What do you think the insurance companies will decide about those dipshits drinking/injecting/swallowing horse goo aka ivermectin (livestock dewormer) that are being hospitalized due to self poisoning and potentially giving themselves long-terrm internal organ damage.
They won’t take the vaccine but overdosing on animal parasite meds is a solid idea.
Post by dancingirl21 on Aug 27, 2021 21:13:13 GMT -5
People are just so delusional. I cannot.
What kind of faulty judgement do you need to have to go to a livestock store and purchase horse medication, but refuse to take a vaccination that scientists have spent their careers preparing for and developing? Where is the disconnect?! I want to pound my head against a wall.
Every time I talk to my mom she mentions that she's looking for ivermectin to take instead of getting a booster shot (she got J&J). She is a retired nurse so I *think* she knows better than to take a livestock formulation, but still. She sends me links to youtube videos about how it's a wonder drug that the CDC and pharma companies are suppressing.
The anti-science movement is really depressing. Several years ago, I was speaking with a Russian colleague who traced Russia's anti-science sentiment back to Stalin. I just see this getting worse and worse.
There is an article in Time ive been trying to finish, so I’m posting before I’ve read the whole thing. But about “America’s frontline doctors” grift on ivermectin
There is an article in Time ive been trying to finish, so I’m posting before I’ve read the whole thing. But about “America’s frontline doctors” grift on ivermectin
What kind of faulty judgement do you need to have to go to a livestock store and purchase horse medication, but refuse to take a vaccination that scientists have spent their careers preparing for and developing? Where is the disconnect?! I want to pound my head against a wall.
If you figure this out, can you please tell me? My sister is here……and was most upset that her local pharmacies will not fill her prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. I have to laugh as to us having a huge stash of HCQ as DH was on it for when his rheumatologist thought he had lupus. DH went into remission, his doctor took him off of it and DH forgot to stop his automatic shipments.
Her excuses have been moving goal posts, and despite the hours I have spent hours on the phone with her explaining the science in 6th grade biology terms, she prefers to believe a hack on the internet rather than her sister, who has been working in immunology, infectious disease and epidemiology for the last 30+ years.
There are 4 states between us right now, but she is joining us for a dive trip next week for a couple weeks. This can be good…..or very, very bad.
There is an article in Time ive been trying to finish, so I’m posting before I’ve read the whole thing. But about “America’s frontline doctors” grift on ivermectin
There is an article in Time ive been trying to finish, so I’m posting before I’ve read the whole thing. But about “America’s frontline doctors” grift on ivermectin
There is an article in Time ive been trying to finish, so I’m posting before I’ve read the whole thing. But about “America’s frontline doctors” grift on ivermectin
tiki my mom got super into YouTube videos at the beginning of the pandemic. It was so frustrating. One day I was like "you know literally anyone can buy scrubs and upload a video saying they're a doctor or nurse?" And the thought that someone would do that seemed to blow her mind. I think that snapped her out of it.
Unbiased Science always has good posts about whatever the newest thing is and the reason it doesn't actually work, but in easy to understand language. They're on Instagram and Facebook. Maybe Twitter but I don't have Twitter.
What kind of faulty judgement do you need to have to go to a livestock store and purchase horse medication, but refuse to take a vaccination that scientists have spent their careers preparing for and developing? Where is the disconnect?! I want to pound my head against a wall.
If you figure this out, can you please tell me? My sister is here……and was most upset that her local pharmacies will not fill her prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. I have to laugh as to us having a huge stash of HCQ as DH was on it for when his rheumatologist thought he had lupus. DH went into remission, his doctor took him off of it and DH forgot to stop his automatic shipments.
Her excuses have been moving goal posts, and despite the hours I have spent hours on the phone with her explaining the science in 6th grade biology terms, she prefers to believe a hack on the internet rather than her sister, who has been working in immunology, infectious disease and epidemiology for the last 30+ years.
There are 4 states between us right now, but she is joining us for a dive trip next week for a couple weeks. This can be good…..or very, very bad.
You’re hanging out with someone who isn’t vaccinated for two weeks? Stay safe (physically and mentally)!!!
If you figure this out, can you please tell me? My sister is here……and was most upset that her local pharmacies will not fill her prescriptions for ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. I have to laugh as to us having a huge stash of HCQ as DH was on it for when his rheumatologist thought he had lupus. DH went into remission, his doctor took him off of it and DH forgot to stop his automatic shipments.
Her excuses have been moving goal posts, and despite the hours I have spent hours on the phone with her explaining the science in 6th grade biology terms, she prefers to believe a hack on the internet rather than her sister, who has been working in immunology, infectious disease and epidemiology for the last 30+ years.
There are 4 states between us right now, but she is joining us for a dive trip next week for a couple weeks. This can be good…..or very, very bad.
You’re hanging out with someone who isn’t vaccinated for two weeks? Stay safe (physically and mentally)!!!
Yeah….not happy about this. These days, we only socialize with vaccinated. My only comfort is that she needs to be tested before she gets into the plane via PCR. That helps a little.
Post by litebright on Aug 30, 2021 10:00:49 GMT -5
People are suing hospitals in order to get their loved ones who are dying of covid to be treated with the human version of ivermectin.
They pay to get a scrip for it from a group of fringe doctors who advocate for its use, but if the hospital refuses to dispense the treatment, now there are apparently a handful of cases around the country where the family members are suing to force the hospital/doctors to administer it.
More on ivermectin and the "America's Frontline Doctors" group. Apparently there is also Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that is involved in the story above in Ohio.
People are suing hospitals in order to get their loved ones who are dying of covid to be treated with the human version of ivermectin.
They pay to get a scrip for it from a group of fringe doctors who advocate for its use, but if the hospital refuses to dispense the treatment, now there are apparently a handful of cases around the country where the family members are suing to force the hospital/doctors to administer it.
More on ivermectin and the "America's Frontline Doctors" group. Apparently there is also Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that is involved in the story above in Ohio.
People are suing hospitals in order to get their loved ones who are dying of covid to be treated with the human version of ivermectin.
They pay to get a scrip for it from a group of fringe doctors who advocate for its use, but if the hospital refuses to dispense the treatment, now there are apparently a handful of cases around the country where the family members are suing to force the hospital/doctors to administer it.
More on ivermectin and the "America's Frontline Doctors" group. Apparently there is also Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that is involved in the story above in Ohio.
The unrelenting fucking audacity of these people is just astounding.
So if he dies will she sue for medical malpractice?
Most likely. I "know" (using that term very loosely) someone who's spouse just passed away and they're talking about sueing. I have a very strong suspicion they were trying ivermectin treatment when it happened. They're antivax and we're traveling literally around the world during this time without a care about covid so they seem to check all the boxes of someone who this would be right up their ally.
I don’t want to fall down the rabbit hole in an attempt to find a valid source, but can somebody briefly explain how ivermectin even came up as a possible off-label treatment for COVID?
I don’t want to fall down the rabbit hole in an attempt to find a valid source, but can somebody briefly explain how ivermectin even came up as a possible off-label treatment for COVID?
There is a clip in this article and Maddow does mention a study involving ivermectin that has since been withdrawn because the data was faked. Not sure how we got from there to Fox News actively pushing ivermectin as a treatment.
I don't know anything else about the study or if anyone involved would benefit from ivermectin sales, but at this point I would not be surprised.
I don’t want to fall down the rabbit hole in an attempt to find a valid source, but can somebody briefly explain how ivermectin even came up as a possible off-label treatment for COVID?
Sawbones podcast had an episode about this maybe a month or so ago.
I don’t want to fall down the rabbit hole in an attempt to find a valid source, but can somebody briefly explain how ivermectin even came up as a possible off-label treatment for COVID?
There is a clip in this article and Maddow does mention a study involving ivermectin that has since been withdrawn because the data was faked. Not sure how we got from there to Fox News actively pushing ivermectin as a treatment.
I don't know anything else about the study or if anyone involved would benefit from ivermectin sales, but at this point I would not be surprised.
Between the links from this article and the ones posted above about the people suing the hospitals, I have pieced together that there was a paper from Egypt about it that has since been retracted. There is a doctor in the Dominican Republic claiming that it has lowered COVID counts in part of that country. There are scant reports of doctors in other countries having used it. Merck, the maker of the drug (the human version I assume), put out a statement back in February that the drug is not for treating COVID. I'm reading it's available in generic form and I don't think Merck makes generics. So there could be some other source behind it trying to push sales like you suspect.
Post by neverfstop on Aug 30, 2021 18:46:02 GMT -5
I think it all goes back to the "us vs. them" war on (Everything???) the conservatives are trying to have. They keep yelling "we have this one thing that will save you & help you, and COVID isn't that bad if you just try this <bullshit>" They keep reeling their followers along to convince them 1- covid isn't a big deal (just like the flu!) 2- isn't that bad (only old people die!) 3- the medical establishment is lying (they were wrong about masks!) 4- Just use this bleach/antibody/de-wormer and you will be fine, no need to go to a hospital
There is a clip in this article and Maddow does mention a study involving ivermectin that has since been withdrawn because the data was faked. Not sure how we got from there to Fox News actively pushing ivermectin as a treatment.
I don't know anything else about the study or if anyone involved would benefit from ivermectin sales, but at this point I would not be surprised.
……I'm reading it's available in generic form and I don't think Merck makes generics. So there could be some other source behind it trying to push sales like you suspect.
Which politicians own stock in Merck? My guess only is those pushing this as a “treatment” option.
……I'm reading it's available in generic form and I don't think Merck makes generics. So there could be some other source behind it trying to push sales like you suspect.
Which politicians own stock in Merck? My guess only is those pushing this as a “treatment” option.
It doesn't just have to be Merck since there are other companies manufacturing the generic form of this medication. We've seen troubling unethical issues involving generics and making lots of money come to light in the recent past, epi-pens and Pharma Bro come to mind, so it wouldn't be shocking if it happened here either.
Right now, i just want them all to go get their fish tabs, crush them, and snort them, and then chase it with some ivermectin that they wash down with a large glass full of bleach. Let's be done with it already.
I think it all goes back to the "us vs. them" war on (Everything???) the conservatives are trying to have. They keep yelling "we have this one thing that will save you & help you, and COVID isn't that bad if you just try this <bullshit>" They keep reeling their followers along to convince them 1- covid isn't a big deal (just like the flu!) 2- isn't that bad (only old people die!) 3- the medical establishment is lying (they were wrong about masks!) 4- Just use this bleach/antibody/de-wormer and you will be fine, no need to go to a hospital
This is what happens when you wage a decades-long war on expertise and education in order to attract uneducated voters so you can perpetuate your power by defunding education. And by you I mean the GOP.