I think it’s a bizarre kind of privilege to announce that you don’t bathe yourself and expect people to still think highly of you and want to be around you.
This reminds me of that meme/viral post where people listed things that are considered trashy or low class when done by certain groups of people, versus trendy or cool or whatever when done by other groups of people (white people with middle to upper class earnings). Examples include speaking two languages, hard drugs, getting arrested, scamming the government, skipping meals, selling weed, working on a farm.
This is totally going to end up being 8 pages of everyone sharing their bathing rituals and falling over themselves to say that they don't judge anyone else's.
Yup. Lol!
I honestly don't care about the bathing habits of others unless they really stink.
I do think there's a lot of unfair cultural judgement that arises when bathing habits come up from: "they grew up poor so of course they stink" to "what privilege it is to say you don't bathe" both in the same thread.
I think it’s a bizarre kind of privilege to announce that you don’t bathe yourself and expect people to still think highly of you and want to be around you.
This reminds me of that meme/viral post where people listed things that are considered trashy or low class when done by certain groups of people, versus trendy or cool or whatever when done by other groups of people (white people with middle to upper class earnings). Examples include speaking two languages, hard drugs, getting arrested, scamming the government, skipping meals, selling weed, working on a farm.
Ha! Exactly what I was thinking with my above post. Just depends on where you land on this.
I shower in the morning and bathe in the evening. My son bathes every day. But this is how I was raised, everyone showers every day.
As a high school teacher, I would urge parents of teenagers to HIGHLY encourage them to clean daily.
I still remember sometime around April or may of 6th grade, our teachers sitting everyone down and explaining it was time to start using deodorant and showering more regularly. Of course, I assumed it was the stinky boys, not us delicate flower girls 😂
Up until I was about 30, I wouldn’t even go downstairs at my dads house until I showered. To the point it was a joke in the family. 16 months into WFH, and… well, I showered this afternoon because I couldn’t remember when I last did (sometime over the weekend…). But, it was three days in a row last week!
edit: probably more than 3 days last week, we were joking about how it was three days *in a row*.
I literally do not have the energy to make my kids take a bath every single night. My expectation is that by the time they require daily or every other day bathing that they'll be able to do it all themselves.
This reminds me of that meme/viral post where people listed things that are considered trashy or low class when done by certain groups of people, versus trendy or cool or whatever when done by other groups of people (white people with middle to upper class earnings). Examples include speaking two languages, hard drugs, getting arrested, scamming the government, skipping meals, selling weed, working on a farm.
Ha! Exactly what I was thinking with my above post. Just depends on where you land on this.
Yup - and Kutcher and Kulis are going to receive the kind of grace and praise that a lot of other people in this world would never be afforded.
She grew up in the Soviet Union so I think climate is a big factor too.
Didn’t she come to the US when she was seven? She might not even remember clearly.
I’m not sure but her parents obviously didn’t change their habits immediately.
This is much lower stakes, but I feel the same way when people say not using flat sheets is gross. I grew up without using them because cultural practices of my immigrant dad.
Showers are the best part of my day. No one comes in the bathroom & I can just shout “I can’t hear youuuuuu!” when someone tries to talk to me. Like hell I won’t do that daily (with a wash cloth, ftr).
But if you have any tips to get my stinky 13 year old over his obvious allergy to water, I’m all ears. You’d think I was torturing him by the way he carries on about not wanting to take a shower. And all his friends smell too so they can’t really tell who’s wearing Eau d’BO. 🙄
Didn’t she come to the US when she was seven? She might not even remember clearly.
She moved here when she was 11 from Russian controlled Ukraine.
I don’t think so:
"I blocked out second grade completely. I have no recollection of it. I always talk to my mom and my grandma about it. It was because I cried every day. I didn't understand the culture. I didn't understand the people. I didn't understand the language. My first sentence of my essay to get into college was like, 'Imagine being blind and deaf at age seven.' And that's kind of what it felt like moving to the States."
She moved here when she was 11 from Russian controlled Ukraine.
I don’t think so:
"I blocked out second grade completely. I have no recollection of it. I always talk to my mom and my grandma about it. It was because I cried every day. I didn't understand the culture. I didn't understand the people. I didn't understand the language. My first sentence of my essay to get into college was like, 'Imagine being blind and deaf at age seven.' And that's kind of what it felt like moving to the States."
She was apparently acting in movies and tv in the US by the time she was 9.
7 or 11, does it matter? You don't just move and give up your entire culture and habits. Especially, in context to this thread, when your bathing at that age is probably controlled and/or modeled by your parents.
Didn’t she come to the US when she was seven? She might not even remember clearly.
I’m not sure but her parents obviously didn’t change their habits immediately.
This is much lower stakes, but I feel the same way when people say not using flat sheets is gross. I grew up without using them because cultural practices of my immigrant dad.
I don’t get the no flat sheets being gross! Presumably other bed linens are being washed? Or to bring it full circle, you bathe before going to bed?
"I blocked out second grade completely. I have no recollection of it. I always talk to my mom and my grandma about it. It was because I cried every day. I didn't understand the culture. I didn't understand the people. I didn't understand the language. My first sentence of my essay to get into college was like, 'Imagine being blind and deaf at age seven.' And that's kind of what it felt like moving to the States."
She was apparently acting in movies and tv in the US by the time she was 9.
7 or 11, does it matter? You don't just move and give up your entire culture and habits. Especially, in context to this thread, when your bathing at that age is probably controlled and/or modeled by your parents.
IMO it seems hyperbolic to say you didn’t have hot water growing up so you didn’t bathe, implying it was an issue of access when it was actually a choice to not warm water on the stove there or bathe when you moved to the US before second grade and presumably had hot running water. I’m sure she had hot water access on her movie and tv sets as a child as well.
One of my best friends actually also immigrated here from Ukraine in 1991 due to antisemitism (similarly to Kunis’ family) and is upset that she’s implying that it’s some cultural habit not to bathe. She said if anything, they bathed more frequently avoid comments from their neighbors. Which is one reason why I thought she may be misremembering her early childhood.
I think it’s a bizarre kind of privilege to announce that you don’t bathe yourself and expect people to still think highly of you and want to be around you.
This reminds me of that meme/viral post where people listed things that are considered trashy or low class when done by certain groups of people, versus trendy or cool or whatever when done by other groups of people (white people with middle to upper class earnings). Examples include speaking two languages, hard drugs, getting arrested, scamming the government, skipping meals, selling weed, working on a farm.
7 or 11, does it matter? You don't just move and give up your entire culture and habits. Especially, in context to this thread, when your bathing at that age is probably controlled and/or modeled by your parents.
IMO it seems hyperbolic to say you didn’t have hot water growing up so you didn’t bathe, implying it was an issue of access when it was actually a choice to not warm water on the stove there or bathe when you moved to the US before second grade and presumably had hot running water. I’m sure she had hot water access on her movie and tv sets as a child as well.
One of my best friends actually also immigrated here from Ukraine in 1991 due to antisemitism (similarly to Kunis’ family) and is upset that she’s implying that it’s some cultural habit not to bathe. She said if anything, they bathed more frequently avoid comments from their neighbors. Which is one reason why I thought she may be misremembering her early childhood.
You’re saying you think “having hot water” means having access to cold water and a stove to heat water up?
I can guarantee you that 99.99999% of people here do not think that’s what it means. When people “have hot water” or “don’t have hot water” they mean water coming out of their spout into their sink and bathtubs.
I’m going to leave aside the comment that she should have showered at work when she was a child because that is just silly. She’s a kid!!!
Obviously this is not the case here, but I'd like to remind people that access to safe, potable, reliable water in the US is still a luxury that not all people are afforded even in rural or urban areas.
Obviously this is not the case here, but I'd like to remind people that access to safe, potable, reliable water in the US is still a luxury that not all people are afforded even in rural or urban areas.
Obviously this is not the case here, but I'd like to remind people that access to safe, potable, reliable water in the US is still a luxury that not all people are afforded even in rural or urban areas.
And from this study, which talks about drinking water but could correlate to bathing water - In the United States, nearly one in two adults and one in four children do not drink tap water on a given day, with even more dismal statistics among minority and low-income populations. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5551618/
Post by amandakisser on Jul 29, 2021 9:07:50 GMT -5
I grew up with a weekly bath/shower. I didn’t start bathing more frequently until I hit adulthood.
Now, infrequent bathing is a sign I am depressed. I can literally go a week without showering (or more, ugh) when I’m suffering from depression. I just don’t have the drive for self care when I’m in it. So showering is just one component - I don’t work out, get dressed, or eat as I normally would.
All that to say, I can fall anywhere on the bathing spectrum lol, so I don’t judge at ALL.
IMO it seems hyperbolic to say you didn’t have hot water growing up so you didn’t bathe, implying it was an issue of access when it was actually a choice to not warm water on the stove there or bathe when you moved to the US before second grade and presumably had hot running water. I’m sure she had hot water access on her movie and tv sets as a child as well.
One of my best friends actually also immigrated here from Ukraine in 1991 due to antisemitism (similarly to Kunis’ family) and is upset that she’s implying that it’s some cultural habit not to bathe. She said if anything, they bathed more frequently avoid comments from their neighbors. Which is one reason why I thought she may be misremembering her early childhood.
You’re saying you think “having hot water” means having access to cold water and a stove to heat water up?
I can guarantee you that 99.99999% of people here do not think that’s what it means. When people “have hot water” or “don’t have hot water” they mean water coming out of their spout into their sink and bathtubs.
I’m going to leave aside the comment that she should have showered at work when she was a child because that is just silly. She’s a kid!!!
No, I not saying that’s what it means at all.
As I said, they made the choice not to heat up water on the stove to bathe. That’s what people who only have access to cold running water do for cooking, cleaning and basic hygiene. She moved to Los Angeles at a very young age and presumably had access to running hot water which would have made bathing easier.
My grandfather had a cold water fishing cabin when I was a child and we heated water in the kettle for dishes, hand washing and yes, bathing when we stayed over. It’s very simple and very common. Not having running hot water doesn’t have to mean people don’t bathe regularly. It just means you have one more step.
Children do bathe outside the home. It would not be any more unusual to shower on the set than it would at the gym. You are there most of the day. My point was that if there was continued lack of access to hot water at home for some reason—-she has said her parents were more well off in Ukraine than they were when they arrived in LA so giving them a huge benefit of the doubt—-she did have other options.
She says she continues not to bathe regularly to this day despite ample access to hot water straight from the tap and millions of dollars. Access is not her issue, she just doesn’t want to clean herself. I’m not sure why she doesn’t just own it.
"I blocked out second grade completely. I have no recollection of it. I always talk to my mom and my grandma about it. It was because I cried every day. I didn't understand the culture. I didn't understand the people. I didn't understand the language. My first sentence of my essay to get into college was like, 'Imagine being blind and deaf at age seven.' And that's kind of what it felt like moving to the States."
She was apparently acting in movies and tv in the US by the time she was 9.
7 or 11, does it matter? You don't just move and give up your entire culture and habits. Especially, in context to this thread, when your bathing at that age is probably controlled and/or modeled by your parents.
Yeah it was 7, I was mistaken but im sitting with you here. Her age wasn't reaaallyy the point 🤦♀️
I don't understand why people are insisting that not bathing every day = being cool with smelling bad. Many people (including some in this thread) can easily go multiple days without showering and not smell. MH is one. I am not. Bodies are different; you do you.
(This same thing goes for hair washing, shaving/grooming, using moisturizer, etc. Just because you "can't" go without something doesn't mean millions aren't out here not doing it and no one else will ever notice.)
You’re saying you think “having hot water” means having access to cold water and a stove to heat water up?
I can guarantee you that 99.99999% of people here do not think that’s what it means. When people “have hot water” or “don’t have hot water” they mean water coming out of their spout into their sink and bathtubs.
I’m going to leave aside the comment that she should have showered at work when she was a child because that is just silly. She’s a kid!!!
No, I not saying that’s what it means at all.
As I said, they made the choice not to heat up water on the stove to bathe. That’s what people who only have access to cold running water do for cooking, cleaning and basic hygiene. She moved to Los Angeles at a very young age and presumably had access to running hot water which would have made bathing easier.
My grandfather had a cold water fishing cabin when I was a child and we heated water in the kettle for dishes, hand washing and yes, bathing when we stayed over. It’s very simple and very common. Not having running hot water doesn’t have to mean people don’t bathe regularly. It just means you have one more step.
Children do bathe outside the home. It would not be any more unusual to shower on the set than it would at the gym. You are there most of the day. My point was that if there was continued lack of access to hot water at home for some reason—-she has said her parents were more well off in Ukraine than they were when they arrived in LA so giving them a huge benefit of the doubt—-she did have other options.
She says she continues not to bathe regularly to this day despite ample access to hot water straight from the tap and millions of dollars. Access is not her issue, she just doesn’t want to clean herself. I’m not sure why she doesn’t just own it.
Idk, it seemed like whatever happened to her in her childhood influenced her beliefs about bathing and she is owning it bc she told the story about it.
Post by picksthemusic on Jul 29, 2021 9:34:27 GMT -5
DD has to bathe at least every other day or she is RIPE (but - product rave here - Lume deodorant works like a charm!!). She's 9 and hitting some hormonal milestones, so we try to make sure she's getting washed at least that often. DS can go a few days, but he is still getting the hang of wiping and sometimes the odor gets offensive and we make him shower more often.
I think as long as they are washing their hands after they use the bathroom and stuff, it's fine.
The fact that they decided to put this out there like it was some sort of important thing is something else, though.
Obviously this is not the case here, but I'd like to remind people that access to safe, potable, reliable water in the US is still a luxury that not all people are afforded even in rural or urban areas.
And from this study, which talks about drinking water but could correlate to bathing water - In the United States, nearly one in two adults and one in four children do not drink tap water on a given day, with even more dismal statistics among minority and low-income populations. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5551618/
Often water that is unsafe to drink is fine for bathing or cleaning. That study speaks to community distrust even when the water is safe and issues in municipal drinking water. As the study says, it is an onerous task to buy bottled water so it can lead to decreased water consumption and even dehydration.
I’ve lived and worked in the areas in Baltimore mentioned in the study where you can’t drink the tap water (the local school provided water to the students) due to lead but we all bathed and cleaned our dishes and laundry with the water straight from the tap. I admit, I probably drank less water then than I would have normally. Now I live in a part of the city where we are just told to run the taps for a few minutes prior to drinking and it’s much easier. I’m not convinced it is cheaper because our water bills are notoriously high and go up a lot each year but it is easier.
I agree there is a huge, worsening infrastructure problem here in the US and water safety is part of it but I don’t think it’s keeping these two millionaires from washing themselves after the gym.
yup. this is so far off my radar of caring one iota.
(also lol at bathing my 4 year old daily. In the spring I have to most days because he comes home head to toe in mud and dirt and it kills me, lol. #lazy)
As I said, they made the choice not to heat up water on the stove to bathe. That’s what people who only have access to cold running water do for cooking, cleaning and basic hygiene. She moved to Los Angeles at a very young age and presumably had access to running hot water which would have made bathing easier.
My grandfather had a cold water fishing cabin when I was a child and we heated water in the kettle for dishes, hand washing and yes, bathing when we stayed over. It’s very simple and very common. Not having running hot water doesn’t have to mean people don’t bathe regularly. It just means you have one more step.
Children do bathe outside the home. It would not be any more unusual to shower on the set than it would at the gym. You are there most of the day. My point was that if there was continued lack of access to hot water at home for some reason—-she has said her parents were more well off in Ukraine than they were when they arrived in LA so giving them a huge benefit of the doubt—-she did have other options.
She says she continues not to bathe regularly to this day despite ample access to hot water straight from the tap and millions of dollars. Access is not her issue, she just doesn’t want to clean herself. I’m not sure why she doesn’t just own it.
Idk, it seemed like whatever happened to her in her childhood influenced her beliefs about bathing and she is owning it bc she told the story about it.
I don’t want to go around in circles but she said she didn’t bathe often as a child because she couldn’t. She could have, they just apparently chose not to.
Owning it would be saying that you don’t feel bathing is important so you don’t do it. That’s basically what her husband has done. He didn’t make excuses for not showering after a work out and says you only need to wash when visibly dirty.