October covid thread

[pixy0stix]

Oct 10, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -5 fluffycookie said:

Does anyone know what the recommendation is for getting the booster after having covid? I remember in the winter/spring they suggested waiting since you had some immunity from having covid. I plan to get my flu shot asap after I am over covid, but trying to figure out when I should get the booster.

As long as you're fever free, go for it.

[TR]

Oct 10, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -5 fluffycookie said:

Does anyone know what the recommendation is for getting the booster after having covid? I remember in the winter/spring they suggested waiting since you had some immunity from having covid. I plan to get my flu shot asap after I am over covid, but trying to figure out when I should get the booster.

Officially, you only need to be fever-free from your recent infection. Anecdotally, I've seen most experts I follow recommending 2-3 months post infection because your post-infection antibodies continue to increase over that time period so to get the most bang for your buck, so to speak, from the booster, that's an ideal time to get it.

ETA: I got mine 79 days post first positive test just due to timing and when I was willing to have side effects from the shot (which I didn't even have)

[seeyalater52]

Oct 10, 2022 11:11:00 GMT -5 TR said:

Oct 10, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -5 fluffycookie said:

Does anyone know what the recommendation is for getting the booster after having covid? I remember in the winter/spring they suggested waiting since you had some immunity from having covid. I plan to get my flu shot asap after I am over covid, but trying to figure out when I should get the booster.

Officially, you only need to be fever-free from your recent infection. Anecdotally, I've seen most experts I follow recommending 2-3 months post infection because your post-infection antibodies continue to increase over that time period so to get the most bang for your buck, so to speak, from the booster, that's an ideal time to get it.

ETA: I got mine 79 days post first positive test just due to timing and when I was willing to have side effects from the shot (which I didn't even have)

This is true but must be aware that you will likely have very limited immunity to covid following an infection these days. BA5 is still dominant (and plenty of people who have gotten reinfected multiple times with BA5 at this point) but other variants are increasingly gaining and will likely drive the surge in infections over the next 2-3 months. The vaccines are hypothetically a bit more effective with some spacing from an infection but that is about immune response and the way antibodies develop more than an immediate benefit to you in terms of protection now. So my advice would be to exercise caution despite the recent infection if you don’t want to get covid again soon. I see a lot of people misinterpret what the advice to space the vaccine from an infection means - it doesn’t mean you’re good and immune for that period of time. It could possibly give you broader and longer lasting protection from severe outcomes during the acute phase of an infection in the longer term (it’s pretty speculative at this point since we don’t really know what antibody levels correspond to good protections.)

[wanderingback]

I have my last appointment for the vaccine trial this week.
Crazy that it’s been 2 years. I’m sure I shared, but I got the placebo and ended up getting a different company brand vaccine but they still followed us for the 2 full years. I’m really glad I participated.

[glw]

Oct 10, 2022 10:42:04 GMT -5 fluffycookie said:

Does anyone know what the recommendation is for getting the booster after having covid? I remember in the winter/spring they suggested waiting since you had some immunity from having covid. I plan to get my flu shot asap after I am over covid, but trying to figure out when I should get the booster.

From Johns Hopkins virologist Andy Pekosz 10/6/22:

I had COVID almost two months ago. When would I need my booster shot?

Infection following vaccination really boosts your immune response. Vaccinated people in that scenario have protection anywhere from four to six months, so a lot of immunologists will say you probably don't want a boost while you're protected. If you are vaccinated, four to six months after your infection is probably when a booster would give you the best effect in terms of not only strengthening your current immunity, but also giving you long-term immunity that will last for hopefully a year or even longer.


Should people who've had two initial doses and two booster shots be getting this booster now?

Yes, because the bivalent booster will give you a better response to the currently circulating variants. And again, if you've had the boosters on top of the initial vaccination, I think you can wait about four to six months after that last booster to get this bivalent booster. Because again, we're now shifting from the pandemic strategy—getting immunity as fast as possible to as many people as possible—to the strategy of getting long-term immunity to people. Hopefully we can avoid having boosters every few months to try to maintain protection in the population.

[Bad Dingo]

www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-study-coronavirus-misrepresentation-20221010-45xnbyg6a5bmllr7q52czmowdi-story.html
"If you misled others about your COVID status, getting vaccinated or prevention measures, you’re not alone. 4 in 10 Americans did so too, study suggests."

Maybe it's extreme, but I barely have any friends anymore because I couldn't take all of their lying about Covid.  You are flying home from Switzerland and know you have Covid but aren't going to test because you don't want to miss your flight?  Your "allergies" are acting up but you still want to hang out? You are "allergic" to vaccines so can't get vaccinated?  Bye.

[fluffycookie]

glw , TR , Thank you! This is what I was looking for.

[seeyalater52]

Oct 10, 2022 13:48:27 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-study-coronavirus-misrepresentation-20221010-45xnbyg6a5bmllr7q52czmowdi-story.html
"If you misled others about your COVID status, getting vaccinated or prevention measures, you’re not alone. 4 in 10 Americans did so too, study suggests."

Maybe it's extreme, but I barely have any friends anymore because I couldn't take all of their lying about Covid.  You are flying home from Switzerland and know you have Covid but aren't going to test because you don't want to miss your flight?  Your "allergies" are acting up but you still want to hang out? You are "allergic" to vaccines so can't get vaccinated?  Bye.

Yup.

[eddy]

Got my booster this AM. Twelve hours in and I am feeling gross. I hope I am able to sleep it off tonight. 

Oddly my arm hurts so much less this time. I remember it was almost instantly throbbing from my other shots.

[wanderingback]

Oct 10, 2022 13:48:27 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-study-coronavirus-misrepresentation-20221010-45xnbyg6a5bmllr7q52czmowdi-story.html
"If you misled others about your COVID status, getting vaccinated or prevention measures, you’re not alone. 4 in 10 Americans did so too, study suggests."

Maybe it's extreme, but I barely have any friends anymore because I couldn't take all of their lying about Covid.  You are flying home from Switzerland and know you have Covid but aren't going to test because you don't want to miss your flight?  Your "allergies" are acting up but you still want to hang out? You are "allergic" to vaccines so can't get vaccinated?  Bye.

Ugh, so sorry you’ve had to deal with that.
I def am living in a different world where everyone I’m close with has taken covid seriously.
They all know that I only eat outdoors and have no problem with that.
I’ve def kept my circle small so it has sucked to not expand on friendships like "normal" but really sorry for all those who have lost friends over these things. As we all know, people can be so selfish.

[babsbunny]

Random follow-up: my pfizer booster had me craving fried chicken.

[eponinepontmercy]

Can someone help me with covid math? Someone in my household started showing symptoms on Friday. They were the same symptoms as allergies so we didn't test until she wasn't getting any better on Monday, when she was positive. She's been isolating or wearing a mask since then.

I tested negative on Monday and Tuesday. When should I test again? I feel like having her basically cough in my face for two days before testing is throwing off the count of my days since exposure.

[Velar Fricative]

Oct 12, 2022 10:29:59 GMT -5 eponinepontmercy said:

Can someone help me with covid math? Someone in my household started showing symptoms on Friday. They were the same symptoms as allergies so we didn't test until she wasn't getting any better on Monday, when she was positive. She's been isolating or wearing a mask since then.

I tested negative on Monday and Tuesday. When should I test again? I feel like having her basically cough in my face for two days before testing is throwing off the count of my days since exposure.

5 days after last exposure is the general rule of thumb unless you start feeling symptoms before that.

[neverfstop]

Regular exercise may improve the effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines
Exercisers who were vaccinated were about 25 percent less likely to be hospitalized with covid than sedentary people who received the same vaccine, a new study found

www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/10/24/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-exercise/

[Bad Dingo]

Oct 25, 2022 18:10:57 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Regular exercise may improve the effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines
Exercisers who were vaccinated were about 25 percent less likely to be hospitalized with covid than sedentary people who received the same vaccine, a new study found

www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/10/24/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-exercise/

I'm not understanding how it's the exercise and not the individual being more physically fit that leads to better outcomes. We already know that being overweight or obese increases the risk of hospitalization.

[wanderingback]

Oct 25, 2022 18:18:27 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

Oct 25, 2022 18:10:57 GMT -5 neverfstop said:

Regular exercise may improve the effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines
Exercisers who were vaccinated were about 25 percent less likely to be hospitalized with covid than sedentary people who received the same vaccine, a new study found

www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/10/24/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-exercise/

I'm not understanding how it's the exercise and not the individual being more physically fit that leads to better outcomes. We already know that being overweight or obese increases the risk of hospitalization.

Huh? You’re making assumptions about what body types exercise
or not. You can be overweight or obese and exercise regularly. Raises hand! You can also be skinny and never exercise. Hence, looking at exercise vs weight is how they came to this conclusion.
I only read the Washington post article and not the actual published paper to see what flaws there are with the study.

[chickadee77]

Oct 25, 2022 18:38:15 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Oct 25, 2022 18:18:27 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

I'm not understanding how it's the exercise and not the individual being more physically fit that leads to better outcomes. We already know that being overweight or obese increases the risk of hospitalization.

Huh? You’re making assumptions about what body types exercise
or not. You can be overweight or obese and exercise regularly. Raises hand! You can also be skinny and never exercise. Hence, looking at exercise vs weight is how they came to this conclusion.
I only read the Washington post article and not the actual published paper to see what flaws there are with the study.

Didn't read article, but I wonder if regular exercisers have better overall lung health? Even weight training, I imagine, even as anaerobic exercise, would strengthen those muscles, no? ETA I know a lot of thin people that get out of breath walking the same stairs I run as an obese person with minimal shortness of breath, so I realize health and weight have a complicated relationship

[wanderingback]

Oct 25, 2022 19:08:19 GMT -5 chickadee77 said:

Oct 25, 2022 18:38:15 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Huh? You’re making assumptions about what body types exercise
or not. You can be overweight or obese and exercise regularly. Raises hand! You can also be skinny and never exercise. Hence, looking at exercise vs weight is how they came to this conclusion.
I only read the Washington post article and not the actual published paper to see what flaws there are with the study.

Didn't read article, but I wonder if regular exercisers have better overall lung health? Even weight training, I imagine, even as anaerobic exercise, would strengthen those muscles, no? ETA I know a lot of thin people that get out of breath walking the same stairs I run as an obese person with minimal shortness of breath, so I realize health and weight have a complicated relationship

It’s been known that exercise can improve immune system function if done appropriately/in moderation (I think for example it’s been shown that after running a marathon your immune system can be slightly weakened, so "extreme" exercise isn’t beneficial). So I don’t think it’s entirely surprising what this article has found but would be interesting to know physiologically how this finding might be specific to covid.

[mrsukyankee]

Got my booster last Thursday and got a major exposure to Covid on Saturday/Sunday (people staying over). Ugh. H tested this morning and it was negative. I'll test tomorrow or Saturday and hoping we missed it this time (same couple stayed over for the wedding last year where most people ended up with Covid, including us).

Only outcome from booster was having a very sore arm for 48 hours. Much better than other Covid shots (where I was feverish and achy).

[Scout'sHonor]

Omgggg why, this day in this time, do people think it's acceptable to come be social if they aren't feeling good 😡 😤 MIL called to see if she could come up for lunch, sure thing! She arrives, with her sister unexpectedly, and she's coughing, claims its allergies. Ok I could believe that. But then in asking aunt how she's doing, she's says "coming down with a cold but otherwise ok" WTF! We begged out of lunch and got them out of the house asap. MIL claims aunt hadn't told her she was sick. 🙄

[rubytue]

Got my bivalent yesterday. I was supposed to get shingles instead, but it didn’t happen for stupid reasons. And they convinced me to get the Covid while I was there with an appointment. I was planning to get it in two weeks, but I was going to try to hunt around for moderna. But, thanks to the no shingles, not prepared for Covid, I didn’t think about that. So, I’m on Pfizer #5. Oh well.