I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
Really? I was already calculating my estimated availability date in my head....right before Christmas. I'll use any and all tools available to me to not get COVID and/or reduce my symptoms.
I’ll get it, but I feel some kind of way about some Americans unable to get their first shot yet, plus the rest of the world still waiting for one shot.
Ok.
But no mention of
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No mention of how we can help other countries get vaccinated?
This is becoming a shitshow. Truly the science shows a booster is needed and I don't have a problem with that but this rollout has been...something. I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
I know a lot of very smart, rational people who signed up for the vaccine at the first chance they had who have said absolutely not to a booster shot unless it’s made abundantly clear they NEED it. They all had horrific reactions to the second shot and dealing with the side effects again would be a hardship for a variety of reasons.
I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
Really? I was already calculating my estimated availability date in my head....right before Christmas. I'll use any and all tools available to me to not get COVID and/or reduce my symptoms.
Oh I will get mine, too, in October. I was happy to see J&J mentioned because usually we like to pretend no one ever got that one. Will J&J even be available anywhere though? It's going to be a logistical nightmare. So many people only got vaccinated because employers mandated it or they thought it was the right thing to do. It will be a hard sell to get people to endure crappy side effects, too, especially when they may not get time off of work. Also, somehow, a lot of Americans still don't think Covid is a big deal. Boosters will be an uphill battle and I stand by my opinion we would be better served just getting more people vaccinated to begin with globally.
I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
Really? I was already calculating my estimated availability date in my head....right before Christmas. I'll use any and all tools available to me to not get COVID and/or reduce my symptoms.
Same here. Although I will echo others who have said it makes them feel some kind of way knowing that there are people in countries who haven't been able to even receive a first dose.
I'm getting so stressed about returning to work in a month. We're supposed to be rolling out a hybrid schedule that I worked so hard on and crafted for the entire company with my colleague. And now we can't figure out if we should shut it down and keep everyone home, institute masking, delay the return, or just keep on keeping on. Add on to it that personally I'm immunocompromised, so if we do reopen, I should really request an exemption and I know I'd get it with zero issues, my boss has already made it clear and supports whatever I need to do. But how do I get a medical exemption and not show up and abide by the policy I created? It's a really sucky situation to be in and I can't get out of my own head about it all. Realistically, who even knows where we'll be in a month anyway.
I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
Really? I was already calculating my estimated availability date in my head....right before Christmas. I'll use any and all tools available to me to not get COVID and/or reduce my symptoms.
All of the people I know working in healthcare having been antsy to get another shot. My parents asked us for advice on whether they should get as third shot under the immunocompromised umbrella earlier this week because their friends were getting third shots, saying, "I'm 75...That must count as immune compromised."
I'm not excited for additional side effects, but I'm lucky to be able to have flexibility and sick time to deal with this. I'm get my third dose in December.
The vaccine advisory panel’s recommendation last week was that no doctors note was needed and patients to self certify they qualified. So, this is consistent with that.
Everything I've read has said that getting more people shots is more effective than giving those who are already vaccinated a booster. But I don't know how you deal with that in a place like the US where some people just refuse. A mandate, I guess.
I guess I would get a booster if it's offered and abundant. Will Americans refusing a booster mean that other countries get more vaccines? Or will it mean the vaccines sit unused here in the US?
Post by wanderlustmom on Aug 17, 2021 11:54:28 GMT -5
I was vaccinated early because I work in the medical profession and I'm actually due for my booster now. I did have bad side effects for eight hours after the second shot--but that would not deter me at all. I'm healthy and youngish and still don't want to roll the dice with Covid. I even volunteered for the trials but wasn't chosen. None of this takes away my guilt that age groups aren't eligible and much of the world hasn't had their first. I'm trying to keep my eagerness for a booster separate from my frustration at the inequities. I can feel safer taking care of my patients in person and I feel it's okay to get it if we are in eligible groups. But I know a lot of people will disagree. If the CDC changes course, I'll wait, but I will get it if offered.
Huh. I have no issue with getting a booster if necessary, or even yearly shots like the flu shot. But is it necessary right now? The two shots still seems very effective in preventing severe disease/hospitalization for non immunocompromised peeps, so is this booster supposed to reduce any amount of infection or all symptomatic infection? Like, what is the goal of the booster, and do we have evidence that it achieves that goal? Because yeah if not, it seems very selfish and wasteful to be giving another shot to people just to reduce symptoms in an already less likely to occur infection, instead of working on getting more people vaccinated at all in other parts of the world.
I don't want to get a booster if the effects are the same as the second shot. OMGBLERGH! But I'll do it, and be super fucking pissed that I have to do it because of all the dipshits that wouldn't get the vaxx in the first place.
We just reopened our covid icu. We actually enjoyed several months of no ICU covid patients. Now we have 10. All intubated, 3 of them just last night.
The worst part is the fact that both major hospitals in my town are full with patients with other problems and are on diversion for anything other than STEMIs, strokes, and traumas. We had Kansas calling to see if we could take patients. My new job is the ER in a small town now and had 3 people to send to the main hospitals for admission last night for services we didn't have. The sad reality is that the only time you'll get a bed for a patient at night is if someone dies.
The closest hospitals that can take anything else are hours away.
I'm rambling now. But it's been since December since I got my first shot. I live and work in a very low uptake area. I have no problems taking a 3rd dose asap.
I also see very few people actually signing up for the booster shot. Older Americans sure. Otherwise? I don't see it happening.
Really? I was already calculating my estimated availability date in my head....right before Christmas. I'll use any and all tools available to me to not get COVID and/or reduce my symptoms.
Likewise. I'm not going to be due for ages due to not qualifying for my first shot until the end of April, but I'm sure I'll get it on the day I meet the criteria again, if not before (will be consulting with my doctor). A majority of people won't hit 8 months for a long time yet. I do hope they recommend an earlier booster for the olds. I'm getting concerned about my parents again, with breakthroughs for olds being more likely and more dangerous...
Saudade , I just want to say your stories from the front lines have really made an impact, and I would like to that you for sharing your experiences (especially the covid-denying ICU doc). Thank you 😘 My heart goes out to you, and others working on covid through this.
Post by thelurkylulu on Aug 17, 2021 12:38:27 GMT -5
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
I think it’s more about vaccine equity world wide- there are still a lot of people all over the world with zero Covid protection or the chance to get it, and we’re talking about third shots and throwing shots out because we can’t even get people to take the first one. I do think people who truly need a booster should still get one, i want my doctors and nurses and medical staff to be safe, but we need to be doing more to get vaccines to those who need it elsewhere too.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
I think it’s more about vaccine equity world wide- there are still a lot of people all over the world with zero Covid protection or the chance to get it, and we’re talking about third shots and throwing shots out because we can’t even get people to take the first one. I do think people who truly need a booster should still get one, i want my doctors and nurses and medical staff to be safe, but we need to be doing more to get vaccines to those who need it elsewhere too.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
There is still a portion of the population that faces issues such as access, or not having time off work for either the shot or the potential side effects, or both.
I try to remember that as it really feels like the only people left are just refusers. But, there are still legit reasons.
as I was typing this, I was thinking about voting IDs - as middle class people, to us, it seems it’s so easy and why wouldn’t everyone have an ID. But, there are hurdles for many.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
For me, it's the rest of the world. WHO specifically asked the US to not do boosters because it's taking the supply from other countries.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
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Kids under 12 aren’t eligible. Also the global equity issue.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
There is still a portion of the population that faces issues such as access, or not having time off work for either the shot or the potential side effects, or both.
I try to remember that as it really feels like the only people left are just refusers. But, there are still legit reasons.
as I was typing this, I was thinking about voting IDs - as middle class people, to us, it seems it’s so easy and why wouldn’t everyone have an ID. But, there are hurdles for many.
Gotcha. I live in a red state but a very large, blue city that has went above and beyond to make sure underserved populations have had access to vaccinations, so it’s probably skewed my view or what I “see”
Saudade , I just want to say your stories from the front lines have really made an impact, and I would like to that you for sharing your experiences (especially the covid-denying ICU doc). Thank you 😘 My heart goes out to you, and others working on covid through this.
I appreciate your kind words. It will never be NY or TX or FL around here and I don't want to minimize those experiences because it's 1000x worse (and I truly believe this). But I am also wired differently and it's truly an honor and privilege to be able to do the work I do.
It does get frustrating when a person comes in to the ER with complaints of "back pain" and lab work is negative so you swab them for covid and it's positive. And you just spent most of the time in just a surgical mask....oh and they're unvaccinated. I don't *want* to wear a N95 all shift. I like wearing a surgical mask.
^^ this is most of my daily complaints, petty shit like this.
The thing about covid times is that "normal" life still goes on. So our ER is full of detox and lac repairs and a kid swallowing something they shouldn't. And they all deserve the same amount of care. But then the resources and energy is spent on covid shit and we get exhausted and tired of it all.
I just started my new job. It's a small, rural ER. It shouldn't be busy around the clock. Yet I have not had a shift where it's not absolute chaos. Most nights I don't even get to my notes until the end of the shift, if I'm lucky. <---this is where burnout comes from. I am just starting this career and I can tell you, it's completely unsustainable. Not only that, it's unsafe. I can't be 100% certain that when I'm charting tons of patient encounters 12 hours after I saw them, that my HPI, review of systems, and physical exam is exactly what it was.
Once again, I'm rambling and venting to majority of like-minded people. But these are the things I wish unvax'd people knew and cared about.
When you all are talking about people who haven’t been vaccinated yet or had the opportunity to be vaccinated, what groups are you specifically talking about? I have been consuming less covid news lately because I’m just mentally exhausted by all of it.
When I think of the people I know who aren’t vaccinated, it’s ones that won’t ever take it. So I don’t fully understand the argument of not getting a booster until everyone has had an opportunity. If my doctor thinks I need a booster, I will get one no questions asked.
I think it’s more about vaccine equity world wide- there are still a lot of people all over the world with zero Covid protection or the chance to get it, and we’re talking about third shots and throwing shots out because we can’t even get people to take the first one. I do think people who truly need a booster should still get one, i want my doctors and nurses and medical staff to be safe, but we need to be doing more to get vaccines to those who need it elsewhere too.
Also from a practical/selfish standpoint, we will not stop these new variants until we vaccinate the world. No amount of boosters are going to help us if wild ass variants keep developing in unvaccinated nations.