November Political Whatsits

[pixy0stix]

For random political stories that maybe don't deserve their own thread (but probably should since the board is slow).

[pixy0stix]

Arguments continued in the CO case to keep Trump off the ballot with expert testimony on who the 14th amendment applies to - thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4287766-14th-amendment-trump-colorado-disqualification-trial/

As with most of Trump's defenses, their argument hinges on the rules apply to everyone else BUT the POTUS.

[msmerymac]

A climate scientist who sounded the alarm in the 1980s is advocating for solar geoengineering (as well as a global carbon tax) which would involve spraying sulphur into the atmosphere to deflect the rays of the sun. Apparently, it's controversial (for more than just the ick factor). Has anyone heard of this?

news.yahoo.com/global-heating-accelerating-warns-scientist-040128187.html?

[mrspez07]

Ken Buck is done, in part because of the direction of the party:
www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/ken-buck-congressman-wont-run-reelection-congress-again-colorado-republican/

The last part of that short article notes that his landlord is evicting him after his vote against one of the speaker candidates in the last few weeks.

I would say that Sen Buck has generally been a good example of the type of republican most CO conservatives wanted over the decades, but who knows now, his district is a bit of a conservative wildcard (and very likely to remain R), no idea if they’ll go crazy or moderate.

[mmmomof2]

Nov 2, 2023 12:13:29 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

A climate scientist who sounded the alarm in the 1980s is advocating for solar geoengineering (as well as a global carbon tax) which would involve spraying sulphur into the atmosphere to deflect the rays of the sun. Apparently, it's controversial (for more than just the ick factor). Has anyone heard of this?

news.yahoo.com/global-heating-accelerating-warns-scientist-040128187.html?

That's literally the plot of Snowpiercer. 

[Jalapeñomel]

Santos. My god, they’ll keep anyone won’t they?

thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/4289243-george-santos-survives-expulsion-vote/

[pixy0stix]

Nov 2, 2023 16:13:32 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Santos. My god, they’ll keep anyone won’t they?

thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/4289243-george-santos-survives-expulsion-vote/

I think they're scared of what would happen should anyone look at them too closely.

[pixy0stix]

Speaking of Buck, he testified in the CO 14th amendment case today. Apparently he had approached McCarthy about being in the Jan 6 committee and was denied.

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4290316-ken-buck-testifies-trump-14th-amendment-hearing-colorado/

[Michelle]

I'm getting nervous about all the Republican wolves in sheep's clothing nationwide. I'm referring to the people who get elected as Democrats but then switch parties.

While this guy has a long history as a Democrat, I fear that is exactly what he's trying to do in Houston:

www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/houston-mayoral-race-john-whitmire-gop-support-18282453.php

This guy did it in Dallas, and they both use the same marketing company, which donates heavily to GOP candidates and causes:
dentonrc.com/news/state/dallas-mayor-eric-johnson-forms-republican-mayors-association-after-reelection-and-party-switch/article_6c96ab46-332a-524a-a785-06484d1c3c94.html

More party movement from D to R. WTF?
www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/party-flippers-democrats-becoming-republicans-00110334

[basilosaurus]

Trump appointed judge in Florida docs case is considering delaying his trial into after the 2024 election which is absolute horseshit.

Lawyer types, is there professional guidance on ruling on a case involving the guy who got you you're job?

[aurora]

Nov 2, 2023 12:13:29 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

A climate scientist who sounded the alarm in the 1980s is advocating for solar geoengineering (as well as a global carbon tax) which would involve spraying sulphur into the atmosphere to deflect the rays of the sun. Apparently, it's controversial (for more than just the ick factor). Has anyone heard of this?

news.yahoo.com/global-heating-accelerating-warns-scientist-040128187.html?

I don't know a lot about this particular geoengineering idea, but in general the argument for (a geoengineering solution) is that we're desperate and don't have time to wait for new technologies to displace fossil fuels, and the argument against if that we really have no idea of the long-term consequences of whatever we unleash on the world on a massive scale (that we almost certainly won't be able to undo). Unfortunately there is some merit to both arguments.

[fernweh]

Nov 2, 2023 16:13:32 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Santos. My god, they’ll keep anyone won’t they?

thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/4289243-george-santos-survives-expulsion-vote/

Actually I read an article (it may be covered in the one you posted too, I didn’t read that one) where one of the dems who voted to keep him spoke up. He said he voted the way did because the ethics investigation hasn’t been completed and he hasn’t been convicted and voting to remove him without either of those things sets a dangerous precedent of just removing people Willy nilly. So while I do think santos should be removed, without a completed investigation he does make a valid point.

[mrsukyankee]

Nov 2, 2023 17:45:13 GMT -5 Michelle said:

I'm getting nervous about all the Republican wolves in sheep's clothing nationwide. I'm referring to the people who get elected as Democrats but then switch parties.

While this guy has a long history as a Democrat, I fear that is exactly what he's trying to do in Houston:

www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/houston-mayoral-race-john-whitmire-gop-support-18282453.php

This guy did it in Dallas, and they both use the same marketing company, which donates heavily to GOP candidates and causes:
dentonrc.com/news/state/dallas-mayor-eric-johnson-forms-republican-mayors-association-after-reelection-and-party-switch/article_6c96ab46-332a-524a-a785-06484d1c3c94.html

More party movement from D to R. WTF?
www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/party-flippers-democrats-becoming-republicans-00110334

Things need to be put in place that if someone does change, there needs to be a new election because it's not fair to those who vote in good faith.

[msmerymac]

Nov 3, 2023 4:37:23 GMT -5 fernweh said:

Nov 2, 2023 16:13:32 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Santos. My god, they’ll keep anyone won’t they?

thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/4289243-george-santos-survives-expulsion-vote/

Actually I read an article (it may be covered in the one you posted too, I didn’t read that one) where one of the dems who voted to keep him spoke up. He said he voted the way did because the ethics investigation hasn’t been completed and he hasn’t been convicted and voting to remove him without either of those things sets a dangerous precedent of just removing people Willy nilly. So while I do think santos should be removed, without a completed investigation he does make a valid point.

Yeah, I think it was Jamie Raskin, or else he made a similar point. Of the handful of people who have been removed from Congress, 2-3 literally left to join the Confederate Army and the others were already convicted of crimes prior to removal.

[womet]

Nov 3, 2023 9:57:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Nov 3, 2023 4:37:23 GMT -5 fernweh said:

Actually I read an article (it may be covered in the one you posted too, I didn’t read that one) where one of the dems who voted to keep him spoke up. He said he voted the way did because the ethics investigation hasn’t been completed and he hasn’t been convicted and voting to remove him without either of those things sets a dangerous precedent of just removing people Willy nilly. So while I do think santos should be removed, without a completed investigation he does make a valid point.

Yeah, I think it was Jamie Raskin, or else he made a similar point. Of the handful of people who have been removed from Congress, 2-3 literally left to join the Confederate Army and the others were already convicted of crimes prior to removal.

Jeff Jackson from NC made a similar point.

[lilac05]

Nov 3, 2023 12:28:41 GMT -5 womet said:

Nov 3, 2023 9:57:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Yeah, I think it was Jamie Raskin, or else he made a similar point. Of the handful of people who have been removed from Congress, 2-3 literally left to join the Confederate Army and the others were already convicted of crimes prior to removal.

Jeff Jackson from NC made a similar point.

I saw his video and really appreciated him explaining his vote. It made a lot of sense after he explained it. Basically, he said while he agrees Santos needs to go, we should follow the process. It’s already being done and is a matter of weeks away. If we just expelled him without the whole process, we’re opening it up to it being used against Democrats later. With current Republicans, they could try to expel someone for a parking ticket at the rate they’re going.

[basilosaurus]

Nov 3, 2023 23:08:10 GMT -5 lilac05 said:

Nov 3, 2023 12:28:41 GMT -5 womet said:

Jeff Jackson from NC made a similar point.

I saw his video and really appreciated him explaining his vote. It made a lot of sense after he explained it. Basically, he said while he agrees Santos needs to go, we should follow the process. It’s already being done and is a matter of weeks away. If we just expelled him without the whole process, we’re opening it up to it being used against Democrats later. With current Republicans, they could try to expel someone for a parking ticket at the rate they’re going.

Santos sent thank you letters to those who voted against expulsion. Jamie raskin copy edited it by hand and sent it back. I love the post script that there's no Shane in resigning. Unfortunately I only saw the image of the edited letter in a thumbnail from xitter

www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/11/03/congress/santos-says-thanks-00125253

Eta this link contains the corrections and personal note in the text although not the image of it

www.thehill.com/homenews/house/4292694-raskin-trolls-santos-thank-you-note-p-s-its-not-shameful-to-resign/amp/

[notsopicky]

Nov 3, 2023 5:39:06 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

Nov 2, 2023 17:45:13 GMT -5 Michelle said:

I'm getting nervous about all the Republican wolves in sheep's clothing nationwide. I'm referring to the people who get elected as Democrats but then switch parties.

While this guy has a long history as a Democrat, I fear that is exactly what he's trying to do in Houston:

www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/houston-mayoral-race-john-whitmire-gop-support-18282453.php

This guy did it in Dallas, and they both use the same marketing company, which donates heavily to GOP candidates and causes:
dentonrc.com/news/state/dallas-mayor-eric-johnson-forms-republican-mayors-association-after-reelection-and-party-switch/article_6c96ab46-332a-524a-a785-06484d1c3c94.html

More party movement from D to R. WTF?
www.politico.com/news/2023/08/09/party-flippers-democrats-becoming-republicans-00110334

Things need to be put in place that if someone does change, there needs to be a new election because it's not fair to those who vote in good faith.

This 10000000%. I feel like it's fraud. 

[livinitup]

Nov 2, 2023 15:19:41 GMT -5 mmmomof2 said:

Nov 2, 2023 12:13:29 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

A climate scientist who sounded the alarm in the 1980s is advocating for solar geoengineering (as well as a global carbon tax) which would involve spraying sulphur into the atmosphere to deflect the rays of the sun. Apparently, it's controversial (for more than just the ick factor). Has anyone heard of this?

news.yahoo.com/global-heating-accelerating-warns-scientist-040128187.html?

That's literally the plot of Snowpiercer. 

And Highlander (1986)

[wawa]

Nov 4, 2023 9:00:46 GMT -5 notsopicky said:

Nov 3, 2023 5:39:06 GMT -5 mrsukyankee said:

Things need to be put in place that if someone does change, there needs to be a new election because it's not fair to those who vote in good faith.

This 10000000%. I feel like it's fraud. 

How does one implement a recall?  Seems warranted if you run on one platform and then wholesale switch...

side note, I couldn't think of the word recall so I googled the first phrase that popped into my head to find it and the first result is DISTURBING. wtf internet.  w the actual f.

[notsopicky]

Nov 6, 2023 11:59:52 GMT -5 wawa said:

Nov 4, 2023 9:00:46 GMT -5 notsopicky said:

This 10000000%. I feel like it's fraud. 

How does one implement a recall?  Seems warranted if you run on one platform and then wholesale switch...

side note, I couldn't think of the word recall so I googled the first phrase that popped into my head to find it and the first result is DISTURBING. wtf internet.  w the actual f.

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Legit LOL. Disturbing, and maybe where The Internet thinks we're at as a country?  

[beetea]

Nov 6, 2023 11:59:52 GMT -5 wawa said:

Nov 4, 2023 9:00:46 GMT -5 notsopicky said:

This 10000000%. I feel like it's fraud. 

How does one implement a recall?  Seems warranted if you run on one platform and then wholesale switch...

side note, I couldn't think of the word recall so I googled the first phrase that popped into my head to find it and the first result is DISTURBING. wtf internet.  w the actual f.

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*MOST (not all)

[fernweh]

This is pissing me off.

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The Michigan Republican Party is suing to overturn abortion rights declaring it unconstitutional.

We voted on this last year. I’m passed! The voters have spoken, now shut up and do your job. I hope they all lose their seats when up for reelection.

www.yahoo.com/news/life-gop-lawmakers-sue-over-180255830.html

[macmars45]

All the non partisan school board positions in my district went to GOP endorsed candidates. No surprised. Still annoyed.

[fernweh]

“QAnon Shaman” consider running for Congress.

This can’t be legal right?!
Please tell me the 14th amendment will prevent this.

www.businessinsider.com/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress-arizona-2023-11

[Pom]

Nov 8, 2023 14:06:13 GMT -5 fernweh said:

This is pissing me off.

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The Michigan Republican Party is suing to overturn abortion rights declaring it unconstitutional.

We voted on this last year. I’m passed! The voters have spoken, now shut up and do your job. I hope they all lose their seats when up for reelection.

www.yahoo.com/news/life-gop-lawmakers-sue-over-180255830.html

Now Ohio too. If they can’t win, they run around like sore losers, planning to subvert the will of voters. Assholes.

[pixy0stix]

Tim Scott dropped out of the presidential race.

[msmerymac]

Trump's older sister, Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, has died at the age of 86.

[pixy0stix]

Nov 13, 2023 11:34:10 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Trump's older sister, Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, has died at the age of 86.

Wonder what golf course she'll be buried on.

[mrsd2006]

What is going on with Eric Adams, NYC mayor?

www.yahoo.com/news/eric-adams-latest-nyt-report-163005030.html