Try Guys - who are they?

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[mention]wawa [/mention]

I don’t watch YouTube videos. The videos in my Facebook and Instagram feeds are pretty much exclusively cooking, cleaning tips, or cute kittens. Not sure how the algorithm missed me, but it did!

[TR]

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

I only ever go to YouTube if I need, like, an instructional video and I watch it and that's it. I do not usually watch videos on Facebook. I think it's the bolded part. I don't have the attention span. I only heard of the Try Guys once it started going viral on Twitter.

[wanderingback]

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

Pretty sure I started out seeing LadyLike videos because they'd pop up on my facebook feed because...I dunno...my cookies suggest I'm into goofy sarcastic girl shit? and then I went and found them on youtube, and then youtube suggested the TryGuys based on that viewing history. And that was aaaaaages ago. When they were still part of buzzfeed I think...

I love the Try Guys. Obviously Eugene is the best. Closely followed by Keith for me. I totally get why Ned fans feel like, shocked and betrayed. I'd like to pretend I was always skeptical of him, and that's why I wasn't a fan, but I wasn't. I just thought he was boring, but actually for real very into his wife and family. Also the whole vibe of the try guys has over time become come to include great anti-toxic-masculinity thing where they're willing to look stupid and do non-manly things without it being that awful homophobic 90's sitcom gag approach. So...I'm not personally betrayed, but as a fan it is surprising.

Despite that, I am sort of amused by the tone of the announcements and videos has been that this is all very.serious.business, but it's easy enough to see where they're coming from when they have a dedicated fanbase that considers themselves invested in their real personal lives (because their personal lives are part of their content) and for them, this IS really serious business. In that it is in fact their literal actual serious business and livelihoods, friendships and families. Good for them for taking a stand, sucks it had to be this public and messy, especially for Ariel.

Yeah never heard of them.
I don’t have Facebook, but I don’t think IG feeds me any random videos in my thread other than ads? I def don’t see anything like YouTube content on IG.
And I rarely watch YouTube except if I’m looking up something very specific. So I’ll watch that video and then exit out the window. It’s just not my form of entertainment to watch random videos often, so they haven’t come up for Mr.

[shopgirl07]

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

Pretty sure I started out seeing LadyLike videos because they'd pop up on my facebook feed because...I dunno...my cookies suggest I'm into goofy sarcastic girl shit? and then I went and found them on youtube, and then youtube suggested the TryGuys based on that viewing history. And that was aaaaaages ago. When they were still part of buzzfeed I think...

I love the Try Guys. Obviously Eugene is the best. Closely followed by Keith for me. I totally get why Ned fans feel like, shocked and betrayed. I'd like to pretend I was always skeptical of him, and that's why I wasn't a fan, but I wasn't. I just thought he was boring, but actually for real very into his wife and family. Also the whole vibe of the try guys has over time become come to include great anti-toxic-masculinity thing where they're willing to look stupid and do non-manly things without it being that awful homophobic 90's sitcom gag approach. So...I'm not personally betrayed, but as a fan it is surprising.

Despite that, I am sort of amused by the tone of the announcements and videos has been that this is all very.serious.business, but it's easy enough to see where they're coming from when they have a dedicated fanbase that considers themselves invested in their real personal lives (because their personal lives are part of their content) and for them, this IS really serious business. In that it is in fact their literal actual serious business and livelihoods, friendships and families. Good for them for taking a stand, sucks it had to be this public and messy, especially for Ariel.

I had never heard of them before all this and I consume plenty of YouTube and Instagram. They have never come up as suggestions to me. 

Not trying to pick on you, but I think your post is an example of why people are head tilting that this has become such a big story. Most people have never even heard of these people! They’re just not as consequential as people think. Now, in no way am I saying that they shouldn’t have fired this guy, but it’s just not a huge deal to the vast majority of people.

[penguingrrl]

I don’t really use social media in that way. For me it’s a way of connecting with people I know IRL (and a few from here, most of whom I have met in person). I’ve never watched videos that were “suggested for me” through any social media sites and have no interest in YouTube. I only watch regular shows really, and that’s things I sit and watch in the evening. So I haven’t heard of them because it’s just not how I use social media.

[pixy0stix]

Oct 10, 2022 14:19:33 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

Pretty sure I started out seeing LadyLike videos because they'd pop up on my facebook feed because...I dunno...my cookies suggest I'm into goofy sarcastic girl shit? and then I went and found them on youtube, and then youtube suggested the TryGuys based on that viewing history. And that was aaaaaages ago. When they were still part of buzzfeed I think...

I love the Try Guys. Obviously Eugene is the best. Closely followed by Keith for me. I totally get why Ned fans feel like, shocked and betrayed. I'd like to pretend I was always skeptical of him, and that's why I wasn't a fan, but I wasn't. I just thought he was boring, but actually for real very into his wife and family. Also the whole vibe of the try guys has over time become come to include great anti-toxic-masculinity thing where they're willing to look stupid and do non-manly things without it being that awful homophobic 90's sitcom gag approach. So...I'm not personally betrayed, but as a fan it is surprising.

Despite that, I am sort of amused by the tone of the announcements and videos has been that this is all very.serious.business, but it's easy enough to see where they're coming from when they have a dedicated fanbase that considers themselves invested in their real personal lives (because their personal lives are part of their content) and for them, this IS really serious business. In that it is in fact their literal actual serious business and livelihoods, friendships and families. Good for them for taking a stand, sucks it had to be this public and messy, especially for Ariel.

I had never heard of them before all this and I consume plenty of YouTube and Instagram. They have never come up as suggestions to me. 

Not trying to pick on you, but I think your post is an example of why people are head tilting that this has become such a big story. Most people have never even heard of these people! They’re just not as consequential as people think. Now, in no way am I saying that they shouldn’t have fired this guy, but it’s just not a huge deal to the vast majority of people.

They have a subscriber base of 8M people. YouTube subscription rates as they are, they probably regularly reach 16M people easily. It's on par with Bob's Burgers for viewership per video. So it's also not this niche little world that people who have never heard of them want to put them in, either.

[wawa]

Oct 10, 2022 14:19:33 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

Pretty sure I started out seeing LadyLike videos because they'd pop up on my facebook feed because...I dunno...my cookies suggest I'm into goofy sarcastic girl shit? and then I went and found them on youtube, and then youtube suggested the TryGuys based on that viewing history. And that was aaaaaages ago. When they were still part of buzzfeed I think...

I love the Try Guys. Obviously Eugene is the best. Closely followed by Keith for me. I totally get why Ned fans feel like, shocked and betrayed. I'd like to pretend I was always skeptical of him, and that's why I wasn't a fan, but I wasn't. I just thought he was boring, but actually for real very into his wife and family. Also the whole vibe of the try guys has over time become come to include great anti-toxic-masculinity thing where they're willing to look stupid and do non-manly things without it being that awful homophobic 90's sitcom gag approach. So...I'm not personally betrayed, but as a fan it is surprising.

Despite that, I am sort of amused by the tone of the announcements and videos has been that this is all very.serious.business, but it's easy enough to see where they're coming from when they have a dedicated fanbase that considers themselves invested in their real personal lives (because their personal lives are part of their content) and for them, this IS really serious business. In that it is in fact their literal actual serious business and livelihoods, friendships and families. Good for them for taking a stand, sucks it had to be this public and messy, especially for Ariel.

I had never heard of them before all this and I consume plenty of YouTube and Instagram. They have never come up as suggestions to me. 

Not trying to pick on you, but I think your post is an example of why people are head tilting that this has become such a big story. Most people have never even heard of these people! They’re just not as consequential as people think. Now, in no way am I saying that they shouldn’t have fired this guy, but it’s just not a huge deal to the vast majority of people.

I...what?  Why would this be picking on me?  I was just curious which reason people hadn't seen them, because they don't watch youtube at ALL or because they watch other stuff -  because I'm nosy. Not because I found it shocking or something.

[pixy0stix]

Also, in checking - apparently they released a podcast talking about it for those interested. It's Keith, Zach, and Miles (another of their associate producers).

[tacokick]

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

I knew who they were because I keep up with social media trends and occasionally write about this sort of thing but they have never come up for me organically on my personal accounts. I am a very self-directed consumer of content and have no interest in clicking on random videos that are pushed to me.

I am on YouTube for craft tutorials/music videos/tv show clips and this type of content is never suggested to me.

They never came up for me on Tiktok before this, I think because I am way more interested in celebrity gossip than what they actually produce as creators. Now I see all the gossip about them!

In all honesty, their content and content like it is of no interest to me at all so I am not surprised that it doesn’t get suggested to me.

If I’m going to watch something longer or for leisure and not information, I want to watch an actual tv show.

What we see with YouTubers is what we saw with bloggers a few years ago. People feel like they know them because they have shared so much so they feel betrayed when they are reminded they are real people who don’t always behave the way they’d think. I also think being on Buzzfeed as their first recurring cast video series really connected them to a core group of (younger at the time) consumers that have stuck with them over the years. They’ve been around a long time!

[dontlook]

Oct 10, 2022 13:46:42 GMT -5 TR said:

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

I only ever go to YouTube if I need, like, an instructional video and I watch it and that's it. I do not usually watch videos on Facebook. I think it's the bolded part. I don't have the attention span. I only heard of the Try Guys once it started going viral on Twitter.

This is me! I hate YouTube videos and have never look for content in that form. I think it makes me odd. My husband loves it. Has several shows he watches regularly.

[tacokick]

Oct 10, 2022 14:19:33 GMT -5 shopgirl07 said:

I had never heard of them before all this and I consume plenty of YouTube and Instagram. They have never come up as suggestions to me. 

Not trying to pick on you, but I think your post is an example of why people are head tilting that this has become such a big story. Most people have never even heard of these people! They’re just not as consequential as people think. Now, in no way am I saying that they shouldn’t have fired this guy, but it’s just not a huge deal to the vast majority of people.

Not directed at you but I see this a lot.

Just because someone personally hasn’t heard of them doesn’t mean that they aren’t hugely popular! Not everything is for everyone. They had a NYT bestseller, they have a Food Network show and they have better streaming numbers than many network tv shows. They are firmly crossed over into the mainstream. You might not be their target demo but a lot of people are! Their audience is largely women in their late teens and twenties (according to a recent Slate article). If that’s not you, then that explains a lot.

[wawa]

Oct 10, 2022 15:21:31 GMT -5 tacokick said:

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

I knew who they were because I keep up with social media trends and occasionally write about this sort of thing but they have never come up for me organically on my personal accounts. I am a very self-directed consumer of content and have no interest in clicking on random videos that are pushed to me.

I am on YouTube for craft tutorials/music videos/tv show clips and this type of content is never suggested to me.

They never came up for me on Tiktok before this, I think because I am way more interested in celebrity gossip than what they actually produce as creators. Now I see all the gossip about them!

In all honesty, their content and content like it is of no interest to me at all so I am not surprised that it doesn’t get suggested to me.

If I’m going to watch something longer or for leisure and not information, I want to watch an actual tv show.

What we see with YouTubers is what we saw with bloggers a few years ago. People feel like they know them because they have shared so much so they feel betrayed when they are reminded they are real people who don’t always behave the way they’d think. I also think being on Buzzfeed as their first recurring cast video series really connected them to a core group of (younger at the time) consumers that have stuck with them over the years. They’ve been around a long time!

Yeah, that was part of my half baked theory in my head as I was musing what population segments do actually watch them, or at least are aware of them. I am EXTREMELY susceptible to "oh what's this video?" scrolling. If you aren't, seems likely that they're less likely to have appeared "organically"  (none of that is actually organic, but, close enough) because it's not like...topical?  Like, it's not cooking videos or travel videos or DIY anything else specific (though at times they've done all of those things) so unless you're just watching stuff because it's there, i don't know how you'd come across them. 

they also make me feel ever so slightly old sometimes.  Which means they're aimed at a market segment younger than the median on this board.

[sugarbear1]

I am on both FB and IG fairly regularly (daily for FB, weekly for IG) and have never heard of these guys.

[Deleted]

Oct 10, 2022 15:44:08 GMT -5 wawa said:

Oct 10, 2022 15:21:31 GMT -5 tacokick said:

I knew who they were because I keep up with social media trends and occasionally write about this sort of thing but they have never come up for me organically on my personal accounts. I am a very self-directed consumer of content and have no interest in clicking on random videos that are pushed to me.

I am on YouTube for craft tutorials/music videos/tv show clips and this type of content is never suggested to me.

They never came up for me on Tiktok before this, I think because I am way more interested in celebrity gossip than what they actually produce as creators. Now I see all the gossip about them!

In all honesty, their content and content like it is of no interest to me at all so I am not surprised that it doesn’t get suggested to me.

If I’m going to watch something longer or for leisure and not information, I want to watch an actual tv show.

What we see with YouTubers is what we saw with bloggers a few years ago. People feel like they know them because they have shared so much so they feel betrayed when they are reminded they are real people who don’t always behave the way they’d think. I also think being on Buzzfeed as their first recurring cast video series really connected them to a core group of (younger at the time) consumers that have stuck with them over the years. They’ve been around a long time!

Yeah, that was part of my half baked theory in my head as I was musing what population segments do actually watch them, or at least are aware of them. I am EXTREMELY susceptible to "oh what's this video?" scrolling. If you aren't, seems likely that they're less likely to have appeared "organically"  (none of that is actually organic, but, close enough) because it's not like...topical?  Like, it's not cooking videos or travel videos or DIY anything else specific (though at times they've done all of those things) so unless you're just watching stuff because it's there, i don't know how you'd come across them. 

they also make me feel ever so slightly old sometimes.  Which means they're aimed at a market segment younger than the median on this board.

On this note, I wonder if they have come across my feed and I just didn’t know it was them? Social Media algorithms are so weird. I’m definitely not in the demographic, but it does sound like something I might enjoy.

Watch, now they’ll be all over my feed….

[twilightmv]

I have YouTube premium, a YouTube channel, and watch more YouTube than tv and I still wasn’t aware of them. I watched College Humor back in the day and they used to compare one of their main cast to “Keith from buzzfeed” so I recognized that one when the news broke. My sister is a try guys fan though and was also shocked I never encountered them.

[konapoppy]

I think this is a sign of how crazy the algorithms have become and the rabbit holes or echo chambers you end up in. My YT algorithm is all Disney and minimalism. I never would have come across their videos.

[Velar Fricative]

Yeah I only use YT to watch old music videos, random show clips and DIY instructional videos. I rarely use IG and Facebook just shows me reels that look so dumb so I don’t watch.

[tacokick]

Oct 10, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5 konapoppy said:

I think this is a sign of how crazy the algorithms have become and the rabbit holes or echo chambers you end up in. My YT algorithm is all Disney and minimalism. I never would have come across their videos.

I do think it’s easy to unconsciously ignore/miss something even if it comes up if you aren’t interested in it. You just never think about it again or focus on what it is. The algorithm plays a role but I think it’s also human nature to tune out things that don’t appeal to you.

For example, my husband and I have no interest in any sports. We don’t socialize with big sports fans. We know sports exist. We know they have huge fan bases but they hold no value in our lives. If we see a sign for some sporting event or someone mentions there is a game we don’t focus on it at all or retain any knowledge about it because we don’t care. This was true way before social media.

This backfires when we want to go downtown on what turns out to be game days but we live a blissfully sports free existence despite living in a city with two major teams with huge stadiums and lot of sports fans! The only way sports comes onto my radar is when there is some crossover drama like the Tom Brady divorce rumors because I do love gossip! I had no idea they were in Tampa or even that he was still playing football. lol

I think the responsive algorithms have ramped this natural tendency way up because they want your money and don’t want to waste a minute on something that doesn’t instantly grab you.

[sent]

I don't watch "medium length online streaming video" on this kind of stuff. I am on FB all the time and Instagrm a little. I use both of these sites on mute to minimize being distracted by any videos or reels in my feed. I use YouTube to watch instructional videos for things like Canva, Google Slides, Instagram, small business stuff, crafts etc., the most recent SNL clips, and some music videos. I sometimes go down rabbit holes on YouTube, but not in the direction that would lead me to this kind of content.

I used to watch a lot of Food Network, but the last shows I probably watched on there were Chopped and Guy's Grocery Games so it's been a few years.

[pixy0stix]

YT has me convinced I can become a twee van lifer. Nothing can convince me differently! (Although most of them have moved on to building "small" homes.)

[Jalapeñomel]

Oct 10, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

So, the people who have never heard of the try guys - do you never watch the random videos your facebook or insta feed tries to show you? Do you watch stuff on youtube and go down the "suggested video" rabbit hole? I'm curious if it's just that you don't consume media of this sort (medium length online streaming video) or if your algorithms just never led you this direction?

Pretty sure I started out seeing LadyLike videos because they'd pop up on my facebook feed because...I dunno...my cookies suggest I'm into goofy sarcastic girl shit? and then I went and found them on youtube, and then youtube suggested the TryGuys based on that viewing history. And that was aaaaaages ago. When they were still part of buzzfeed I think...

I love the Try Guys. Obviously Eugene is the best. Closely followed by Keith for me. I totally get why Ned fans feel like, shocked and betrayed. I'd like to pretend I was always skeptical of him, and that's why I wasn't a fan, but I wasn't. I just thought he was boring, but actually for real very into his wife and family. Also the whole vibe of the try guys has over time become come to include great anti-toxic-masculinity thing where they're willing to look stupid and do non-manly things without it being that awful homophobic 90's sitcom gag approach. So...I'm not personally betrayed, but as a fan it is surprising.

Despite that, I am sort of amused by the tone of the announcements and videos has been that this is all very.serious.business, but it's easy enough to see where they're coming from when they have a dedicated fanbase that considers themselves invested in their real personal lives (because their personal lives are part of their content) and for them, this IS really serious business. In that it is in fact their literal actual serious business and livelihoods, friendships and families. Good for them for taking a stand, sucks it had to be this public and messy, especially for Ariel.

I’ve never watched anything on YouTube other than like AP chem videos, and I really only use TiKTok for SM.

But I’m definitely not the prime demographic for this type of pop culture.

[starlily]

I only go on to YT for specific videos and don't go down the "suggested" path. I've clicked a few of the random FB videos, mostly food related, but they were all so dumb I don't do that anymore. I pretty much stick to Twitter and IG these days.

[litebright]

I am getting way more interested in the tunnel-vision (tunnel-video?) tangent here than the Try Guys.

I don't go on YouTube except for work or how-to video stuff for workouts. I watch my FB reels but they are like 95% cute/funny dog videos, primarily Bunny the sheepadoodle and other dogs that use word-buttons.

[Wines Not Whines]

I’ve never heard of the Try Guys. I’m on FB and IG, but I ignore 99% of the suggested videos because they annoy me. Most of the videos/ads I get are related to food, travel, clothing, cute animals, or running. I only go to You Tube to watch specific videos, and I ignore unrelated suggestions that pop up.

[Nonny]

I knew the Try Guys before all of this, but I was never really a regular viewer.

However, reading this thread I seem to be a bit of an outlier in that I watch a ton of YouTube content (and I watch zero TikToks unless they get shared to FB or Twitter). I subscribe to about 30 channels (not all of which are still a going concern), I semi-regularly watch maybe 10 more where I'm not a subscriber, and will click around my suggestions when I'm bored (and I'll tell the algorithm to exclude things I'm not interested in, like sports or video games).

That said, the YouTube algorithm is a weird beast. Sometimes it will send me down a rabbit hole and I'm mildly interested, but then it gets hyper focused on that one thing and starts to only recommend similar channels, and I hate that. Based on that behavior, I can see why there is a concern about YouTube suggesting more and more outrageous/extreme content to people. 

[pixy0stix]

Y'all seriously listen to their podcast where they discuss what happened. It's called TryPod. They're as open as they legally can be about what and their decision making.

Even if you've never watched them, it's an interesting inside look at what happens when scandal breaks out in a company.

[al dente]

Oct 10, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5 konapoppy said:

I think this is a sign of how crazy the algorithms have become and the rabbit holes or echo chambers you end up in. My YT algorithm is all Disney and minimalism. I never would have come across their videos.

I think this part is really interesting. I spend entirely too much time on the internet, and feel I see the same general stuff between various social media apps/sites, here, and Reddit. I'm sure it's partially what interests me so I pay attention to, but also based on that is what is shown to me.
The fact that there's all this other stuff that has huge followings and I'm totally unaware is kind of crazy to think about.
I also just don't do YouTube which is its own whole entire world.

[eddy]

I truly have never heard of them. I thought I was pretty tapped into pop culture. 

I don’t consume a lot of video media. I don’t often tap on videos. I don’t watch things on youtube. I do use tiktok though. 

[wawa]

Oct 10, 2022 17:09:05 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

YT has me convinced I can become a twee van lifer. Nothing can convince me differently! (Although most of them have moved on to building "small" homes.)

There's a sailboat for sale not far from me that would be perfect for our imaginary sailboat life.  

I've been sailing ONCE.  But I'm gonna go live on a sailboat just like all those wee lil babies I watch on the internet.  (some of them are so YOUNG.)

[wawa]

Oct 11, 2022 0:24:21 GMT -5 al dente said:

Oct 10, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5 konapoppy said:

I think this is a sign of how crazy the algorithms have become and the rabbit holes or echo chambers you end up in. My YT algorithm is all Disney and minimalism. I never would have come across their videos.

I think this part is really interesting. I spend entirely too much time on the internet, and feel I see the same general stuff between various social media apps/sites, here, and Reddit. I'm sure it's partially what interests me so I pay attention to, but also based on that is what is shown to me.
The fact that there's all this other stuff that has huge followings and I'm totally unaware is kind of crazy to think about.
I also just don't do YouTube which is its own whole entire world.

One of my favorite ongoing personal algorithm experiments is when MH and sit on the couch after a long ass day and both mildlessly scroll tiktok.

we have COMPLETELY different tiktok feeds.   mine is 100% the interests we DON'T share, and his is like politics, science and sports. There's reasons for all of those things, but it's amazing to me that from 5 feet away while literally living the same life, we are fed totally different things.  He probably also has never heard of the try guys.