Waterspout sinks luxury yacht off Sicily coast (@mentioned)

[pixy0stix]

apnews.com/article/yacht-bayesian-lynch-sicily-waterspout-missing-sinking-7eb9496d2f22f85b82e9cfccaa397657

It's freaky that officials think the waterspout formed exactly on top of the yacht.

[beetea]

Not me thinking Waterspout was the name of an orca. 🤣

[tacokick]

It’s amazing so many made it into a lifeboat!

And the rent was cheaper for a week than I would have guessed!

[rupertpenny]

Charybdis!

[StrawberryBlondie]

Aug 20, 2024 17:13:29 GMT -5 beetea said:

Not me thinking Waterspout was the name of an orca. 🤣

NGL I waterspout and thought whale too.

[aprilsails]

I've been out sailing in conditions with waterspouts. Generally they are much weaker than tornados. Lake Erie has the most waterspouts of anywhere on earth. In the summer of 2004 I was sailing from Lake St. Clair into Lake Erie and we saw over 13 in one day. We were motoring and just kind of drove around and away from them as much as possible.

I can absolutely believe that if it formed above them and they had a direct hit that it could have pulled the anchor chain too hard and tore a hole in the hull. At the same time probably everything up on deck was completely fucked up.

I feel terribly for everyone on board.

[pierogigirl]

Aug 21, 2024 6:32:10 GMT -5 aprilsails said:

I've been out sailing in conditions with waterspouts. Generally they are much weaker than tornados. Lake Erie has the most waterspouts of anywhere on earth. In the summer of 2004 I was sailing from Lake St. Clair into Lake Erie and we saw over 13 in one day. We were motoring and just kind of drove around and away from them as much as possible.

I can absolutely believe that if it formed above them and they had a direct hit that it could have pulled the anchor chain too hard and tore a hole in the hull. At the same time probably everything up on deck was completely fucked up.

I feel terribly for everyone on board.

I was reading about waterspouts and there are two kinds: fair weather and tornadic. The one that sank the boat was a tornadic one.


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[aprilsails]

Aug 21, 2024 7:34:12 GMT -5 pierogigirl said:

Aug 21, 2024 6:32:10 GMT -5 aprilsails said:

I've been out sailing in conditions with waterspouts. Generally they are much weaker than tornados. Lake Erie has the most waterspouts of anywhere on earth. In the summer of 2004 I was sailing from Lake St. Clair into Lake Erie and we saw over 13 in one day. We were motoring and just kind of drove around and away from them as much as possible.

I can absolutely believe that if it formed above them and they had a direct hit that it could have pulled the anchor chain too hard and tore a hole in the hull. At the same time probably everything up on deck was completely fucked up.

I feel terribly for everyone on board.

I was reading about waterspouts and there are two kinds: fair weather and tornadic. The one that sank the boat was a tornadic one.


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Yikes. Yeah, no boat is going to do well in those conditions.

[AAM2012]

Happened at 4am when most are asleep, that is scary and sad that people lost their lives.

[wanderingback]

I can’t seem to link a cnn app story but just read Italian authorities are opening manslaughter charges against unknown persons because they don’t think it was a weather even that sunk the ship, but negligence. I wonder if we’ll find out the truth.

[georgeglass]

www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/24/mike-hannah-lynch-yacht-sinking-investigation/

[georgeglass]

Also intriguing - Mike Lynch's ex-partner and co-defendant in the fraud case also died in an accident recently - www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7v5l81ge4zo

[tacokick]

The Italian authorities always seem quick to point blame, don’t they?

They seem to think it was probably weather related but that the crew should have been able to get everyone off the boat and it shouldn’t have sunk so quickly because the boat should have been unsinkable.

But if it was a waterspout at 4 am, getting the 15 people they did off the ship sounds amazing to me!

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/24/europe/bayesian-yacht-sicily-sinking-manslaughter-intl


It seems weird to insist that a boat can be unsinkable.

[basilosaurus]

Aug 25, 2024 8:52:42 GMT -5 tacokick said:

The Italian authorities always seem quick to point blame, don’t they?

They seem to think it was probably weather related but that the crew should have been able to get everyone off the boat and it shouldn’t have sunk so quickly because the boat should have been unsinkable.

But if it was a waterspout at 4 am, getting the 15 people they did off the ship sounds amazing to me!

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/24/europe/bayesian-yacht-sicily-sinking-manslaughter-intl


It seems weird to insist that a boat can be unsinkable.

The builders of the titanic infamously called it "pracitcally unsinkable". Even they wouldn't call it 100% unsinkable.

I have had the experience of being in open water with the normal daily summer afternoon thunderstorms where we'd regularly see waterspouts bud from a distance, and once it turned into a holy shit that's a full spout and it's near. It was full throttle, go perpendicular no matter where it leads us, not that we could see, heads down against the driving stinging rain. It was one of the scariest moments of my life.

That was in full daylight in a dinghy already underway, where it was 2nd nature to always have an eye to developing storms and the directions they were heading, because we know things can change quickly in that region including wind and sea direction. At 4am when lifeboats have to be lowered and loaded? It's amazing anyone got out safely let alone 15. Especially, as the first article pointed out, in the med where these types of near instant storms are not common.

I'm guessing these are not the kind of guests who would take kindly to being awoken as conditions worsen to prepare to move quickly just in case.

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Aug 25, 2024 10:18:26 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Aug 25, 2024 8:52:42 GMT -5 tacokick said:

The Italian authorities always seem quick to point blame, don’t they?

They seem to think it was probably weather related but that the crew should have been able to get everyone off the boat and it shouldn’t have sunk so quickly because the boat should have been unsinkable.

But if it was a waterspout at 4 am, getting the 15 people they did off the ship sounds amazing to me!

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/24/europe/bayesian-yacht-sicily-sinking-manslaughter-intl


It seems weird to insist that a boat can be unsinkable.

The builders of the titanic infamously called it "pracitcally unsinkable". Even they wouldn't call it 100% unsinkable.

I have had the experience of being in open water with the normal daily summer afternoon thunderstorms where we'd regularly see waterspouts bud from a distance, and once it turned into a holy shit that's a full spout and it's near. It was full throttle, go perpendicular no matter where it leads us, not that we could see, heads down against the driving stinging rain. It was one of the scariest moments of my life.

That was in full daylight in a dinghy already underway, where it was 2nd nature to always have an eye to developing storms and the directions they were heading, because we know things can change quickly in that region including wind and sea direction. At 4am when lifeboats have to be lowered and loaded? It's amazing anyone got out safely let alone 15. Especially, as the first article pointed out, in the med where these types of near instant storms are not common.

I'm guessing these are not the kind of guests who would take kindly to being awoken as conditions worsen to prepare to move quickly just in case.

I also imagine that some of the passengers may have been intoxicated? I know if I was on a luxury yacht holiday, I’d probably have a drink or several.