@ TX AG Ken Paxton continues to be the worst (re: abortion)

[mrsukyankee]

((Velar Fricative)) and even more hugs

[beetea]

Dec 14, 2023 9:44:19 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Today's The Daily episode has an interview with Kate Cox, though it was recorded the night before her court hearing. I bawled during my drive to work. TW: For anyone not aware, I had an abortion at 21 weeks due to a poor medical diagnosis, so her description of how she found out the news and the process thereafter brought back a lot of painful memories for me.

Liking in support, not actual LIKE. I'm so, so sorry. ❤️

I've been so weepy the past few days. The cruelty, ignorance, and shameless depravity is hitting real hard.

[ans1999]

Yesterday's Start Here podcast special edition was also a good listen on this topic. I just can't imagine getting the news that you are losing your pregnancy and that you are getting sick from it but your doctor has to wait until you are dying to do anything to help. They profiled 1 particular story on this but also stories from 10 other women. Some of these women have lost their fertility as a result. It is enraging!! We must continue to get these stories out and change these ridiculous laws. 

[underwaterrhymes]

((Velar Fricative))

[redheadbaker]

Dec 14, 2023 9:44:19 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Today's The Daily episode has an interview with Kate Cox, though it was recorded the night before her court hearing. I bawled during my drive to work. TW: For anyone not aware, I had an abortion at 21 weeks due to a poor medical diagnosis, so her description of how she found out the news and the process thereafter brought back a lot of painful memories for me.

Hugs. Same, just .... same. Or screaming my lungs out into a pillow so I don't scare the neighbors. 

[chickadee77]

Dec 14, 2023 13:12:16 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Dec 14, 2023 9:44:19 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

Today's The Daily episode has an interview with Kate Cox, though it was recorded the night before her court hearing. I bawled during my drive to work. TW: For anyone not aware, I had an abortion at 21 weeks due to a poor medical diagnosis, so her description of how she found out the news and the process thereafter brought back a lot of painful memories for me.

Hugs. Same, just .... same. Or screaming my lungs out into a pillow so I don't scare the neighbors. 

Also same. You sharing your experience here gave me a lot of strength to get through my own experience.

((@Velar Fricative)) ((redheadbaker))

[redheadbaker]

Dec 14, 2023 23:21:14 GMT -5 chickadee77 said:

Dec 14, 2023 13:12:16 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

Hugs. Same, just .... same. Or screaming my lungs out into a pillow so I don't scare the neighbors. 

Also same. You sharing your experience here gave me a lot of strength to get through my own experience.

((@Velar Fricative)) ((redheadbaker))

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Hugs.

[beetea]

Here's an adjacent story not getting as much press. (Wonder why?) Brittany Watts, Ohio woman, had a miscarriage at 22 weeks is facing felony charges. The description of what happened may be hard to read, especially if you've had a late term miscarriage. 

[redheadbaker]

If anyone has Hulu, you should consider watching "Impact by Nightline: On the Brink," with Diane Sawyer. She and journalist Rachel Scott meet with 18 women from 10 states with restrictive abortion laws and how those laws impacted their lives when their pregnancies went wrong.

It is VERY tough to watch, especially if you have had personal experience with pregnancy loss or termination of a wanted pregnancy.

abcnews.go.com/US/delayed-denied-women-pushed-deaths-door-abortion-care/story?id=105563255

[ellipses84]

Dec 15, 2023 10:15:35 GMT -5 beetea said:

Here's an adjacent story not getting as much press. (Wonder why?) Brittany Watts, Ohio woman, had a miscarriage at 22 weeks is facing felony charges. The description of what happened may be hard to read, especially if you've had a late term miscarriage. 

The article doesn’t say but I hope she has good pro bono representation and not a public defender.

TW - It also doesn’t mention the common experience that maybe women don’t have health insurance to go to the hospital / can’t afford cremation or burial costs or they’ve gone to the hospital and been sent home to miscarry. It does point out there’s no standard of what to do with a miscarried fetus and other women have been prosecuted for doing things like burying it in their backyard.

[ellipses84]

Dec 19, 2023 8:55:06 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

If anyone has Hulu, you should consider watching "Impact by Nightline: On the Brink," with Diane Sawyer. She and journalist Rachel Scott meet with 18 women from 10 states with restrictive abortion laws and how those laws impacted their lives when their pregnancies went wrong.

It is VERY tough to watch, especially if you have had personal experience with pregnancy loss or termination of a wanted pregnancy.

abcnews.go.com/US/delayed-denied-women-pushed-deaths-door-abortion-care/story?id=105563255

There’s been a lot of Hulu commercials for this and I plan to watch it. What cemented my mind on abortion was a women’s studies class in college where we learned about the history of abortion and maternal / infant mortality before Roe V. Wade. We are headed back to that and I’m so glad the women are sharing their stories.

[wanderingback]

Dec 19, 2023 9:54:22 GMT -5 ellipses84 said:

Dec 19, 2023 8:55:06 GMT -5 redheadbaker said:

If anyone has Hulu, you should consider watching "Impact by Nightline: On the Brink," with Diane Sawyer. She and journalist Rachel Scott meet with 18 women from 10 states with restrictive abortion laws and how those laws impacted their lives when their pregnancies went wrong.

It is VERY tough to watch, especially if you have had personal experience with pregnancy loss or termination of a wanted pregnancy.

abcnews.go.com/US/delayed-denied-women-pushed-deaths-door-abortion-care/story?id=105563255

There’s been a lot of Hulu commercials for this and I plan to watch it. What cemented my mind on abortion was a women’s studies class in college where we learned about the history of abortion and maternal / infant mortality before Roe V. Wade. We are headed back to that and I’m so glad the women are sharing their stories.

I would like to point out that medication abortion with mifepristone and misoprostol or misoprostol alone has been a game changer for abortion access and can’t be compared to how things were in the 1970s and before.

Unfortunately there are many countries who have and continue to ban abortion so we’ve learned a lot from them (accompaniment models, how to get pills to people, how to have aspiration procedures at home, etc).

Obviously this is all horrific (and access has been horrible for a long time) but I do think it’s important for people to know what options they do have regardless of the law. Data suggests that abortion rates have gone up since the Dobbs decision so I do not think we are headed back to the same problems that were seen before Roe vs Wade was passed.

[redheadbaker]

From Jay Kuo on FB:

"After the Dobbs decision came out in June of 2022, the federal government sought to support women like Kate Cox in states with harsh abortion bans. It reiterated guidance informing doctors that under federal law, when they discover an emergency medical condition, they are still legally obligated to stabilize patients, including to provide abortion care.

But on Tuesday, at the urging of Paxton, the ultra-conservative Fifth Circuit disagreed, holding that Texas’s anti-abortion bill actually trumps federal emergency care."

His whole post: www.facebook.com/nycjayjay/posts/pfbid0sZ2a7fmacF3Qmya3hmKo5ZfbBrx5b5qxJW7tqf14s7cXsSa1a22cqhjCcQNCkygZl

News article: www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/01/02/texas-abortion-emergency-5th-circuit/