$1.2m house for sale that you can’t access

[livinitup]

Mar 29, 2023 9:04:58 GMT -5 lpcats said:

Check out the google street view. Ground used to be at the first floor and there was a garage.

That’s wild. The GROUND is completely gone.

I don’t think Mother Nature is finished.

[jlt19]

I was looking at the pictures in the second link and the sewage pipe is fully exposed and nothing holding it up. Which then makes me wonder, how is there water and electricity getting in? That cannot be safe. Fucking Florida. I assume whoever buys this will do so in cash, because surely no bank will let anyone take out a mortgage, right?

[pixy0stix]

Mar 29, 2023 21:12:57 GMT -5 jlt19 said:

I was looking at the pictures in the second link and the sewage pipe is fully exposed and nothing holding it up. Which then makes me wonder, how is there water and electricity getting in? That cannot be safe. Fucking Florida. I assume whoever buys this will do so in cash, because surely no bank will let anyone take out a mortgage, right?

I'm guessing that's part of bringing it up to code.

[icedcoffee]

The only reasonable thing anyone can do is buy this property, bulldoze it and use it as an exclusive spot to park and spread your blanket for a beach day. They should invite me.

[moreace01]

Mar 29, 2023 20:16:29 GMT -5 livinitup said:

Mar 29, 2023 9:04:58 GMT -5 lpcats said:

Check out the google street view. Ground used to be at the first floor and there was a garage.

That’s wild. The GROUND is completely gone.

I don’t think Mother Nature is finished.

And the houses on either side. Those appear to be gone as well. 

[Deleted]

Mar 30, 2023 10:51:29 GMT -5 moreace01 said:

Mar 29, 2023 20:16:29 GMT -5 livinitup said:

That’s wild. The GROUND is completely gone.

I don’t think Mother Nature is finished.

And the houses on either side. Those appear to be gone as well. 

We stayed just up the beach from there (maybe a 1/4 mile north?) in 2021 and it really is a beautiful area. There was SO much erosion then, but nothing appeared to be in immediate danger. Shows how much can change in 18 months.

Having said that, I’d totally rent a VRBO house again in that area for another week. And I’m betting a lot of other people would too. Which is probably driving the demand for these properties even more.

[scm1011]

Would anyone even insure that house?? I imagine not.

[wawa]

Mar 30, 2023 15:26:29 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

Would anyone even insure that house?? I imagine not.

LOLOL, no way in hell, right?  I hope??
Like, my mom's homeowers insurance threatened to drop her because her sidewalk had a tripping hazard. 
I just...

[pixy0stix]

I wonder if someone is buying the house to build another house? That seems like the only other option I can think of, which is still stupid.

[basilosaurus]

Mar 30, 2023 16:14:48 GMT -5 wawa said:

Mar 30, 2023 15:26:29 GMT -5 scm1011 said:

Would anyone even insure that house?? I imagine not.

LOLOL, no way in hell, right?  I hope??
Like, my mom's homeowers insurance threatened to drop her because her sidewalk had a tripping hazard. 
I just...

At one point in Florida flood and hurricane risk wasnt allowed to prevent coverage. I have no idea if that covers this now. And it was pretty decent at the time. I'm sure it's nowhere near decent now but may still be in place

[sonrisa]

Mar 30, 2023 10:14:42 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

The only reasonable thing anyone can do is buy this property, bulldoze it and use it as an exclusive spot to park and spread your blanket for a beach day. They should invite me.

I don’t understand why it’s private property. All states should follow CA - everything to the high tide line is public by law. There’s no such thing as a private beach (although some can only be reached via water because the dry land access is private)

[livinitup]

sonrisa That leads to my question - does the owner keep their property line when it shifts to be under water? Even now, with this house, the water’s edge is hitting under the house.

And for more news of rich people being well connected & ridiculous, there is a large property in my state where the land owner owns the river, including the water. The family has been elected/appointed to various state/federal offices. Go figure, what a coincidence.

[basilosaurus]

Mar 31, 2023 23:24:39 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

Mar 30, 2023 10:14:42 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

The only reasonable thing anyone can do is buy this property, bulldoze it and use it as an exclusive spot to park and spread your blanket for a beach day. They should invite me.

I don’t understand why it’s private property. All states should follow CA - everything to the high tide line is public by law. There’s no such thing as a private beach (although some can only be reached via water because the dry land access is private)

I don't believe FL has that same rule. I was lucky enough to have a close friend in high school with a house right on the beach. It was private, although, I'll admit that may be simply a result of no dry public access. They defended "their" beaches much like malibu celebrities.

[memenee]

Forget the water, I’m worried about some drunk spring breakers with a chainsaw and a sledgehammer.

[mcppalmbeach]

Apr 2, 2023 4:49:26 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Mar 31, 2023 23:24:39 GMT -5 sonrisa said:

I don’t understand why it’s private property. All states should follow CA - everything to the high tide line is public by law. There’s no such thing as a private beach (although some can only be reached via water because the dry land access is private)

I don't believe FL has that same rule. I was lucky enough to have a close friend in high school with a house right on the beach. It was private, although, I'll admit that may be simply a result of no dry public access. They defended "their" beaches much like malibu celebrities.

There is something similar…doesn’t stop people from being jerks (see the second article)
barneswalker.com/what-about-that-new-florida-public-beach-law/

www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/palm-beach/private-beach-no-trespassing-markers-anger-beachgoers-on-palm-beach?_amp=true

[steamboat185]

Price cut.

www.zillow.com/homedetails/3560-Coastal-Hwy-Saint-Augustine-FL-32084/66755750_zpid/

[livinitup]

When I saw that there was a new post on this thread, I was half expecting an update that the house washed away.

[al dente]

Apr 1, 2023 14:28:36 GMT -5 livinitup said:

And for more news of rich people being well connected & ridiculous, there is a large property in my state where the land owner owns the river, including the water. The family has been elected/appointed to various state/federal offices. Go figure, what a coincidence.

There's a row of 5 houses (the Obamas being one of them) here that recently put in a permit or whatever to move 10,000 cu. yards of sand to create a beach against their seawall. The whole area including the houses is predicted to be underwater by 2060. I will be shocked if it gets denied but people are not happy.

[pixy0stix]

This came across my feed today - www.facebook.com/reel/1300236933895320?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz

[Vespasia]

I just accidentally ended up on this house listing and saw that it's pending sale for less than half the original price. It notes that it is for the lot only, the county is requiring demolition of the existing structure. 

I went to college in St. Augustine and that was my favorite beach area. My boss had a house very close to there but on the intracoastal side and I absolutely loved getting paid to housesit! There's no way I'd live anywhere near there now (and that's not even counting the political landscape). 

[DarcyLongfellow]

I live in the area and drove past this house just the other day. It's no less shocking in person.

To answer a previous poster, Florida does not allow private beaches. The actual beach is public -- I believe up to the high tide line. But, if you line that public beach with private property and no public access points, you essentially create a private beach. Few people are going to walk miles and miles down the beach just to sit on your "private" stretch of sand.

Some cities/counties require public access at various points, but even then - if there's no public parking for miles, that access only helps the people with (slightly cheaper) mansions across the street from the beach. In my town the streets that run along the beach prohibit all street parking.

[agnes]

Update: just saw on Zillow Gone Wild that it’s been professionally demolished

www.instagram.com/reel/CwN2x6PqKUM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[notreal]

Every time this gets reposted I open it wondering if mother nature got it yet. I'm disappointed humans got to destroy it first.

[goldengirlz]

Apr 1, 2023 14:28:36 GMT -5 livinitup said:

sonrisa That leads to my question - does the owner keep their property line when it shifts to be under water? Even now, with this house, the water’s edge is hitting under the house.

And for more news of rich people being well connected & ridiculous, there is a large property in my state where the land owner owns the river, including the water. The family has been elected/appointed to various state/federal offices. Go figure, what a coincidence.

Apparently, yes, in California, you can own (and attempt to sell!) a lot that’s underwater:

abc7news.com/amp/underwater-property-sale-sf-candlestick-water-lot-real-estate-news-housing-market/10621611/

[pixy0stix]

Heh. I wonder how much money those people are out.

FWIW, planned tear down is preferable than just sliding into the sea just because of the pollutants in the house, but I get the sentiment, lol!

[wise_rita]

Aug 21, 2023 14:11:45 GMT -5 agnes said:

Update: just saw on Zillow Gone Wild that it’s been professionally demolished

www.instagram.com/reel/CwN2x6PqKUM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

It is a lucky person who got to do that job. How fun!