Colin Powell died from covid

[Velar Fricative]

This needs its own separate thread away from the weekly COVID thread.

www.cbsnews.com/news/colin-powell-dies-84-first-black-secretary-of-state-covid-19/

[karinothing]

Poor guy, he seemed like he was in good health otherwise; although, I guess who really knows. Fully vaccinated too

[georgeglass]

I saw it and gasped. His son is the chairman of the board of the Mayo Clinic. You know they had access to any and all medical help. Goes to show how tough and cruel this disease can be. So sad.

[seeyalater52]

By my count every high profile Republican Party* death to date has been Black. Am I missing people? Such a stark illustration of the racial dynamics at play with covid. So sad, especially in this case when he was fully vaccinated.

*at this point he basically died a Democrat but you know what I’m saying I think

[hermione]

This is really scary. I also fear people will point to this and say, "See, why even get the vaccine?!"

[msmerymac]

I also gasped when I saw it - I got an Apple News notification on my watch. I didn't realize he was 84, but given that he was a Vietnam vet it makes sense.

One of the few Republicans of the 21st century I respected.

[Gato]

😳 I’m sorry to hear this.

On a personal note, this is going to freak my mom out. She’s just a few years younger and also fully vaccinated. Maybe she’ll wear a mask more often now.

[bears]

This is so sad.

Unfortunately, those on their 80s and 90s don't typically mount as strong of an immune response after vaccination as those who are younger.

[wanderingback]

Oct 18, 2021 7:24:59 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Poor guy, he seemed like he was in good health otherwise; although, I guess who really knows. Fully vaccinated too

Just FYI, he had been diagnosed with multiple myeloma in the past.
I generally hate the jump to "did X have any comorbid conditions?" but wanted to point that out. 84 is past life expectancy and he had a chronic condition It’s obviously sad for his family and friends nonetheless.

[penguingrrl]

How terribly sad. I genuinely admired him and know he wanted the best for everyone. What a great loss to our country. May his family feel peace.

[karinothing]

Oct 18, 2021 8:26:52 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oct 18, 2021 7:24:59 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Poor guy, he seemed like he was in good health otherwise; although, I guess who really knows. Fully vaccinated too

Just FYI, he had been diagnosed with multiple myeloma in the past.
I generally hate the jump to "did X have any comorbid conditions?" but wanted to point that out. 84 is past life expectancy and he had a chronic condition It’s obviously sad for his family and friends nonetheless.

Ah okay, I wasn't aware. Yes, very sad. My dad is one year older than him...he is vaccinated and will get a booster when he can, just tired of the worry.

[bears]

Oct 18, 2021 8:26:52 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oct 18, 2021 7:24:59 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Poor guy, he seemed like he was in good health otherwise; although, I guess who really knows. Fully vaccinated too

Just FYI, he had been diagnosed with multiple myeloma in the past.
I generally hate the jump to "did X have any comorbid conditions?" but wanted to point that out. 84 is past life expectancy and he had a chronic condition It’s obviously sad for his family and friends nonetheless.

Fox News is already on "let's talk about waning immunity from vaccinations because of Colin Powell." I'm just so annoyed. Older people don't respond as well to vaccinations. This is known. If we're so concerned about Colin Powell's death, let's talk about getting more people vaccinated to protect the elderly and immune compromised who will never have as much protection as the young/healthy!

[bears]

Oct 18, 2021 8:57:32 GMT -5 bears said:

Oct 18, 2021 8:26:52 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Just FYI, he had been diagnosed with multiple myeloma in the past.
I generally hate the jump to "did X have any comorbid conditions?" but wanted to point that out. 84 is past life expectancy and he had a chronic condition It’s obviously sad for his family and friends nonetheless.

Fox News is already on "let's talk about waning immunity from vaccinations because of Colin Powell." I'm just so annoyed. Older people don't respond as well to vaccinations. This is known. If we're so concerned about Colin Powell's death, let's talk about getting more people vaccinated to protect the elderly and immune compromised who will never have as much protection as the young/healthy!

Washington Post said it better than me: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/18/colin-powell-death-vaccination-importance/

[chilerellanos]

Oct 18, 2021 8:57:32 GMT -5 bears said:

Oct 18, 2021 8:26:52 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Just FYI, he had been diagnosed with multiple myeloma in the past.
I generally hate the jump to "did X have any comorbid conditions?" but wanted to point that out. 84 is past life expectancy and he had a chronic condition It’s obviously sad for his family and friends nonetheless.

Fox News is already on "let's talk about waning immunity from vaccinations because of Colin Powell." I'm just so annoyed. Older people don't respond as well to vaccinations. This is known. If we're so concerned about Colin Powell's death, let's talk about getting more people vaccinated to protect the elderly and immune compromised who will never have as much protection as the young/healthy!

We are trying to convince my grandma to get her booster. But she’s totally a Fox News watcher, and regrets getting her first two shots and feels like we bullied her into it.

Also, she says she’s healthy as a horse. I mean, she’s a fairly spry 85 yo. But she’s also 85! And has a history of colon cancer, a heart attack, and she’s so anemic she needs regular iron and blood transfusions.

So no, grandma, you’re not as healthy as you think.

[bears]

Oct 18, 2021 9:03:42 GMT -5 chilerellanos said:

Oct 18, 2021 8:57:32 GMT -5 bears said:

Fox News is already on "let's talk about waning immunity from vaccinations because of Colin Powell." I'm just so annoyed. Older people don't respond as well to vaccinations. This is known. If we're so concerned about Colin Powell's death, let's talk about getting more people vaccinated to protect the elderly and immune compromised who will never have as much protection as the young/healthy!

We are trying to convince my grandma to get her booster. But she’s totally a Fox News watcher, and regrets getting her first two shots and feels like we bullied her into it.

Also, she says she’s healthy as a horse. I mean, she’s a fairly spry 85 yo. But she’s also 85! And has a history of colon cancer, a heart attack, and she’s so anemic she needs regular iron and blood transfusions.

So no, grandma, you’re not as healthy as you think.

A 93 year old family friend died back in August of covid, despite being vaccinated. My mom hasn't told my sister he died, because mom can't deal with me sister going on about how vaccines don't work. Ugh.

[picksthemusic]

I'm sorry to hear this, he was such an important figure for our country. May he rest in peace.

[klee23]

I was a little surprised to wake up to this news this morning. I did not search prior articles but I thought when it was announced that he and his wife contracted COVID that she had a more serious case- I thought she was in ICU. he was in a "normal" medical bed; he was discharged to rehab while she was still hospitalized, etc. It just goes to show you how unpredictable COVID can be at times (thought his his PMH and age did not help as PP noted) and how much there is to learn about long COVID and post-acute COVID.

[pumpkin]

I was sad to wake up to this news. Definitely a loss.

[mbcdefg]

This virus is so awful and destructive, and it’s enraging that so many people just refuse to take it seriously.

[aurora]

Oct 18, 2021 9:02:45 GMT -5 bears said:

Oct 18, 2021 8:57:32 GMT -5 bears said:

Fox News is already on "let's talk about waning immunity from vaccinations because of Colin Powell." I'm just so annoyed. Older people don't respond as well to vaccinations. This is known. If we're so concerned about Colin Powell's death, let's talk about getting more people vaccinated to protect the elderly and immune compromised who will never have as much protection as the young/healthy!

Washington Post said it better than me: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/18/colin-powell-death-vaccination-importance/

Absolutely. The societal adoption of vaccines have saved so many lives by reducing spread.

[thedutchgirl]

Oct 18, 2021 9:51:05 GMT -5 klee23 said:

I was a little surprised to wake up to this news this morning. I did not search prior articles but I thought when it was announced that he and his wife contracted COVID that she had a more serious case- I thought she was in ICU. he was in a "normal" medical bed; he was discharged to rehab while she was still hospitalized, etc. It just goes to show you how unpredictable COVID can be at times (thought his his PMH and age did not help as PP noted) and how much there is to learn about long COVID and post-acute COVID.

Is it possible you are thinking of Jesse Jackson and his wife--he got much sicker than she did. He is home now, though.


abc7chicago.com/jesse-jackson-update-covid-wife-released-from-hospital/11037982/

[klee23]

Oct 18, 2021 12:11:03 GMT -5 thedutchgirl said:

Oct 18, 2021 9:51:05 GMT -5 klee23 said:

I was a little surprised to wake up to this news this morning. I did not search prior articles but I thought when it was announced that he and his wife contracted COVID that she had a more serious case- I thought she was in ICU. he was in a "normal" medical bed; he was discharged to rehab while she was still hospitalized, etc. It just goes to show you how unpredictable COVID can be at times (thought his his PMH and age did not help as PP noted) and how much there is to learn about long COVID and post-acute COVID.

Is it possible you are thinking of Jesse Jackson and his wife--he got much sicker than she did. He is home now, though.


abc7chicago.com/jesse-jackson-update-covid-wife-released-from-hospital/11037982/

I did, shame on me.

[wanderingback]

Oct 18, 2021 12:11:03 GMT -5 thedutchgirl said:

Oct 18, 2021 9:51:05 GMT -5 klee23 said:

I was a little surprised to wake up to this news this morning. I did not search prior articles but I thought when it was announced that he and his wife contracted COVID that she had a more serious case- I thought she was in ICU. he was in a "normal" medical bed; he was discharged to rehab while she was still hospitalized, etc. It just goes to show you how unpredictable COVID can be at times (thought his his PMH and age did not help as PP noted) and how much there is to learn about long COVID and post-acute COVID.

Is it possible you are thinking of Jesse Jackson and his wife--he got much sicker than she did. He is home now, though.


abc7chicago.com/jesse-jackson-update-covid-wife-released-from-hospital/11037982/

Oh wow!
All Black people are the same!

[thedutchgirl]

Oct 18, 2021 12:52:15 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oct 18, 2021 12:11:03 GMT -5 thedutchgirl said:

Is it possible you are thinking of Jesse Jackson and his wife--he got much sicker than she did. He is home now, though.


abc7chicago.com/jesse-jackson-update-covid-wife-released-from-hospital/11037982/

Oh wow!
All Black people are the same!

Not the same people at all, obviously, and I didn't confuse them.

[wanderingback]

Oct 18, 2021 12:58:02 GMT -5 thedutchgirl said:

Oct 18, 2021 12:52:15 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oh wow!
All Black people are the same!

Not the same people at all, obviously, and I didn't confuse them.

No not you! The person you quoted, sorry if that was confusing. I was agreeing with you that they clearly thought Jesse Jackson and Colin Powell were the same person in this instance, hence "all Black people are the same."

[thedutchgirl]

Oct 18, 2021 13:01:04 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oct 18, 2021 12:58:02 GMT -5 thedutchgirl said:

Not the same people at all, obviously, and I didn't confuse them.

No not you! The person you quoted, sorry if that was confusing. I was agreeing with you that they clearly thought Jesse Jackson and Colin Powell were the same person in this instance, hence "all Black people are the same."

Got it! 

[yaga]

Cancers, especially blood cancers, increase the risk of the vaccines not working. This was published from a project I worked on from December until my job was eliminated in March of this year: bloodcancerdiscov.aacrjournals.org/content/early/2021/10/08/2643-3230.BCD-21-0139

It's an in vitro study, but a stark difference in healthy controls vs patients with heme malignancies.

[rubytue]

Oct 18, 2021 13:58:18 GMT -5 yaga said:

Cancers, especially blood cancers, increase the risk of the vaccines not working. This was published from a project I worked on from December until my job was eliminated in March of this year: bloodcancerdiscov.aacrjournals.org/content/early/2021/10/08/2643-3230.BCD-21-0139

It's an in vitro study, but a stark difference in healthy controls vs patients with heme malignancies.

Yup. LLS ran a study based on blood draws from patients. Interestingly, multiple myeloma showed good response. 

www.cell.com/cancer-cell/fulltext/S1535-6108(21)00389-5?_hsmi=142762894&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--iDybYse6BgwxDcbmtpwVR09UPq8A_IYBOfPDiMW7EwaKOg3bS1pQeW-m8sIVOPhwaSRvujOJkkB6IqMs2ieHUrrxKRQ

[mbcdefg]

Wow, this is a quite a statement from Trump:

[chilerellanos]

Oct 19, 2021 11:12:45 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Wow, this is a quite a statement from Trump:

WOW.

What a pig.

Does everything have to be about him?