Post by StrawberryBlondie on Oct 28, 2024 15:26:27 GMT -5
None.
I have one person that I used to be *extremely* tight with (like, she was in my wedding) but haven't had any contact with except Facebook or IG for over 10 years that I suspect might. She took a very hard turn right circa 2015 and was pretty hardcore QAnon for a few years (where she cut any of us out that weren't fellow QAnon believers). Thankfully, after Jan 6th, she got herself out of that and has been pretty apolitical ever since. At minimum, I don't see her supporting Harris.
If we expand out to include family... I'd be shocked if I don't but no one is vocal about it. I am sure one of my uncles is a supporter, but I doubt he knows even when election day is, let alone would have the ambition to get off the bar stool and go vote if he did.
Actual friends? 0. Acquaintances and neighbors? Well more than I would like. I live in a Texas suburb. I do know many, many people (mostly women) who voted for him last time that won’t this time she that gives me a bit of hope.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Oct 28, 2024 15:50:27 GMT -5
Very few of my friends are as vocal or as active as I am politically. But none of my close friends are voting for Trump. I have unfriended the ones who were vocally pro-Trump a long time ago, including one of my bridesmaids who used to be liberal but got involved with a Trumper and now she is vile.
I am certain some acquaintances must, but they are quiet about it.
Friends? Like four, and I don't really speak to two of them anymore due entirely to political reasons. Hard to say who's not speaking to who (whom??) - but we don't talk anymore.
Family? Probably over half of our extended family is voting for Trump, and a large number of them like to brag about it any chance they get. It's mostly DH's family, and we only see them once a year or so, but I 100% know who they're voting for.
This is a really upsetting thought exercise. I'm getting so worried about the future.
to the best of my knowledge, none. some of my husband's former high school friends are, which sucked for the ones in our wedding, but we've culled everybody at this point. So def some "people I know", particularly once you add in @ activity acquaintances and work people who's politics I do not ask about because I don't care about them as humans and just need to conduct business, but no actual friends.
I'm not like...nice? So I don't stay friends with people unless I really truly like them. And I don't like trumpers.
Post by penguingrrl on Oct 28, 2024 16:15:57 GMT -5
Out of my friends? None that I know of and I’m reasonably certain I would know. We tend to have fairly in depth discussions and I wouldn’t be able to remain friends with someone who espoused values so diametrically opposite to my own. I also don’t have a big circle of friends, the ones I have are folks I have a significant connection with.
My circle of acquaintances had mostly come from working in the local Dem party, so they’re safe.
I found out this summer that a friend is "torn" about this election. It was maybe 2 weeks after Biden dropped out? I was very blunt that I found it mind boggling that anyone would have any doubts about rejecting him. I told her I hoped she changed her mind for xyz reasons.
None. If this included family, I'd have to admit that my SIL and her husband* are Trump supporters. He's a MAGA biggot and she's the absolute epitome of someone who leverages white woman privilege and tears on the regular. So yeah. No loss.
*we haven't spoken (more like communicated with since it was via messenger) to them in over five years and haven't seen them in over ten
I have a neighbor that I generally get along with and he is not a crazy trumper. But we has one conversation about one of the trials that ended up with me about screaming, and us agreeing to never ever talk about that again. I might have a conversation if I thought it was useful, but he is an attorney who thinks the charges were made up and political, and that he had a right to challenge everything. So.. what are you going to do there.
I votes two because I have two friends that might be. So I’m going with splitting them 50/50 (and if neither do, my former neighbor is an open trump supporter). One, bless her heart, votes republican because her daddy told her to, and he passed away. But her mom is a Fox News crazy person. I got so annoyed after the last election, though she did admit she couldn’t vote trump and went libratatrian. Because “she wants to have more choices.” Sorry, you need to vote based on the system we have not the one you want. So she’s probably a no. The other… I’m not sure about. She is/was very religious. I suspect she may be starting to deconstruct, but I don’t know.
I should start conversations with these friends. Because I like to think they are smart and open. But, I think it comes down to not actually wanting to know that they aren’t. And honestly, I have distanced myself for daddy voter for tangentially related reasons.
None that I know of. I have a close friend who voted for him in 2016 but was having serious doubts about it in 2020. I haven’t talked to her in a minute but I hope she changed her mind.
I met her in 2016 and she went from “I don’t need feminism because…” to having a daughter and actively raising her to be a feminist. I think a big part of 2016 was her and her (now ex) husband were both veterans so she felt she should vote R because military reasons plus her H swayed her view a lot I think.
ETA- I just checked didyourfriendsvote.org and she didn’t vote in 2020.
Close friends that I talk to on a daily basis, and have known for years, none.
Family friends, present at birthdays, graduations, weddings…I don’t know. There are some republicans, but they have never discussed who they vote for much less have I heard them talk about Trump.
Family relatives, none. My FIL is conservative and has a strong dislike of anything “left”. Think typical Miami Latino who fled dictatorship. Though somehow we’ve convinced him to not vote Trump. As long as he isn’t lying, that makes my entire family non Trump voters.
Oh, plenty I’m sure. Several of our neighbor friends (though it seems to be house divided for the most part between husband and wives). I’ve noticed we haven’t hung out with them in awhile and I do think politics is part of it.
My parents. My DH’s parents. Though I think I’ve worn my Dad down. My SIL and her little bubble (though I doubt she actually votes)
Our closest friends and who we interact with on a regular basis are waaaayyyy more Democratic leaning.
Everyone knows our feelings. I keep certain people in our lives to continue having discussions because I do feel I’ve changed a few minds. I’m VERY involved in pro-gun sense so I’m hoping my efforts pay off in that regard. I got my SBIL to speak out in support of gun safety and he’s very conservative so that’s been a win.
Post by theoriginalbean on Oct 28, 2024 16:57:45 GMT -5
We have one couple in our circle that we met through a sport we share, and I just learned a few months ago that they're trump supporters. It had never come up in conversation, we live in a pretty blue bubble, they're very socially liberal, not religious in the least, etc. I was shocked when I found out. We can't distance ourselves from them completely, as we see them multiple times a week at said shared activity, but I've definitely pulled back on what was becoming a close friendship.
I own a CrossFit gym and out of about 200 members there are six open supporters. We've clashed on rainbow flags and pride month activities in the past, but IDGAF I'd rather lose their business than compromise my values. My in-laws are full on supporting him and I very much limit my contact with them for various reasons.
I greatly paired pared down my group of close friends after Obama won his second term. I wasn't even super into politics then, but damn, the people around me lost their minds when Obama won in 2012- including my in-laws who also lost their minds and I told them as much. Our relationship never recovered, lol.
In 2016 after Trump won, I did a big Facebook purge and deleted all of the Trump supporters, even family. I cannot be around people that support that man. It was a huge issue for me in 2016 and is still today. Even my like-minded friends thought I was being OTT, but now they've come around to my thinking.
Post by lilypad1126 on Oct 28, 2024 17:14:26 GMT -5
Friends - ZERO. I cut them out back in 2015/2016 bc he’s so abhorrent and I cannot stomach being around you if you support him.
Acquaintances? I try hard to keep this at ZERO as well. Same reason as above. I obviously can’t control that I might work with a few, but I work for a fairly liberal org and the people I interact with regularly (and consider acquaintances) are vocal democrats.
Family? I can think of one distant cousin that is a loud trumper. I haven’t seen him since I was maybe 10? He and my mom are Facebook friends, but I’ve blocked him so I don’t have to see his nonsense. I assume his family is mostly trumper too, but again, distant relations and I’m not seeking out a relationship of any type.
Friend friends, none that I'm aware of (and definitely none among the people I talk to and hang out with regularly).
Former friend from my old martial arts days who I haven't seen in person in probably 10 years but who pops on FB occassionally - 1
Friendly acquaintances from my book club - I'd guess at least 2-3 just based on some things that have been said in passing in the past, but we we don't talk politics in the group, and the liberal ones of us are more outspoken. (The stories one of the women used to tell about digging holes on her college campus to protest the Vietnam war were outstanding BTW.)
Family on my side - 1-3, but I generally don't speak to them unless I have to. Possibly more.
Post by picksthemusic on Oct 28, 2024 17:34:13 GMT -5
0 friends. That would be a deal-breaker for friendship with me.
I do know of one who voted Jill Stein in 2016, however, but only because they advertised it.
Family, on the other hand, more than I'd like. It's mostly my mom's side of the family that are wealthy and like the tax breaks (yes, they are that wealthy). I haven't spoken to many of them in literal years, so it's hard to know what/how they feel about the whole thing now, however, since no one is on social media except to scroll and never post.
My cousins (on both sides) for the most part are, thankfully, liberal Dems.
My dad's side are mostly liberal Dems as well, which is nice.
ETA: To include DH's family - overall Dems, but some very upside-down thinking cousins and aunts/uncles that say they are 'independent' but support Rs.
Actual people I would invite for a party? likely none
People in my town? likely some. I had to deliver something to a neighbor's house earlier today and it was my first time at her house. As I drove closer to her address, I started getting worried there might be Trump signs in her yard. Thankfully there were no signs in her yard. I have to work with this woman for the next school year so if she is a MAGA, I’d rather not know. Two houses down however, full on MAGA.
People professionally IRL? 50/50. We're not allowed to discuss politics in most professional spaces. But I keep tabs on their personal pages to know what they're thinking. They're MAGA for all the reasons we (this board) despise. They have lots of white privilege although there non-white supporters also. They have lots of money so "taxes." They would just travel and pay to skip the line if a wife/daughter/girlfriend needed an abortion and it was not possible in their state anymore. They love to visit our cities but also openly criticize us for living in blue states. (Gross, and I would love to cut off my federal taxes that flow to your dumb red state but I digress.) They're not openly racist to my face, but we all know the dogwhistle when you're openly MAGA. Some of the not openly MAGA people in swing states post libertarian stuff which I don't understand if they actually vote that way or if they use their swing state vote strategically, whatever that strategy is. I don't engage with these people in the few spaces where political discussions are allowed because they are slick with words online on why the Dems are awful and I'm not good at that. I've got one pro-Kamala friend though who is a killer at arguing with them and putting them in their place. I let him fight the good fight.
I have worked with a guy for 20 years who is a Trump voter. He votes Dem downballot sometimes () but he supports Trump, and no amount of liberal Quaker school has moved the needle on it. I find it baffling, honestly. He is intelligent, and not a bigoted guy. He's just old school Catholic Italian from South Philly and genuinely believes that Trump, for all his faults (which he recognizes) is the better candidate for the country. I genuinely do not understand.
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