hosting his 4 besties for outdoor play for 2 hours (Ninja course, Nerf, laser tag), with masks, and party favors/cake "to go" at the end. I can't imagine doing it any other way. I specifically mentioned those things in the invite. We've done this type of gathering once before this past fall, so I know it works and the parents feel comfortable having their kids attend.
The NYT morning email discussed how humans are terrible about calculating risk. The example was how we accept car accident deaths as part of life, even though you are more likely to die in a car crash than get covid once vaccinated.
I admit I am struggling with this, too. H has been fully vaccinated for weeks and said some people are planning to go to a new local brewery this Friday. We both were hesitant and I said, are you going to sit outdoors? We were both still hesitant in our discussion even though statistically he is safe to have a beer indoors with fellow vaccinated coworkers.
OT and I don't want to threadjack.... There's a new brewery??
I've seen a few surprisingly! One in Roseville called High Pines, Chanhassen Brewing Co, and the most unlikely, Snarky Loon in Jenkins. I think I saw one in Glencoe recently, too.
Surly might be re-opening after saying they were going to close indefinitely.
Post by breezy8407 on Apr 19, 2021 14:17:36 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I am happy my kids are being included, but I got another birthday party invite today. Also bowling. We've been very clear with them, so I am sure we could talk to them about why its not a good idea, but it still breaks my heart to disappoint them.
Our neighbor told me yesterday that their (adult) daughter that lives with them tested positive. I guess there was an outbreak at her work. But OF COURSE our DD talked to her DD (the granddaughter of the owners, daughter of the COVID positive adult) over the fence, unmasked for like 15 minutes. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow since they talked so I am hoping it's a non-issue. But damnit, this is what happens when I let my guard down.
And of course I woke up this morning with congestion. I want to assume it was all the housework, sanding/sawing and gardening I did over the weekend but I can't be sure.
How long do we have to quarantine if last contact with them was the 6th?
Both kids have had coughs at night (and when they first wake up). I am 99% sure this is allergy relate and any other year I would not care, but all the screeners they have ask about coughs and I don't want to lie and I don't want them to be barred from school and sports for 10 days. So they are going to the dr today. But now I feel dumb because they been running around the house all day with no issue (and also haven't been outside at all).
Covid times makes me paranoid
This is my life right now, too! Went to UC yesterday and all tests came back negative. She could have gone back to school today but I kept her home JIC. Chatted with her pedi and she thinks it’s a resurgence of her asthma (started as an allergy flare). FML. She’s been symptom free for 3 years!
Our neighbor told me yesterday that their (adult) daughter that lives with them tested positive. I guess there was an outbreak at her work. But OF COURSE our DD talked to her DD (the granddaughter of the owners, daughter of the COVID positive adult) over the fence, unmasked for like 15 minutes. It will be 2 weeks tomorrow since they talked so I am hoping it's a non-issue. But damnit, this is what happens when I let me guard down.
And of course I woke up this morning with congestion. I want to assume it was all the housework, sanding/sawing and gardening I did over the weekend but I can't be sure.
How long do we have to quarantine if last contact with them was the 6th?
It was outside and nearly two weeks ago? I would not be concerned in the slightest.