Post by followyourarrow on Jun 29, 2023 12:59:46 GMT -5
Oh wow. Since the brother is a young teen, I’d be worried about him too. I’d give the mom a couple hours to respond then call the police. Any chance dad’s Facebook says where he works or shows a pic of a work shirt or work van and you could call his company and ask for him?
If I'm understanding what the girls told me correctly, brother left last night before the girls put themselves to bed. Who knows where the dad went. Apparently he comes home in the evening sometime.
That is concerning that the brother has not been seen. Any chance you and the mom have mutual friends in common on facebook that you can message and ask them to tell her to check her messages ASAP. I know when I get messages from non-friends I don't always see them.
Oh wow. Since the brother is a young teen, I’d be worried about him too. I’d give the mom a couple hours to respond then call the police. Any chance dad’s Facebook says where he works or shows a pic of a work shirt or work van and you could call his company and ask for him?
Post by fluffycookie on Jun 29, 2023 13:08:05 GMT -5
pixy0stix, can you ask the girls if they have a list of contacts in the house? I am sure it's a long shot, but I know when we left DS with a babysitter, even if it was my cousin's daughter, we always left a list of contacts if there was an issue.
Could you go to their house and see if numbers are written anywhere? Idk if I'd feel comfortable with that tbh, but another way to try and get in contact. Such a tough situation!
yeah, the brother part is the biggest concerning thing at this point. He might be fine, partying it up with a girlfriend or something, but regardless, he needs to be found asap because he could be hurt.
Could you go to their house and see if numbers are written anywhere? Idk if I'd feel comfortable with that tbh, but another way to try and get in contact. Such a tough situation!
not a bad idea. Conceivably if the girls take you in you could look at possibly a land line that would show previous calls, a household ipad that might have texts, etc. But then again, having the police do that might be better.
pixy0stix , can you ask the girls if they have a list of contacts in the house? I am sure it's a long shot, but I know when we left DS with a babysitter, even if it was my cousin's daughter, we always left a list of contacts if there was an issue.
I did. They went to look and didn't find anything.
pixy0stix , can you ask the girls if they have a list of contacts in the house? I am sure it's a long shot, but I know when we left DS with a babysitter, even if it was my cousin's daughter, we always left a list of contacts if there was an issue.
I did. They went to look and didn't find anything.
Could you ask where their mom works and try and call her there?
biiiiiiiiiiiig dislike of that update, but at least he is safe??
I would honestly be the nosy neighbor at this point and when you saw dad's car in the driveway, let him know what went on (unless you worry that he could get violent or something?)
From past experience with these things (aka as being the kid with negligent parents), the dad won't care even if I go over. Mom probably will care and she has my phone number should she want to call if she ever sees that message.
Post by mcppalmbeach on Jun 29, 2023 13:35:07 GMT -5
What the everloving fuck?! I mean I applaud you for not reaming him out because I would have for sure had a lot of questions. He left two children under 10 alone for an entire night. Jesus! I would still tell the dad.
What the everloving fuck?! I mean I applaud you for not reaming him out because I would have for sure had a lot of questions. He left two children under 10 alone for an entire night. Jesus! I would still tell the dad.
I did ream him out. I told him that I could have easily called the cops and that everyone, including him, would have gotten in trouble. Now that I've seen him up close, and looked at the pictures on mom's page, I'm going to guess he's around 17/18. So definitely old enough to know better. But also, I get the feeling that this type of leaving the kids home alone is pretty standard in their house so he probably didn't think much of it.
I think I probably would have called the police. If they are in an unsafe situation at dads, they should be at their moms and maybe a call to the police would help the mom with this mess.
I've seen a lot of friends and family deal with shitty exes who put their kids in dangerous situations and can't get the system to do anything about it.
So. Brother was home with two small kids. Dad was not home.
Brother went out and left two small kids. Dad was not home.
Two small kids put themselves to bed and neither brother nor Dad was home.
Two small kids woke up and neither brother nor Dad was home.
Brother came back and picked two small kids up after being gone …18-20 hrs or so?
Dad is still not home.
Is this the right summary?
Those two little kids were home alone all night. This breaks my heart. Kids get scared. Kids wake up because they don’t feel good. Kids have bad dreams. Kids get thirsty. Kids need a hug.
So. Brother was home with two small kids. Dad was not home.
Brother went out and left two small kids. Dad was not home.
Two small kids put themselves to bed and neither brother nor Dad was home.
Two small kids woke up and neither brother nor Dad was home.
Brother came back and picked two small kids up after being gone …18-20 hrs or so?
Dad is still not home.
Is this the right summary?
Those two little kids were home alone all night. This breaks my heart. Kids get scared. Kids wake up because they don’t feel good. Kids have bad dreams. Kids get thirsty. Kids need a hug.
Yes, that's the gist of it. The girls said that dad and brother got into an argument before dad left, and I'm going to guess it was that the brother wanted to go out, dad said no because brother had to watch the kids, dad left and brother then left anyway. I don't know what dad was doing, if he works nights/super long hours or what.
Super tiny little sliver of good is that those girls now know they can come over here should something happen.
In talking more with the girls about their mom (trying to figure out where she worked to try to give that a call) mom also sounds like a real winner of a parent. My entire being is so sad right now.
I'm stressed for you reading this. Those brave girls being home alone so long and advocating for themselves by getting to you. I know a lot of us were left alone at that age - yay Gen X? - but overnight is a totally different game. I hope mom sees the message and is able to do something.
As a kid who was left alone too young due to having parents who had to work and really had no other financially feasible options, I feel for these kids because it sucked when we needed an adult and one wasn't around.
They are lucky they knocked on your door and didn't end up somewhere else.
It sounds like big brother isn't the responsible answer and both parents need to at least know an FYI this happened. Going to throw our hypothetical situations because that's what we do here.
Maybe dad has to work forced overtime and doesn't realize his son isn't doing what he is supposed to? Maybe dad is doing his own thing and thinks son is watching the girls? Crappy, but maybe he thinks they are attended to? Maybe mom has no idea but Im going to guess she has some idea. Girls don't want to get anyone in trouble, but also interesting that they came to your door looking for brother.
I feel for these kids and know that they are just two of many many many in similar situations. I hope the mom gets back to you and that the dad/brother can figure out a better supervision plan.
What the everloving fuck?! I mean I applaud you for not reaming him out because I would have for sure had a lot of questions. He left two children under 10 alone for an entire night. Jesus! I would still tell the dad.
I did ream him out. I told him that I could have easily called the cops and that everyone, including him, would have gotten in trouble. Now that I've seen him up close, and looked at the pictures on mom's page, I'm going to guess he's around 17/18. So definitely old enough to know better. But also, I get the feeling that this type of leaving the kids home alone is pretty standard in their house so he probably didn't think much of it.
I’m really sorry that you had to deal with this. I really don’t know what I would do. I want to give dad the benefit of the doubt, but I also don’t want him to be a piece of crap who would punish the kids for seeking help. People suck.
I had the same thought about those girls now knowing you are a trusted adult who can help them if they need it, so good on you. Those poor girls. I think you made the right choices - calling the cops and getting CPS involved quickly likely wasn't going to have a positive outcome for them (but obviously a path to consider if this behavior continues).
If it was a regular occurrence they wouldn't have come looking for help. I wouldn't jump to the Dad being a POS since an older teen is capable of watching siblings that age and it sounds like that's what the Dad thought was happening. I would tell him if you can. I'm glad the girls found a safe place with you. What an awful situation.