Post by sunshineandpinot on Jul 17, 2023 9:40:35 GMT -5
I'm specifically talking about long 9+ hour flights (usually international.) I am super envious of people that can sleep on planes; it's a super power!! My H falls asleep before takeoff and wakes when we land. I have all the things; eye mask, neck pillow, good noise cancelling headphones. I'm sometimes flying business so I have the lay flat seats, but more often I'm in coach. And nothing really seems to make a difference. On this last overnight flight, I took 20 mg melatonin and I maybe slept 45 min. I do all the right things; I wake up really early day of... I'm just not a plane sleeper. I'm also not a napper. I fall asleep in a bed, at nighttime. And it makes for a miserable flight and I'm of course tired on day one. I'm ready to break out the big guns. Specifically pills/meds. What pill can I take to help me sleep on a long international flight? Do you ask your doctor for these pills? I'm ready to figure this out so I arrive decently rested at my destination. Thank you!
Post by slbride2003 on Jul 17, 2023 9:42:36 GMT -5
I generally cannot sleep on planes either. I got Ambien from my doctor before we flew to Australia, and I slept in the middle seat in coach. Highly recommend.
Post by donutsmakemegonuts on Jul 17, 2023 9:48:20 GMT -5
I took half of a Tylenol PM on our overnight flight to Iceland. It was about 6 hours but the time difference meant that they were 4 hours ahead of us so we would be hitting the ground running when we got there. I was afraid that a whole dose would make me too drowsy. I took it right after takeoff and woke up with 30 minutes left in the flight.
I'm also someone who can't nap and generally only sleeps under very specific circumstances. I wouldn't even try to sleep on a plane because I know it wouldn't happen for me. In your case, I'd try to get a prescription sleeping pill from a doctor for the trip.
When I've flown to Asia for business, I did not take anything to help me sleep--I was too paranoid that I would have a bad reaction in front of a plane full of people. Ambien was for getting my sleep on track once I was on the ground.
I had a routine--watch a movie with dinner, have 2 glasses of wine, brush my teeth, read a book "in bed" for 30 minutes then close my eyes for a very long time. I find resting to be very helpful, even if I don't fall asleep. Flying business class was very helpful, as is a comfortable eye mask.
I use the same thing I use to sleep on a regular basis, 25 mg doxylamine succinate. It's still not the best sleep, but it has helped on the one overseas flight I had in the recent-ish past.
Post by wanderingback on Jul 17, 2023 10:15:38 GMT -5
Prob not helpful either but yeah I also can’t sleep on planes either. I’m not nervous, I usually am pretty comfy and yep my eyes pop open after about 30 minutes and restless sleep. You could always try Benadryl or something to see if that helps. I personally wouldn’t ask for a sleep aid like ambien because some people have strange reactions and wake up groggy and that’s the last thing I’d want on a plane (especially on the off chance there were an emergency or early landing).
DS1 and I both cannot sleep on planes no matter what. DS2 and DH fall asleep right away. We have an overnight flight in 2 weeks and I’m assuming DS1 and I will grumpily state at each other and watch movies the whole time.
I use melatonin for us to adjust to new time zones, but honestly don’t know how helpful it is. I find the older I get the more jet lag affects me
Post by gerberdaisy on Jul 17, 2023 10:25:51 GMT -5
I cat nap off and on throughout the flight typically (like 10 min at a time). Never feel line I'm really fall asleep, but helps with being rested. I do not react well to ambien (found that out the hard way), but did take melatonin on my last flight to Japan. I see you already tried it though. I only took 1 mg, was more worried about being groggy than not sleeping. I thought it helped, had a longer period of sleep than usual.
I use the same thing I use to sleep on a regular basis, 25 mg doxylamine succinate. It's still not the best sleep, but it has helped on the one overseas flight I had in the recent-ish past.
Post by sunshineandpinot on Jul 17, 2023 10:32:57 GMT -5
I took Ambian when I was 22 for a 24 hour bus ride (!!!!) in australia and it worked great so I guess I'll message my doctor and see if she'll give me a prescription? Is that how that works? Don't flame, but my mom also has ambian so I could just take a couple of her pills? I'm just ready to figure this out and get some actual sleep on my next long haul flight.
ETA- I'm mainly asking about getting rest on the overnight flight. But what do you do on the return flight (thinking specifically Europe to US when it's daylight.) This last flight I dozed maybe 30 minutes and just watched movies and read the other 11 hours. Do you take a sleep aid on the return flight too, like when they dim the cabin lights? I'd love to sleep ~6 hours
Post by steamboat185 on Jul 17, 2023 10:34:30 GMT -5
I’m always too nervous to take anything as we fly with kids, but Dramamine always makes me super tired. That would be my first drug yo try since I know the side effects.
I’m not great with flying, so my doctor prescribes Ativan for me. It’s the only thing that has ever let me sleep on a flight. It made my flights to/from Barcelona a total non-issue. I literally slept like 6 of the 7.5 hour flight. Highly recommend!
Post by mrsslocombe on Jul 17, 2023 10:49:52 GMT -5
Another person who cannot sleep, no matter what I take. Everything that knocks me out on land-edible, muscle relaxers, benadryl, AdvilPM...nothing on the plane. Mostly I just wind up really out of it and disoriented.
I also struggle to sleep on a flight. I've found that if I pay extra for premium economy, I can get my feet up on the seat with me. I am so much more comfortable without them dangling down. I also take a xanax and that helps too. With my feet up and a xanax in me, I've been able to get some sleep--nothing great, but at least I can sleep a bit. I have ambien too, but I've never taken it flying. I don't want to be that out of it.
Your H is the type of person that I envy on the plane!
Post by purplinsky on Jul 17, 2023 12:13:20 GMT -5
What kind of neck pillow do you have? I've never been able to sleep on flights but a few months ago we had a super early cross country flight. I had a neck pillow but I have never been able to fall asleep using it, so I decided to see what else was out there and consider trying a different neck pillow. I ended up getting an infinity pillow and it was amazing; I was able to sleep the entire flight. It supported my neck but also created this little mini cocoon around my ears and neck, I just can't say enough good stuff. I splurged and got the original, name brand one (just search 'Huzi Infinity Pillow') instead of a cheaper knock off and I'm so happy I did. We took another flight recently and my daughter asked if she could try the infinity pillow; she also loved it. I got stuck with the other neck pillow and got no sleep. Just something else to think about.
Post by mrsukyankee on Jul 17, 2023 12:15:00 GMT -5
I never sleep from Europe to US and never try to as I want to be 'on schedule' when I get there (leave afternoon, arrive early evening) and might 'nap' at the most. On the way back to London, it's usually only 7 hours, so I'm okay with just napping and recognise that I won't sleep, regardless of being in Business or not. I've tried sleeping tablets and I still don't sleep. I just suck it up and take a nap when I arrive in London (1-2 hours) and then try to stay up until 9pm.
Gravol helps me feel a little drowsy and also helps with my motion sickness. I generally find it difficult to sleep much on long haul flights but can usually manage a couple of catnaps.
Post by wanderlustmom on Jul 17, 2023 13:04:30 GMT -5
I also have two glasses of wine and a Tylenol pm and I still won't sleep well but I'll rest. I might try an eye pillow. We have an 18 hour flight coming up in a week. MY DH and DD aren't great slepers either. Our son can sleep anywhere, it's his super power. So jealous
I thought it was super interesting advice that not eating anything at all (on long international flights) reduces jet lag and increases sleep. I don’t know if I could pull that off, but I thought it was worth adding to the discussion.
Those of you who are saying alcohol, that sounds great in theory but it would make me have to pee too much! :/ anyone else have that issue? lol.
This is why I always sit in an aisle seat. And I must be really lucky cause I can’t remember a time when the person in the window seat has had to get up a million times. I don’t understand how people hold their pee so long!
I used to take Ambien on long flights before I had kids. I always tried to be careful about syncing up with the new time zone. It was so nice to sleep through entire flights. Maybe again someday.
Post by basilosaurus on Jul 17, 2023 16:58:30 GMT -5
Same thing I take most nights for insomnia. Sometimes a double dose (it's a variable as needed prescription). Many of my flights are 12+ hours, and it's not like I have anywhere to go.
I definitely choose aisle for toilet breaks. Especially if I've had wine with my meal. I also usually finish my full water bottle before taking my med.