I have to admit a large part of my decision to vaccinate my young children isn’t due to fear of them having a severe Covid case as statistically that isn’t very likely still- (whereas my fear of them giving their 78 year old Grammy Covid and what the repercussions of that could be have weighed heavily and influenced much of our behavior)
A lot of my reason for doing so is that I want them to receive their education without disruption. I’m assuming/hoping that providing proof of Covid vaccination will mean my kids won’t have to miss a week of school whenever they get a cold.
This morning I called the school and asked if they had received the fax of my 4th grade daughters negative Covid test, they said yes. I said now that she’s had two negative home tests and a negative pcr can she attend school today despite still having cold symptoms. They said “no. If she is coughing the teacher will only send her to the nurse and then you will have to come get her.”
Since she hasn’t attended school in a week at this point, I made a pediatrician appointment. They said yes, she has a cold. Sometimes colds do last two weeks. And I’m like yes I know!! That’s what I keep trying to tell the school. The doctor wrote a note saying she has been examined, covid tested, and may return to school as long as she is fever free. So I sent that to the school nurse. She’s never registered a fever the entire week, as I told the nurse. She is just very congested and it’s causing a phlegmy cough.
Sorry for the rant! I’m just a little irritated I guess and I really don’t want to deal with this all winter every time one of my kids gets a cold.
Are they not doing test and stay for systematic kids and staff? I'm surprised by all this sending her home.
I have to admit a large part of my decision to vaccinate my young children isn’t due to fear of them having a severe Covid case as statistically that isn’t very likely still- (whereas my fear of them giving their 78 year old Grammy Covid and what the repercussions of that could be have weighed heavily and influenced much of our behavior)
A lot of my reason for doing so is that I want them to receive their education without disruption. I’m assuming/hoping that providing proof of Covid vaccination will mean my kids won’t have to miss a week of school whenever they get a cold.
This morning I called the school and asked if they had received the fax of my 4th grade daughters negative Covid test, they said yes. I said now that she’s had two negative home tests and a negative pcr can she attend school today despite still having cold symptoms. They said “no. If she is coughing the teacher will only send her to the nurse and then you will have to come get her.”
Since she hasn’t attended school in a week at this point, I made a pediatrician appointment. They said yes, she has a cold. Sometimes colds do last two weeks. And I’m like yes I know!! That’s what I keep trying to tell the school. The doctor wrote a note saying she has been examined, covid tested, and may return to school as long as she is fever free. So I sent that to the school nurse. She’s never registered a fever the entire week, as I told the nurse. She is just very congested and it’s causing a phlegmy cough.
Sorry for the rant! I’m just a little irritated I guess and I really don’t want to deal with this all winter every time one of my kids gets a cold.
Are they not doing test and stay for systematic kids and staff? I'm surprised by all this sending her home.
What I have heard is test and stay is for close contacts only, not for symptomatic kids. So basically if a kid on either side of her in the class tested positive they would then give her one of the tests for the “test and stay” program?
The communication hasn’t been great on this to be honest but we did opt in to test and stay by filling in the form.
Are they not doing test and stay for systematic kids and staff? I'm surprised by all this sending her home.
What I have heard is test and stay is for close contacts only, not for symptomatic kids. So basically if a kid on either side of her in the class tested positive they would then give her one of the tests for the “test and stay” program?
The communication hasn’t been great on this to be honest but we did opt in to test and stay by filling in the form.
Ah. My district is also testing kids if they become systematic during the day. But I think that varies from town to town.
I have to admit a large part of my decision to vaccinate my young children isn’t due to fear of them having a severe Covid case as statistically that isn’t very likely still- (whereas my fear of them giving their 78 year old Grammy Covid and what the repercussions of that could be have weighed heavily and influenced much of our behavior)
A lot of my reason for doing so is that I want them to receive their education without disruption. I’m assuming/hoping that providing proof of Covid vaccination will mean my kids won’t have to miss a week of school whenever they get a cold.
This morning I called the school and asked if they had received the fax of my 4th grade daughters negative Covid test, they said yes. I said now that she’s had two negative home tests and a negative pcr can she attend school today despite still having cold symptoms. They said “no. If she is coughing the teacher will only send her to the nurse and then you will have to come get her.”
Since she hasn’t attended school in a week at this point, I made a pediatrician appointment. They said yes, she has a cold. Sometimes colds do last two weeks. And I’m like yes I know!! That’s what I keep trying to tell the school. The doctor wrote a note saying she has been examined, covid tested, and may return to school as long as she is fever free. So I sent that to the school nurse. She’s never registered a fever the entire week, as I told the nurse. She is just very congested and it’s causing a phlegmy cough.
Sorry for the rant! I’m just a little irritated I guess and I really don’t want to deal with this all winter every time one of my kids gets a cold.
My MIL offered (and I accepted) to take DS2 this week because he was exposed at daycare on Friday to a covid+ staff member and the daycare center is shut down for 1.5 weeks. My primary concern about covid at this point is that he will pass it to DS1, who will then miss a couple weeks of school. I know it's not the end of the world, but it makes me really anxious to think of him missing class because of this.
I want my kids vaccinated so I can stop being stressed out about them being exposed and having to be home for extended periods of time. I'm just really *done* with "is it a cold or is it covid." I've been responsible and I've done everything right to protect other people. I'm going to stop worrying about it so much once kids are eligible for vaccines.
What your school is putting you through is absurd!
Post by seeyalater52 on Oct 12, 2021 21:04:13 GMT -5
It will surprise no one that I have basically negative amounts of sympathy for anyone who has vague “fertility” concerns related to the vaccine. Honestly go fuck yourself. I have some amount of understanding for people who are deep into infertility and/or pregnancy loss because I know how hard you reach to find answers for the unanswerable and the truly insane things you do out of fear or superstition - but even then, every fertility specialist worth a lick is strongly encouraging the vaccine for patients in active treatment so large-scale refusal just isn’t a thing there.
If we are basing this all on random anecdotes and woo, I personally know several people who had recurrent losses prior to getting vaccinated and then successful (so far in 2nd and 3rd trimester) pregnancies after getting vaccinated. Maybe the vaccine CURES infertility?!
It will surprise no one that I have basically negative amounts of sympathy for anyone who has vague “fertility” concerns related to the vaccine. Honestly go fuck yourself. I have some amount of understanding for people who are deep into infertility and/or pregnancy loss because I know how hard you reach to find answers for the unanswerable and the truly insane things you do out of fear or superstition - but even then, every fertility specialist worth a lick is strongly encouraging the vaccine for patients in active treatment so large-scale refusal just isn’t a thing there.
If we are basing this all on random anecdotes and woo, I personally know several people who had recurrent losses prior to getting vaccinated and then successful (so far in 2nd and 3rd trimester) pregnancies after getting vaccinated. Maybe the vaccine CURES infertility?!
I am pretty angry that my sister is using this as some vague reason to not get vaccinated. There is literally no reason for her to be concerned about this. And I know for a fact that she has done zero "research," nor has she talked to a doctor. It's infuriating.
I sent my mom that NHS article this morning and said "so, she's not gonna get vaccinated, will get pregnant, end up in the hospital because she's unvaccinated, and potentially die or lose her baby, all because she had some vague, non-specific concern about fertility? Seems legit."
But I'm trying not to let it take up space in my head because if she wants to be stupid about it, that's her prerogative. She doesn't have to be physically part of our lives if that's the choice she's going to make.
I don't understand how someone trying to get pregnant can be concerned about undocumented possible fertility effects but ignore the known and documented high risks of covid while pregnant.
I’m a labor and delivery nurse, and we give the regeneron infusions on our floor to pregnant women.
A) every one I’ve given has been to an unvaccinated person.
And b) they’re all very nervous to get the infusions because “what about the baby?” And we have to have a whole conversation about the reason pregnant women are recommended for the infusion is because this round of covid is dangerous for them and their baby. And they just don’t get it.
ETA: I’m not discounting people wondering how it will affect their baby.
But like, there’s so much evidence that covid during pregnancy is very dangerous. And your OB recommended the infusion and went through this with you. I think they’re looking for the nurse to say “you know, I don’t trust this either, and wouldn’t get it if it was me.”
(I do live in a fairly rural part of Nebraska. Soooo)
Post by chilerellanos on Oct 13, 2021 8:09:06 GMT -5
Well, I have to take my 15 yo to get tested today.
We’ve been legitimately so careful this whole thing, but her and her bf went to homecoming this past weekend. And now she has symptoms.
This is the first time in all of this she has had to be tested, so I mean, it sucks she did one higher risk activity (I mean, she goes to school and works and stuff, but she wears a mask at those and is vaccinated) and then gets sick.
How unfair because so many people just go off and live their lives like we aren’t in a pandemic.
Well, I have to take my 15 yo to get tested today.
We’ve been legitimately so careful this whole thing, but her and her bf went to homecoming this past weekend. And now she has symptoms.
This is the first time in all of this she has had to be tested, so I mean, it sucks she did one higher risk activity (I mean, she goes to school and works and stuff, but she wears a mask at those and is vaccinated) and then gets sick.
How unfair because so many people just go off and live their lives like we aren’t in a pandemic.
I'm sorry. The first test is so stressful and scary, but wow that you guys made it this far without having to test yet! That's amazing.
Colds are going around like crazy now that everyone is getting back to "normal". DD1 has had 2 tests in the last week, both negative. Fingers crossed its the same for your DD.
Well, I have to take my 15 yo to get tested today.
We’ve been legitimately so careful this whole thing, but her and her bf went to homecoming this past weekend. And now she has symptoms.
This is the first time in all of this she has had to be tested, so I mean, it sucks she did one higher risk activity (I mean, she goes to school and works and stuff, but she wears a mask at those and is vaccinated) and then gets sick.
How unfair because so many people just go off and live their lives like we aren’t in a pandemic.
I'm sorry. The first test is so stressful and scary, but wow that you guys made it this far without having to test yet! That's amazing.
Colds are going around like crazy now that everyone is getting back to "normal". DD1 has had 2 tests in the last week, both negative. Fingers crossed its the same for your DD.
I’m not really that concerned if she has it (there’s no school tomorrow or Friday and she can do her program online very easily).
And while she doesn’t feel very well, I feel confident she will be ok.
I mean, I knew going to the homecoming dance was a risk. But it’s really hard to not let them have any of those experiences! Shes 15, and this is her first boyfriend and I mean, it’s a big deal for them.
Post by Velar Fricative on Oct 13, 2021 8:28:59 GMT -5
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
Our schools didn't start until 9/13, and my Pre-K kid had half days the whole first week. Then my other kid's class shut down for a bit, and so I feel like we only got back into our pre-covid routine on 9/27, two weeks ago. We finally have aftercare again this year so I've been taking full advantage. I realized last night that getting back into our old routine is harder than I expected. I typically pick up the kids by around 5:00, DH comes home by around 5:15-5:30, so I need to get back into easy and quick dinner routines (with picky children), but also the homework thing is really getting on my last damn nerve because there was zero homework last year and that was glorious. DD1 can do her homework in aftercare, but we still have to check and she still has to correct. And DD2 has some occasional projects, simple ones like "cut out some pictures and send in with your kid in the morning" but then that work falls on us while we're also trying to clean up, get the kids bathed, etc....and I just forgot how much of a sprint weekday evenings are. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for normalcy and hated working from home but I realized I didn't exactly miss the sprint.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
Our schools didn't start until 9/13, and my Pre-K kid had half days the whole first week. Then my other kid's class shut down for a bit, and so I feel like we only got back into our pre-covid routine on 9/27, two weeks ago. We finally have aftercare again this year so I've been taking full advantage. I realized last night that getting back into our old routine is harder than I expected. I typically pick up the kids by around 5:00, DH comes home by around 5:15-5:30, so I need to get back into easy and quick dinner routines (with picky children), but also the homework thing is really getting on my last damn nerve because there was zero homework last year and that was glorious. DD1 can do her homework in aftercare, but we still have to check and she still has to correct. And DD2 has some occasional projects, simple ones like "cut out some pictures and send in with your kid in the morning" but then that work falls on us while we're also trying to clean up, get the kids bathed, etc....and I just forgot how much of a sprint weekday evenings are. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for normalcy and hated working from home but I realized I didn't exactly miss the sprint.
It's pretty rough at this house, but thankfully my middle schooler is fairly self sufficient. Still - the work week is just a giant buzz. He has soccer 3 days a week, so I run home, try and whip up something quick for dinner and then either drive or send him via carpool. If he has homework, I hope he does it when he gets home from school (he rides the bus so is home for about 2 hours before me) or we stay up late doing it. It's honestly made me resent the 8-5 grind a bit after doing without it for a year, and I'm struggling a bit.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
Our schools didn't start until 9/13, and my Pre-K kid had half days the whole first week. Then my other kid's class shut down for a bit, and so I feel like we only got back into our pre-covid routine on 9/27, two weeks ago. We finally have aftercare again this year so I've been taking full advantage. I realized last night that getting back into our old routine is harder than I expected. I typically pick up the kids by around 5:00, DH comes home by around 5:15-5:30, so I need to get back into easy and quick dinner routines (with picky children), but also the homework thing is really getting on my last damn nerve because there was zero homework last year and that was glorious. DD1 can do her homework in aftercare, but we still have to check and she still has to correct. And DD2 has some occasional projects, simple ones like "cut out some pictures and send in with your kid in the morning" but then that work falls on us while we're also trying to clean up, get the kids bathed, etc....and I just forgot how much of a sprint weekday evenings are. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for normalcy and hated working from home but I realized I didn't exactly miss the sprint.
DH is back onsite but I'm still WFH and I feel like we're... not optimal right now. My kitchen is in mid-renovation hell so we're not eating well because I can't really cook, lots of tater tots/boxed mac and cheese/frozen nuggets meals.. too many kid activities.. we're all up too late showering/doing required reading etc.
The full brunt of having 3 in elementary is SO intense and I wasn't ready for it to snap back to "normal". Every day there's someone I need to venmo for something or a special day that requires dressing up or field trip that requires a packed lunch = translating into me going to the grocery at 6 this morning because we have nothing to pack a lunch and getting an email from my 11 year old at school because I forgot to set up the ewallet for the book fair and she's headed there in 10 minutes. I'd like to get ahead but I can't seem to.. I'm all tapped out.
Post by chilerellanos on Oct 13, 2021 9:52:38 GMT -5
To answer the question above,
Idk, I feel like my situation is totally different.
I’ve worked outside the house the whole time (I’m a nurse).
I’m a single mom, but my youngest is 15.
Things are hectic, but like a normal hectic because other than her school, nothing else was really affected.
I am working SO MUCH right now. I just signed a contract where I will work a minimum of 4 shifts per week until the first week of July. It comes with a pay premium. Which is nice because I’ve been working 4-6 shifts a week since….. May with no pay premium. And I’m rotating nights and days.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
My kid is 13 so basically a fully functioning human but it's definitely rough having to leave the house at 6:40 AM to drop her at school and then go into the office vs. us both rolling out of bed at 7:29 and her attending virtual school while I WFH. I HATE the commute even more than I used to now that I've experienced not having to do it. It was so nice to be able to throw a load of laundry in the wash or do the dishes throughout the day. Our house is definitely neglected, and I'm sure our velcro cat spends the whole day staring at the door waiting for us to return.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
My kid is 13 so basically a fully functioning human but it's definitely rough having to leave the house at 6:40 AM to drop her at school and then go into the office vs. us both rolling out of bed at 7:29 and her attending virtual school while I WFH. I HATE the commute even more than I used to now that I've experienced not having to do it. It was so nice to be able to throw a load of laundry in the wash or do the dishes throughout the day. Our house is definitely neglected, and I'm sure our velcro cat spends the whole day staring at the door waiting for us to return.
Post by Velar Fricative on Oct 13, 2021 10:26:37 GMT -5
DD1's birthday party with a bunch of classmates is at a local park on Saturday afternoon. Of course there is rain in the forecast, but not a steady rain from what I can see so far; more like stray showers. We did put a raindate of the next day on the invitation but I reallllllly want to try my best to have this party on Saturday. I have noticed forecasts not being accurate until the night before (we had her family party a couple of weeks ago the same park and things changed even the morning of in the forecast), but I also want people to come if the rain is still predicted. Maybe I'll look to see if tent rentals are available, but then I'll be annoyed at paying that expense if it ends up not raining.
If we are basing this all on random anecdotes and woo, I personally know several people who had recurrent losses prior to getting vaccinated and then successful (so far in 2nd and 3rd trimester) pregnancies after getting vaccinated. Maybe the vaccine CURES infertility?!
I also know a couple who had trouble before vaccine (needed intervention) and had success without an intervention post vaccine. So yes, if we are wildly speculating, it might as well be the other way.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
Our schools didn't start until 9/13, and my Pre-K kid had half days the whole first week. Then my other kid's class shut down for a bit, and so I feel like we only got back into our pre-covid routine on 9/27, two weeks ago. We finally have aftercare again this year so I've been taking full advantage. I realized last night that getting back into our old routine is harder than I expected. I typically pick up the kids by around 5:00, DH comes home by around 5:15-5:30, so I need to get back into easy and quick dinner routines (with picky children), but also the homework thing is really getting on my last damn nerve because there was zero homework last year and that was glorious. DD1 can do her homework in aftercare, but we still have to check and she still has to correct. And DD2 has some occasional projects, simple ones like "cut out some pictures and send in with your kid in the morning" but then that work falls on us while we're also trying to clean up, get the kids bathed, etc....and I just forgot how much of a sprint weekday evenings are. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for normalcy and hated working from home but I realized I didn't exactly miss the sprint.
Yeah, we're feeling it too, for all the reasons you mentioned. I have a great schedule so I'm home early most days, but it's also filled with running errands, shopping, etc.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
I've been working back in person since June 2020. But we had a nanny and were still e-learning and there weren't a lot of activities.
School is fine, still less events, but we have soccer, cub scouts and girl scouts. Cub scouts is intense because they usually pack everything into fall, and it is his last year before Boy Scouts. DS does homework at school (yay!) and DD does her homework before I get home.
DH is still working from home though, and that helps a lot. He is "aftercare" which consists of him just ignoring the kids basically from 3:45-5 when I get home.
But, he seems to think that we will never do aftercare again, and I am not so sure. Kids are 11 and DD will be 9 in January, so yeah maybe after this school year they don't need aftercare? But then next year we have to figure out all the middle school stuff.
ETA- I do want to say being in school is a million times better than elearning.
The effects on unvaccinated pregnant people can be so bad and it's so hard to see it and see people still not getting vaccinated. In my 12 years working in postpartum/L&D as a nurse, I could count on one, maybe two hands the number of women I've seen intubated due to flu or other respiratory virus, until last year. Now we have someone in our critical care area intubated with covid every fucking week, for the past year and a half. A couple months ago we would have 3 or 4 at a time, one night we had like 8 of 12 patients in our labor floor covid positive. There have been patients hospitalized for MONTHS, young women on ECMO for weeks and who basically need a lung transplant now and will never be the same. And still we get people every day who still won't get vaccinated. The frustration and empathy burnout is very real.
The effects on unvaccinated pregnant people can be so bad and it's so hard to see it and see people still not getting vaccinated. In my 12 years working in postpartum/L&D as a nurse, I could count on one, maybe two hands the number of women I've seen intubated due to flu or other respiratory virus, until last year. Now we have someone in our critical care area intubated with covid every fucking week, for the past year and a half. A couple months ago we would have 3 or 4 at a time, one night we had like 8 of 12 patients in our labor floor covid positive. There have been patients hospitalized for MONTHS, young women on ECMO for weeks and who basically need a lung transplant now and will never be the same. And still we get people every day who still won't get vaccinated. The frustration and empathy burnout is very real.
And a lot of cardiomyopathy!
And our rates of preeclampsia have severe hypertension have gone way up.
So even if they’re not getting respiratory symptoms, it’s definitely affecting all of their organs!
If we are basing this all on random anecdotes and woo, I personally know several people who had recurrent losses prior to getting vaccinated and then successful (so far in 2nd and 3rd trimester) pregnancies after getting vaccinated. Maybe the vaccine CURES infertility?!
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
I have been back in the routine for so long that I'm used to it again. I went back to the office in July 2020, and have been back ever since, with the exception of quarantines/etc. DS has been in daycare for the same, near my office. DD did in person K last year, and is doing in person 1st this year.
It's the usual sprint, but dotted with the periodic "oops we had an exposed kid so we suddenly don't have childcare for a week or two, starting NOW." It would be more bearable if we weren't so freaking worn down from the unpredictability and stress of the last 1.5 year. It's like we have one foot in the normal world and one foot firmly in covid world. The straddling two worlds is what breaks me. Work expects things to be business as usual, starting to talk about travel again... and then there's daycare/school, who are like, I think your kid inhaled funny, and it could've been a sniffle. You need to come pick him/her up immediately, and not come back until they're cleared. I can't be everywhere.
Covid rates here have not dropped the way they have elsewhere in the country, we've been hovering at an infection rate of like 1.00-1.05 for weeks now. I'm glad to hear rates are dropping elsewhere, but I'm weary of not seeing that happen near me. The light in the tunnel feels far away, especially with one of my kids under 5.
Post by 1confused1 on Oct 13, 2021 15:35:24 GMT -5
I don’t know if this is specific to my area or California in general, but some parents are organizing a student walk out on October 18 to protest vaccine mandates for schools. These are all the same parents who were screaming get my kids back in school no matter what. I think I hurt myself rolling my eyes.
I don’t know if this is specific to my area or California in general, but some parents are organizing a student walk out on October 18 to protest vaccine mandates for schools. These are all the same parents who were screaming get my kids back in school no matter what. I think I hurt myself rolling my eyes.
I just saw someone I know post this on fb.
Also, someone I know is moving from California back to Nebraska because of this.
I don’t know if this is specific to my area or California in general, but some parents are organizing a student walk out on October 18 to protest vaccine mandates for schools. These are all the same parents who were screaming get my kids back in school no matter what. I think I hurt myself rolling my eyes.
I have heard about it in a general sense, but not in our district specifically. Out of 10,000 families, we have about 50 who are vocally anti-mask, but most of them have also been quick to point out that they are vaccinated. Vaccination rates are very high in our city, including teens. I am curious if more walkouts are planned for areas where vaccination rates overall are lower? Like where I work, I would not be surprised.
I have to admit a large part of my decision to vaccinate my young children isn’t due to fear of them having a severe Covid case as statistically that isn’t very likely still- (whereas my fear of them giving their 78 year old Grammy Covid and what the repercussions of that could be have weighed heavily and influenced much of our behavior)
A lot of my reason for doing so is that I want them to receive their education without disruption. I’m assuming/hoping that providing proof of Covid vaccination will mean my kids won’t have to miss a week of school whenever they get a cold.
This morning I called the school and asked if they had received the fax of my 4th grade daughters negative Covid test, they said yes. I said now that she’s had two negative home tests and a negative pcr can she attend school today despite still having cold symptoms. They said “no. If she is coughing the teacher will only send her to the nurse and then you will have to come get her.”
Since she hasn’t attended school in a week at this point, I made a pediatrician appointment. They said yes, she has a cold. Sometimes colds do last two weeks. And I’m like yes I know!! That’s what I keep trying to tell the school. The doctor wrote a note saying she has been examined, covid tested, and may return to school as long as she is fever free. So I sent that to the school nurse. She’s never registered a fever the entire week, as I told the nurse. She is just very congested and it’s causing a phlegmy cough.
Sorry for the rant! I’m just a little irritated I guess and I really don’t want to deal with this all winter every time one of my kids gets a cold.
Are they not doing test and stay for systematic kids and staff? I'm surprised by all this sending her home.
A fair amount of school districts (including my DS') are definitely not doing any test to stay. None. Zip. Zero. Not for students. Not for staff. Covid is over because they deemed it so. Yet we can't send our kids back to school with a cough or even a tiny hint of a runny nose. The vaccine can't get here fast enough in my red city.