Opting out of some of those things spreads disease. Not showering, or even toothbrushing, on a daily basis does not.
Not showering before (and after) going in a pool can spread disease. The spread of pinworms is reduced by regular bathing, especially by children. The risk of trachoma can be reduced by regular face washing. Bathing and changing your clothes regularly can help cut down on the spread of body lice. If you are sneezing into your elbow and people are, for example, dressing you because you are an actor you can spread disease that way.
They are putting people who rely on them for their livelihood in the position of having to tell them they stink/are dirty or deal with it. That’s not okay and is some sort of warped kind of privilege/entitlement.
I think we all do things like wear clothes and shoes, wash our hands, brush our teeth, bathe, wear masks during pandemics, that we might personally not find comfortable or enjoy but we do them because it’s part of the social contract and living in modern society. Opting out by choice puts a burden on other people that they don’t need to have.
Huh? They’re making the people who work for them tell them they’re smelly? How? What? What if they don’t smell? If I don’t take a shower for two days I can definitely smell myself, but my girlfriend only showers once or twice a week and always looks and smells great. You’re looking so hard for a reason for them to be giant privileged assholes- and they might be! But this isn’t why.
Bathing every day and wearing a mask during a pandemic are totally not the same things. Jesus.
Maybe they are all smell-free unicorns! Good for them. I have worked very closely with people who do not bathe regularly by choice (including after working out) and it does not make for a pleasant work environment. People quit over it, we lost clients. We were all put in the position of having to tell them they stank and they made all our lives miserable.
Huh? They’re making the people who work for them tell them they’re smelly? How? What? What if they don’t smell? If I don’t take a shower for two days I can definitely smell myself, but my girlfriend only showers once or twice a week and always looks and smells great. You’re looking so hard for a reason for them to be giant privileged assholes- and they might be! But this isn’t why.
Bathing every day and wearing a mask during a pandemic are totally not the same things. Jesus.
Maybe they are all smell-free unicorns! Good for them. I have worked very closely with people who do not bathe regularly by choice (including after working out) and it does not make for a pleasant work environment. People quit over it, we lost clients. We were all put in the position of having to tell them they stank and they made all our lives miserable.
Ah. I see we have hit the root of the issue. It only took 4 pages. This is a you thing, and not an everyone thing.
Ashton Kutcher (and Dax Shepard, who he was talking to and is also an apparent non-bather) look like they reek in pretty much every candid shot I’ve ever seen.
I’m sure there are some unicorns out there who are fresh as a daisy 24/7 without ever touching a drop of water or soap.
I think he looks fine when I’ve seen him 🤷🏼♀️, Mila definitely always looks amazing. This is such an odd thing to dig in on, and seems out of character for you.
I guess thinking incredibly privileged adults should shower regularly if they are going to be around other people is my hill to die on. lol
Who knew so many people don’t like to clean themselves or think it’s necessary before you are visibly filthy? This is the only place in my life I’ve encountered this.
I think he looks fine when I’ve seen him 🤷🏼♀️, Mila definitely always looks amazing. This is such an odd thing to dig in on, and seems out of character for you.
I guess thinking incredibly privileged adults should shower regularly if they are going to be around other people is my hill to die on. lol
Who knew so many people don’t like to clean themselves or think it’s necessary before you are visibly filthy? This is the only place in my life I’ve encountered this.
You've probably encountered it daily in your life, people just don't talk about it because it's not that big of a deal.
I think he looks fine when I’ve seen him 🤷🏼♀️, Mila definitely always looks amazing. This is such an odd thing to dig in on, and seems out of character for you.
I guess thinking incredibly privileged adults should shower regularly if they are going to be around other people is my hill to die on. lol
Who knew so many people don’t like to clean themselves or think it’s necessary before you are visibly filthy? This is the only place in my life I’ve encountered this.
There wasn’t even a hill before you built one. 1. Bathing regularly does not have to equal bathing daily 2. Did you read the article? They actually do wash daily, just not full shower. 3. There is a huge difference between not having a full-on bath/shower daily and waiting until you’re “visibly filthy” or until you reek.
I think he looks fine when I’ve seen him 🤷🏼♀️, Mila definitely always looks amazing. This is such an odd thing to dig in on, and seems out of character for you.
I guess thinking incredibly privileged adults should shower regularly if they are going to be around other people is my hill to die on. lol
Who knew so many people don’t like to clean themselves or think it’s necessary before you are visibly filthy? This is the only place in my life I’ve encountered this.
I think the "visibly dirty" comment was only made in reference to the kids, not the adults.
Maybe they are all smell-free unicorns! Good for them. I have worked very closely with people who do not bathe regularly by choice (including after working out) and it does not make for a pleasant work environment. People quit over it, we lost clients. We were all put in the position of having to tell them they stank and they made all our lives miserable.
Ah. I see we have hit the root of the issue. It only took 4 pages. This is a you thing, and not an everyone thing.
Well, no actually, I’ve never encountered anyone outside of here and these particular people who don’t bathe regularly and think that waiting until seeing visible dirt to bathe is the norm.
Having sympathy for people who have to work for to be around grown men (and women) who think they don’t need to shower after working out or regularly is just being human. I hadn’t even remembered that situation until people were saying that not bathing regularly doesn’t effect the people around you. It very often does. Ask any teacher who has been in a classroom after a gym class and the kids didn’t shower.
I guess thinking incredibly privileged adults should shower regularly if they are going to be around other people is my hill to die on. lol
Who knew so many people don’t like to clean themselves or think it’s necessary before you are visibly filthy? This is the only place in my life I’ve encountered this.
You've probably encountered it daily in your life, people just don't talk about it because it's not that big of a deal.
If you say so! Weird hygiene does come up pretty frequently online and in person—the wash cloth debate, people not hand washing, people saying they don’t wash their legs etc Maybe I’m just lucky and have clean friends with access to running water?
You've probably encountered it daily in your life, people just don't talk about it because it's not that big of a deal.
If you say so! Weird hygiene does come up pretty frequently online and in person—the wash cloth debate, people not hand washing, people saying they don’t wash their legs etc Maybe I’m just lucky and have clean friends with access to running water?
Or people know better than to bring it up to you. Lol
If you say so! Weird hygiene does come up pretty frequently online and in person—the wash cloth debate, people not hand washing, people saying they don’t wash their legs etc Maybe I’m just lucky and have clean friends with access to running water?
Or people know better than to bring it up to you. Lol
Here's a fun story for you - our org generally has a ton of people who work out during lunch. I personally know that my work out buddies and myself don't shower after working out. Our CFO doesn't shower. Our assistant director doesn't shower. One of our assistant city managers doesn't shower... We're just all super stinky wallowing in our filth.
Here's a fun story for you - our org generally has a ton of people who work out during lunch. I personally know that my work out buddies and myself don't shower after working out. Our CFO doesn't shower. Our assistant director doesn't shower. One of our assistant city managers doesn't shower... We're just all super stinky wallowing in our filth.
Here's a fun story for you - our org generally has a ton of people who work out during lunch. I personally know that my work out buddies and myself don't shower after working out. Our CFO doesn't shower. Our assistant director doesn't shower. One of our assistant city managers doesn't shower... We're just all super stinky wallowing in our filth.
Do you have a drs note though?
No, but I know for damn sure the assistant mgr isn't going to fire me if I slightly smell.
To make it PCE: I have a feeling this conversation is going to show its age as a historical anomaly. Climate change is probably going to upend some of our habits. If we’re lucky, it’ll be voluntary. Maybe a bit coerced as water prices rise. Maybe more coerced once we’re under tighter rationing. If we’re really unlucky, it just won’t be possible as systems break down. Which is already happening in places.
But also, your grandparents most likely didn’t grow up with our current habits of bathing and laundering. Almost certainly the generations before them, especially if they weren’t wealthy. And it all comes at a cost.
To make it PCE: I have a feeling this conversation is going to show its age as a historical anomaly. Climate change is probably going to upend some of our habits. If we’re lucky, it’ll be voluntary. Maybe a bit coerced as water prices rise. Maybe more coerced once we’re under tighter rationing. If we’re really unlucky, it just won’t be possible as systems break down. Which is already happening in places.
But also, your grandparents most likely didn’t grow up with our current habits of bathing and laundering. Almost certainly the generations before them, especially if they weren’t wealthy. And it all comes at a cost.
I don't think we'll reach Dune levels, but yeah, like all things climate is going to change our society and societal norms.
I have family who has no running hot water. They do not heat up water multiple times a day and do not bathe daily due to the effort required. When they do heat up water it’s like a tea kettle’s worth - not a bathtub’s worth. In the summer they use a solar shower but that is not possible all year round.
Lots of things are harder and take more time when you do not have access to hot water (running water) in your home. I think you are simplifying this whole situation a great deal and really digging in your heels about something that seems silly.
Yet you keep responding to me about it.
It is routine to heat water to wash yourself and dishes in places that don’t have hot running water. I’m sure some people (like these millionaires) chose not to wash dishes or clean themselves regularly whether they have hot running water or not.
You don’t fill an entire tub with boiling water to bathe. You add a kettle or two to cool water in a tub or large basin. As I said, I’ve done it myself many times. It does not take much more time for water to boil in a kettle than it takes for an older or large water heater to heat the water when drawing a bath or hand washing dishes.
Fwiw everywhere that I’ve had to bucket bathe when visiting friends that didn’t have running water there was no heating up the water. I’ve only been in African and Caribbean countries so not sure about the rest of the world that doesn’t have running water. And my friends and their families did bathe daily in those countries so norms can certainly vary. Just wanted to point that out as it’s not routine everywhere to heat up water.
As for the rest, I don’t care about people’s bathing habits in general. Anytime a patient tells me they didn’t bathe or shave before their appointment I’m like I do not care! Just glad you made it here.
To make it PCE: I have a feeling this conversation is going to show its age as a historical anomaly. Climate change is probably going to upend some of our habits. If we’re lucky, it’ll be voluntary. Maybe a bit coerced as water prices rise. Maybe more coerced once we’re under tighter rationing. If we’re really unlucky, it just won’t be possible as systems break down. Which is already happening in places.
But also, your grandparents most likely didn’t grow up with our current habits of bathing and laundering. Almost certainly the generations before them, especially if they weren’t wealthy. And it all comes at a cost.
How timely -
Officials have formal reports of 117 empty wells but suspect more than 300 have gone dry in the past few weeks as the consequences of the Klamath River basin’s water scarcity extend far beyond farmers’ fields.
Worried homeowners face waits of six months or more to get new, deeper wells dug because of the surging demand, with no guarantee that those wells, too, won’t ultimately go dry.
Some are getting by on the generosity of neighbors, or hauling free water from a nearby city. The state also is sending in a water truck and scrambling to ship more than 350 emergency storage tanks from as far as Oklahoma amid a nationwide shortage of the containers due to drought-induced demand across the U.S. West. The first tanks arrived Thursday.
Here's a fun story for you - our org generally has a ton of people who work out during lunch. I personally know that my work out buddies and myself don't shower after working out. Our CFO doesn't shower. Our assistant director doesn't shower. One of our assistant city managers doesn't shower... We're just all super stinky wallowing in our filth.
Regional!
When I was in CO this summer, I hardly sweat/got stinky even in an outdoor workout when it was 90* plus. Back home in the Midwest in the humidity, I was sweaty and starting to stink after walking 10 minutes to the doctors office.
Mila Kunus has really bad skin, but I know that’s more likely genetic than a “not showering” issue.
Anyway, I wouldn’t date someone who didn’t wash their genitals daily, but if you look at what Ashton Kutcher actually said, he does.
Also, our summer camp only had a water line to the lake, as did most others on our shore, until my parents moved there permanently. So we would fill pop bottles and milk jugs at my grandma’s house (nice municipal water vs the well water at our house) for drinking and brushing our teeth. We’d bathe, wash clothes, clean, wash hands, etc in the lake water.