August covid thread

[wanderingback]

Updated covid vaccine with BA4 and 5 will use mouse data and not real human data. The neutralizing antibody data will come from human data from a vaccine with BA1 that the FDA didn’t approve. The vaccine with BA1 is the one that the UK just approved.

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/18/1117778748/whats-behind-the-fdas-controversial-strategy-for-evaluating-new-covid-boosters?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social

ETA: looks like they’re submitting data to FDA at end of this month? So I guess when they actually get the data a meeting will be scheduled.

[wanderingback]

Pfizer has asked US regulators to approve the bivalent vaccine. So we’ll see when they approve it!

We also got word from our health department that we can start pre-ordering vaccine doses this week.

[TR]

Aug 23, 2022 8:54:55 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Pfizer has asked US regulators to approve the bivalent vaccine. So we’ll see when they approve it!

We also got word from our health department that we can start pre-ordering vaccine doses this week.

This is very exciting!

[wanderingback]

Looks like moderna submitted their data today!

I’ve gotten all moderna shots, plus that’s what’s available in the building where I work, so I was secretly hoping they’d approve Pfizer and Moderna together.

[karinothing]

I also hope they approve Moderna. Although I got covid twice so maybe I should switch it up lol.

I am kind of worried covid messed up my lungs last time. I didn't feel that sick but had a cough (no wheezing) but then I got another respiratory virus 2 months later (2 weeks after my covid cough ended) and my right lung did not do well at all. I had to get steroids. I am hoping it was just a coincidence. But I am nervous and assume we will get covid again when school starts..

[TR]

Whatever gets approved first, I will be in line for it the first damn day lol

[StrawberryBlondie]

Aug 24, 2022 16:39:42 GMT -5 TR said:

Whatever gets approved first, I will be in line for it the first damn day lol

And please let it be before Halloween because I leave for vacation like 3 days later and my last booster will be over a year old by then.

[wanderingback]

Aug 24, 2022 19:30:40 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Aug 24, 2022 16:39:42 GMT -5 TR said:

Whatever gets approved first, I will be in line for it the first damn day lol

And please let it be before Halloween because I leave for vacation like 3 days later and my last booster will be over a year old by then.

Approval and roll out is supposed to come in September.

[pixy0stix]

I need to figure out what the rec is now for a booster after infection.

[wanderingback]

Aug 24, 2022 19:45:27 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I need to figure out what the rec is now for a booster after infection.

This isn’t based on anything I’ve read, but I’m guessing they won’t change the recommendation? I think it would just be too confusing for it to be different based on different boosters. As long as you don’t have active covid or a fever you can get a first, second or booster vaccine.

[spindle92]

All I can say is this covid headache is out of control.
I tested positive on 8/15 and had a headache from day 1.
Yesterday (tuesday) AM I woke up for the first time without a headache and thought oh great, it's over.
I was wrong.
It came back about 6PM last night with a vengeance and has not let up.
I did test negative last night and tonight but there is no way I can go back to work yet when I can barely see straight.

[wanderingback]

Oh yeah, although it's great that the science is great to get more boosters, lets not forget that government covid funding has pretty much dried up That means increasing disparities and only those that can afford to get vaccinated, treatment and tested will be able to continue to use these mitigation strategies (which is obviously true for many aspects of health care in this country). So upsetting. 

[seeyalater52]

Aug 23, 2022 18:14:06 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Looks like moderna submitted their data today!

I’ve gotten all moderna shots, plus that’s what’s available in the building where I work, so I was secretly hoping they’d approve Pfizer and Moderna together.

Same. Although worth noting that due to manufacturing timelines Pfizer will be initially available in Sept and Moderna likely not until Oct even if they’re both approved at the same time. ACIP just scheduled for Sept 1st and no agenda yet but with both EUAs in I think that’s probably it.

[krystee]

I need help deciding whether to get a booster. Parkinson’s runs in my family. I have four family members with it. Then my mom developed symptoms almost immediately after her Covid booster and was diagnosed with Parkinson’s. The neurologist told her the vaccine and Covid itself can trigger conditions like that, which you would have eventually got, but now you’re getting them possibly years sooner.

I am the age two of my relatives were when they got Parkinson’s (40). Do I get the booster, knowing it triggered my mom’s Parkinson’s? Or do I not, but then COVID could potentially trigger it as well?

(Please be gentle, I am extremely pro-science and pro-vaccine. I am just a little freaked out that my super healthy, young 60s mom went from totally fine to having really obvious tremors and stiffness in about 48 hours.

PDQ, I want to delete this so if she ever googles Parkinson’s and the vaccine, she doesn’t come across my post!

[meganew]

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

[mskitkat]

krystee I get it. The vaccine triggered my sister’s dysautonomia. She went from not-great-but-managed to in the ER every week for 2-3 months. She’s still not back together. It’s definitely in the back of my mind when I’m getting the vaccine.

My thought is that covid can trigger it as well as the vaccine, so I might as well protect myself from what I can.

[lea]

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

There seems to be a lot of strep going around this summer! I don’t think I would be surprised.

[lea]

Moderna is suing Pfizer for patent infringement.

www.reuters.com/legal/moderna-sues-pfizerbiontech-patent-infringement-over-covid-vaccine-2022-08-26/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter

[Velar Fricative]

krystee, how scary! That's a tough decision. I'd try to take emotion out of it and just consult any and all data I could, to see if you can find the prevalence of the disease after Covid versus after vaccine. If you've had covid before, that might make the decision even harder but the big unknown is whether unknown future variants could exacerbate the condition worse.

[Velar Fricative]

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

Lots of people get spared from covid if household members have it and so if you consider that plus the fact that strep is going around, the timing is shitty but I'd say it's definitely possible. When you're all better go play some lotto.

I got strep on March 21, 2020. We didn't leave the house after March 14, 2020, no one had covid in my house, and somehow I got fucking strep. Strep is sneaky as fuck, I guess. 

[Deleted]

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

Someone in my house tested positive on Tuesday night. I had a sore throat on Tuesday and I tested negative that morning on a home test. Felt way worse the next day, still negative on the home test. Got a NAAT at Walgreens and was positive. Another family member had a really sore throat on Monday, was a little sick on Tuesday, but had covid 5 weeks ago and has tested negative on every test so I think it’s entirely possible we have a double virus. One person had just the non-covid virus and two people had two viruses, which might explain why I feel so so so sick, possibly fighting 2 viruses at once.

[aurora]

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

When H and I got stuck out of state in July with COVID, none of the 4 other people in the house we were staying in got it. Two had had it ~2 months before so probably not a surprise for them, but the other two had been a long time even since boosters. All adults.

Of course we wore masks and isolated, but it was great to see this is possible.

[meganew]

Aug 26, 2022 8:32:17 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

Lots of people get spared from covid if household members have it and so if you consider that plus the fact that strep is going around, the timing is shitty but I'd say it's definitely possible. When you're all better go play some lotto.

I got strep on March 21, 2020. We didn't leave the house after March 14, 2020, no one had covid in my house, and somehow I got fucking strep. Strep is sneaky as fuck, I guess. 

Well, it’s not strep and it’s not Covid. It’s just another random virus that looks and feels like strep. Doctor was like “it’s weird, but it happens”

[scout8]

Aug 26, 2022 15:55:46 GMT -5 meganew said:

Aug 26, 2022 8:32:17 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Lots of people get spared from covid if household members have it and so if you consider that plus the fact that strep is going around, the timing is shitty but I'd say it's definitely possible. When you're all better go play some lotto.

I got strep on March 21, 2020. We didn't leave the house after March 14, 2020, no one had covid in my house, and somehow I got fucking strep. Strep is sneaky as fuck, I guess. 

Well, it’s not strep and it’s not Covid. It’s just another random virus that looks and feels like strep. Doctor was like “it’s weird, but it happens”

My H had something like this a couple of weeks ago. I hope you feel better soon!

[meganew]

Aug 26, 2022 17:03:18 GMT -5 scout8 said:

Aug 26, 2022 15:55:46 GMT -5 meganew said:

Well, it’s not strep and it’s not Covid. It’s just another random virus that looks and feels like strep. Doctor was like “it’s weird, but it happens”

My H had something like this a couple of weeks ago. I hope you feel better soon!

Thank you! Luckily I started feeling better as soon as the receptionist said “see you at 3!” Lol. As always.

[dutchgirl678]

A FB friend of mine just tested positive for Covid only 28 days after she had it! I guess the whole idea that you will be immune for a while is not true with the latest variants. It must be so frustrating!

[meganew]

Aug 26, 2022 17:48:20 GMT -5 dutchgirl678 said:

A FB friend of mine just tested positive for Covid only 28 days after she had it! I guess the whole idea that you will be immune for a while is not true with the latest variants. It must be so frustrating!

This happened to a good friend of mine in June/July- but she caught it the first time at home, and the second time when she was traveling for her grandmother's funeral, so it was probably a different variant. 

[erbear]

Aug 26, 2022 0:55:38 GMT -5 meganew said:

What are the chances that my entire family has Covid and I just have a sore throat/strep? I’ve had a terrible sore throat since Tuesday, but I’ve tested every day and retested with different brands, and I’m still negative. I just looked and I have the white streaks like a usually do when I get strep. It just seems so random if it really isn’t Covid.

It’s possible. It happened to me earlier this summer. Everyone has Covid; I had a sore throat and a stuffy nose — 4 at home and one PCR said not Covid 🤷‍♀️

[wanderingback]

A public health person on Twitter said the cdc is meeting this week and BA5 boosters could be ready next week. I can’t find any articles confirming this. Anyone see anything?

[timorousbeastie]

Aug 30, 2022 20:17:02 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

A public health person on Twitter said the cdc is meeting this week and BA5 boosters could be ready next week. I can’t find any articles confirming this. Anyone see anything?

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/30/1120023656/the-fda-is-expected-to-authorize-a-new-covid-booster-that-targets-omicron

“The U.S. Food and Drug Administration this week is expected to authorize the first updated versions of the COVID-19 boosters since the pandemic began.
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Specifically, the vaccines are programmed to target the BA.4 and BA.5 omicron subvariants, which are the dominant strains infecting people and the most adept at sneaking around the immune system.
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After the FDA authorizes the vaccines, advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will meet Thursday and Friday to decide whether to recommend it and who should receive it. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky will then have to sign off on that recommendation.”