Are they not doing test and stay for systematic kids and staff? I'm surprised by all this sending her home.
A fair amount of school districts (including my DS') are definitely not doing any test to stay. None. Zip. Zero. Not for students. Not for staff. Covid is over because they deemed it so. Yet we can't send our kids back to school with a cough or even a tiny hint of a runny nose. The vaccine can't get here fast enough in my red city.
That's too bad. Laura and I are both in Mass where most are doing test and stay. It's great for keeping close contacts and some random symptomatic people in the bldg.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
I have been back in the routine for so long that I'm used to it again. I went back to the office in July 2020, and have been back ever since, with the exception of quarantines/etc. DS has been in daycare for the same, near my office. DD did in person K last year, and is doing in person 1st this year.
It's the usual sprint, but dotted with the periodic "oops we had an exposed kid so we suddenly don't have childcare for a week or two, starting NOW." It would be more bearable if we weren't so freaking worn down from the unpredictability and stress of the last 1.5 year. It's like we have one foot in the normal world and one foot firmly in covid world. The straddling two worlds is what breaks me. Work expects things to be business as usual, starting to talk about travel again... and then there's daycare/school, who are like, I think your kid inhaled funny, and it could've been a sniffle. You need to come pick him/her up immediately, and not come back until they're cleared. I can't be everywhere.
Covid rates here have not dropped the way they have elsewhere in the country, we've been hovering at an infection rate of like 1.00-1.05 for weeks now. I'm glad to hear rates are dropping elsewhere, but I'm weary of not seeing that happen near me. The light in the tunnel feels far away, especially with one of my kids under 5.
I could have written this entire post. I am just so done with living in these two worlds.
Work is all "let's have a 50 person in-person conference literally right before kids are eligible for vaccines" and "hey, save the date for the holiday party; it's going to be held inside and even the unvaccinated are welcome without masks!" While simultaneously I get a call that our entire fucking daycare center is shutdown for 10 days.
I can't deal anymore.
eta: Aaaaand we just tested DS2, who is now positive for covid. Just fuck everything.
I am trying not to saying something shitty to my unvaccinated sister, who works in a daycare, given that he got this from a daycare staff member (not sure if they were vaxxed or not).
The effects on unvaccinated pregnant people can be so bad and it's so hard to see it and see people still not getting vaccinated. In my 12 years working in postpartum/L&D as a nurse, I could count on one, maybe two hands the number of women I've seen intubated due to flu or other respiratory virus, until last year. Now we have someone in our critical care area intubated with covid every fucking week, for the past year and a half. A couple months ago we would have 3 or 4 at a time, one night we had like 8 of 12 patients in our labor floor covid positive. There have been patients hospitalized for MONTHS, young women on ECMO for weeks and who basically need a lung transplant now and will never be the same. And still we get people every day who still won't get vaccinated. The frustration and empathy burnout is very real.
I’m so sorry
I ran into a nurse acquaintance at the beginning of the school year when our numbers were awful. She had been pulled onto the covid floor for a short time when covid first started. I don’t know details, but she does have an autoimmune that made her worried about getting COVID but she felt confident enough in precautions at that point. When I spoke to her in august, she told me she was quitting her job if she was asked to return To the Covid floor. She said she had absolutely no empathy left and she couldn’t be a nurse to people because she didn’t really care if they lived or died…because their actions had shown that they didn’t care if she lived or died I felt terrible for her.
Oh no isabel . Was he feeling poorly? Poor guy, poor mom.
He has a slightly stuffy nose, but otherwise feels totally fine. He is five days post-exposure from a positive staff member at his daycare, so I had been testing him basically every other day since I found out on Sunday.
I am very hopeful that his symptoms won't get worse, but it's so hard to tell with this thing.
Post by maddiepaddy on Oct 13, 2021 21:58:38 GMT -5
Well, we’re finally having our first Covid scare. My Vaxxed H is a close contact. Yesterday he spent 45 mins unmasked (wtf) in a lab with a vaxxed student who just got a + today.
We have been juggling two (albeit flexible) full time jobs and keeping our now 14 month alive without any help since she was born. We’ve made it this far, I am gonna be SO pissed if kiddo ends up getting sick.
H is now relegated to the basement and I’m apparently parenting alone for the next few days. We’ll have H test at 3 days and then again at 5. Fingers crossed he stays symptom free. If so, do you think it’s safe for him to be around kiddo (masked) with a negative test at three days post exposure?
Well, we’re finally having our first Covid scare. My Vaxxed H is a close contact. Yesterday he spent 45 mins unmasked (wtf) in a lab with a vaxxed student who just got a + today.
We have been juggling two (albeit flexible) full time jobs and keeping our now 14 month alive without any help since she was born. We’ve made it this far, I am gonna be SO pissed if kiddo ends up getting sick.
H is now relegated to the basement and I’m apparently parenting alone for the next few days. We’ll have H test at 3 days and then again at 5. Fingers crossed he stays symptom free. If so, do you think it’s safe for him to be around kiddo (masked) with a negative test at three days post exposure?
To be fair, all the guidelines say that two vaxxed people can be unmasked inside. We do it at work sometimes (though we are pretty distanced).
That said, I would be cautious with a little one. I’d wait until a negative test 5 days post exposure.
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
Well, I just put together a Plan of the Week powerpoint slide to stick on the fridge to specifically show who is teleworking, who is in the office, and which kid has an activity and who is picking them up. We're just so far out of the routine on people leaving the house, and a lot of these things aren't consistently the same week to week. Ugh.
I feel like we've been really lucky that neither kid has been a close contact (and DD is vaccinated), so we haven't had to do that dance yet. Homework for both has been pretty minimal, and it sounds like it will stay that way. I had settled back into the morning routine with the kids (though lordy, DD having to be up and out the door at 6:40 for the bus hurts after a year and a half of rolling out of bed at 6:55 to log into work at 7), but DH got home from a seven week work trip last weekend and now he's throwing us off, lol. Still trying to figure out how I keep up with workouts on days I go into the office without totally screwing up the evening routine, I've ben mostly successful but I feel like it's go go go until I fall into bed and pass out at 9:45.
Post by landmermaid on Oct 14, 2021 9:18:06 GMT -5
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern? I realize the chances of dying are very low for my kids (and I thank my lucky stars every day) but I'm terrified of the potential for a lifelong or future complication that seems like a much higher possibility.
I've been extremely covid cautious, and I'm fine admitting I'm afraid, so maybe it's not that much of a concern anymore? All I hear about is dying (which is the ultimate fear), but I feel like long covid isn't mentioned in discussions about kids.
I'm sorry everyone dealing with scares and positives.
RE: routine. We sort of have a morning routine, but I don't have a consistent schedule for when I am WFH or not. There is pressure for me to go into the office, but it doesn't feel safe. No one is masked. I still workout at home, and I've forced myself to get up early on the days I've gone into work, but I hate it. I prefer noon, and often will WFH in the morning, then go into the office in the afternoon. I don't live far from my office so its not a big deal to go back and forth.
Since spring, when sports started back up, we have had a sport practice or game nearly every day of the week. Its rough now that DS has math homework almost every night, so they are getting to bed later than I would like. So basically, H and I have an hour after the kids go to bed to do whatever we can around the house, eat dinner, or in his case, grade papers.
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern?
I'm concerned about it. It's a big motivator for us, too. Long term heart, lung or neurological effects are what worry me. The data is still coming in on those issues.
ETA: a friend's kid developed type one diabetes after covid and his doctor thinks it might have been related. Thankfully, those kind of incidents seem rare.
Kinda sorta covid related but not really. How are those of you with all parents back onsite for work full-time and kids going into school managing?
With J's work schedule most evenings fall on me and on any given school night I manage a very fine balance between having it together and losing my mind Basically I pick kids up at their respective sitters and we're home 5:15-5:30, then I have AJ get started on homework while I get dinner together. After we eat dinner I'll give him 15-20 minutes on the device of his choice before he has to finish the rest of his homework (he's 3rd grade so on any given night it's a combo of RAZ kids, 20 minutes of reading, ST Math, a math worksheet, and maybe running through addition facts or spelling words). Some nights this is all easy and some nights its a hot mess, especially if he needs help because I manage that while also trying to keep Z from destroying things or breaking something. If J is actually off he will help AJ with homework or keep Z out of trouble but that's not a frequent occurrence. On soccer practice nights (Tues and Thurs) I've starting having him do any non-digital homework so math worksheets and/or 20 minutes reading at the babysitter's so that it's less to do after he gets home from practice...sometimes he will do homework there on non-soccer nights but we haven't cracked down on that yet.
Some nights are better than others. AJ has always struggled with knowing when to ask for help-he will often ask for help before he's even tried to work out a problem (and to him, help=me telling him the answer), but other times doesn't say he needs help until he's so frustrated he's three quarters of the way to a meltdown. This is an ongoing thing and his teachers are helping with it as well but it can make things difficult. Thankfully academically he's doing probably the best he's ever done, and I really think it's due to being back in school full time.
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern? I realize the chances of dying are very low for my kids (and I thank my lucky stars every day) but I'm terrified of the potential for a lifelong or future complication that seems like a much higher possibility.
I've been extremely covid cautious, and I'm fine admitting I'm afraid, so maybe it's not that much of a concern anymore? All I hear about is dying (which is the ultimate fear), but I feel like long covid isn't mentioned in discussions about kids.
Long Covid is still a thing. I think I’ve read as many as 1 in 3…BUT research is limited and what people consider “long Covid” is different. I’ve had Covid. I don’t consider myself to have long Covid (though taste and smell are still coming back). But if I were to take a questionnaire, they might consider it. I have headaches, fatigue, brain fog, and stomach upset from time to time…but I had them from time to time before Covid, too.
I do worry a little about issues popping up later. I know someone whose child just got a pretty nasty vascular diagnosis that the doctors think is related to Covid that she had recently (with minimal symptoms at the time). That’s very, VERY rare…but it still weighs on my mind. I ask myself, “Are we REALLY done with Covid? Or am I waiting for the other shoe to drop?” It’s just hard when there’s still so much that we don’t know.
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern? I realize the chances of dying are very low for my kids (and I thank my lucky stars every day) but I'm terrified of the potential for a lifelong or future complication that seems like a much higher possibility.
I've been extremely covid cautious, and I'm fine admitting I'm afraid, so maybe it's not that much of a concern anymore? All I hear about is dying (which is the ultimate fear), but I feel like long covid isn't mentioned in discussions about kids.
Not only is Long covid still a concern, but there are concerns that Covid could trigger auto immune diseases. It has long been assumed that most auto immune diseases are triggered by an infection, especially childhood infections I have MS, which I started having symptoms of not long after a pretty nasty case of second grade chickenpox. So, yeah, when news broke this summer that Delta was as contagious as chickenpox I about had a heart attack.
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern? I realize the chances of dying are very low for my kids (and I thank my lucky stars every day) but I'm terrified of the potential for a lifelong or future complication that seems like a much higher possibility.
I've been extremely covid cautious, and I'm fine admitting I'm afraid, so maybe it's not that much of a concern anymore? All I hear about is dying (which is the ultimate fear), but I feel like long covid isn't mentioned in discussions about kids.
Long Covid is still a thing. I think I’ve read as many as 1 in 3…BUT research is limited and what people consider “long Covid” is different. I’ve had Covid. I don’t consider myself to have long Covid (though taste and smell are still coming back). But if I were to take a questionnaire, they might consider it. I have headaches, fatigue, brain fog, and stomach upset from time to time…but I had them from time to time before Covid, too.
I do worry a little about issues popping up later. I know someone whose child just got a pretty nasty vascular diagnosis that the doctors think is related to Covid that she had recently (with minimal symptoms at the time). That’s very, VERY rare…but it still weighs on my mind. I ask myself, “Are we REALLY done with Covid? Or am I waiting for the other shoe to drop?” It’s just hard when there’s still so much that we don’t know.
Yeah, I've seen everything from "1 in 3" to "2 in 100" for Long COVID risk in kids. If they were saying the vaccine was 5 years off for little kids, I might not be so cautious, but even a 2 in 100 chance seems not worth risking compared to just waiting another 2-ish more months for indoor activities. I see a lot of people saying, "if not now, then when" this summer and even now, but we are SO CLOSE to them being at much lower risk than whatever the risk they are at now.
I guess my biggest worry and why I want my kids vaxxed as soon as possible is the fear of long covid. Is this still a concern?
I'm concerned about it. It's a big motivator for us, too. Long term heart, lung or neurological effects are what worry me. The data is still coming in on those issues.
ETA: a friend's kid developed type one diabetes after covid and his doctor thinks it might have been related. Thankfully, those kind of incidents seem rare.
This is me as well.
I myself am dealing with a life long disability (cerebral palsy) as well as epilepsy. If I can save my DS from life long health issues I will take all precautions necessary to do so. I had so many dr appts, PT appts, blood draws, hospital stays/surgeries as a kid & young adult. Even as an adult I have yearly neuro appts and daily meds to take. If I can save my DS from all of that I will.
He already has ASD. That's more than enough therapy & dr appts.
Sending good vibes to everyone dealing with a positive or a scare. It's such a mind f*&^.
DD had three positive cases in her classroom a few weeks ago. We had her tested three times over four days and all were negative (including PCR). That was the only thing that saved any portion of my sanity at all, but it really makes me feel like I am throwing my kid to the wolves. NINE kids out of 20 were out because of being positive or being a close contact. Craziness. But we escaped this time.
Like so many, I feel like we are so close to the end and I am just terrified of what can happen in the next few weeks before approval.
A family received COVID vaccines instead of flu shots by (alleged) mistake.
The adults had been fully vaccinated in the spring but the children aged 4 and 5 received adult doses, resulting in health issues, including cardiac issues.
I feel terrible for the family. I think this is the first year Walgreens was offering flu shots for pediatric patients.
A family received COVID vaccines instead of flu shots by (alleged) mistake.
The adults had been fully vaccinated in the spring but the children aged 4 and 5 received adult doses, resulting in health issues, including cardiac issues.
I feel terrible for the family. I think this is the first year Walgreens was offering flu shots for pediatric patients.
yeah glad i didn't read this before i took my kids to walgreens for our flu shots a few weeks ago :/ I hope those kids are okay.
Oh wow. I have flu shots for my kids scheduled with Walgreens because our pediatrician only had a few days of clinics they were offering them, and their appointments were all booked. They wouldn't allow us to make a separate appointment due to staffing shortages
A family received COVID vaccines instead of flu shots by (alleged) mistake.
The adults had been fully vaccinated in the spring but the children aged 4 and 5 received adult doses, resulting in health issues, including cardiac issues.
I feel terrible for the family. I think this is the first year Walgreens was offering flu shots for pediatric patients.
Caveat: this is awful and should never have happened. But when I read this, I immediately thought the adult dose was tested on plenty of kids. They went with the lower dose bc it was just as effective. Is that not correct?
A family received COVID vaccines instead of flu shots by (alleged) mistake.
The adults had been fully vaccinated in the spring but the children aged 4 and 5 received adult doses, resulting in health issues, including cardiac issues.
I feel terrible for the family. I think this is the first year Walgreens was offering flu shots for pediatric patients.
Caveat: this is awful and should never have happened. But when I read this, I immediately thought the adult was tested on plenty of kids. They went with the lower dose bc it was just as effective. Is that not correct?
I’m taking some of this story with a grain of salt. The idea that you got a shot on October 4th and by the 11th you had insight from a “pediatric cardiologist” is perhaps unlikely. It isn’t like pediatric cardiologists are just sitting there with a bunch of open appointments. This probably could only have happened if there kids were so sick that they took them to an ER of a major hospital.
So maybe, but maybe not. As someone with two kids with crazy diagnoses and deals with lots of pediatric specialists, this type of quick specialist intervention isn’t that common.
Caveat: this is awful and should never have happened. But when I read this, I immediately thought the adult was tested on plenty of kids. They went with the lower dose bc it was just as effective. Is that not correct?
I’m taking some of this story with a grain of salt. The idea that you got a shot on October 4th and by the 11th you had insight from a “pediatric cardiologist” is perhaps unlikely. It isn’t like pediatric cardiologists are just sitting there with a bunch of open appointments. This probably could only have happened if there kids were so sick that they took them to an ER of a major hospital.
So maybe, but maybe not. As someone with two kids with crazy diagnoses and deals with lots of pediatric specialists, this type of quick specialist intervention isn’t that common.
I think it’s possible only because they don’t really know what could happen if a 4/5-year-old got an adult dose of a new vaccine so I wouldn’t be surprised if the cardiologist wanted to see them.
Do we know if Pfizer actually tried the adult doses on kids as young as 4 or were they doing lower doses to begin with in trials?