IDK best case scenario. Psychotic narcissist that’s somewhat incompetent and evil people around him try but fail to control his fleeting whims resulting in ineffective chaos or he dies and Vance takes over and is hated but Politics goes back to feeling more normal (the problem being Rs could do a lot of evil or they could decide to pass some actual policy to help constituents in addition to the making the rich get richer policies).
If we can actually vote him out, a Dem will replace him, have to clean up all the mess and still get blamed for it.
Co-worker just sent an office email saying there’s Orange sponge cake in the kitchen. He baked it last night. He has not shared his political views and keeps to himself for the most part so who knows.
It’s 9:45am on the east coast. And I just managed to drag myself out of bed. I fell asleep on the couch last night, and woke up at 2am to what sounded like a we won speech, but I opened my eyes and the ticker at the bottom was like 251-something. I moved to the bed with a sinking feeling but a twinge of hope.
7am do not disturb on my phone turns off, so the notifications woke me up. And.. fuck duck fuck. Put I back on silent and threw the covers over my head.
I feel like I woke up in the wrong reality. If I go back to sleep, will I cross back into the one I should be in?
All those pick-me women or conflicted Christians who said this was in God’s hands anyway had to do was stay home, instead of going out and intentionally voting for a felon rapist against the best interest of their daughters futures! I’m so angry that R’s turned out in such high numbers for that man. Men could have let women just have this moment. All we ask is that they take their foot off our neck.
IDK best case scenario. Psychotic narcissist that’s somewhat incompetent and evil people around him try but fail to control his fleeting whims resulting in ineffective chaos or he dies and Vance takes over and is hated but Politics goes back to feeling more normal (the problem being Rs could do a lot of evil or they could decide to pass some actual policy to help constituents in addition to the making the rich get richer policies).
If we can actually vote him out, a Dem will replace him, have to clean up all the mess and still get blamed for it.
Maybe they’ll try to 25th Amendment him and it will start a massive fight between the party / within the whitehouse admin and they’ll just baffle amongst themselves for 2 years is nothing gets done until we can take back the house and senate at midterms.
IDK best case scenario. Psychotic narcissist that’s somewhat incompetent and evil people around him try but fail to control his fleeting whims resulting in ineffective chaos or he dies and Vance takes over and is hated but Politics goes back to feeling more normal (the problem being Rs could do a lot of evil or they could decide to pass some actual policy to help constituents in addition to the making the rich get richer policies).
If we can actually vote him out, a Dem will replace him, have to clean up all the mess and still get blamed for it.
Maybe they’ll try to 25th Amendment him and it will start a massive fight between the party / within the whitehouse admin and they’ll just baffle amongst themselves for 2 years is nothing gets done until we can take back the house and senate at midterms.
That was my hopeful conspiracy theory. We deal with his chaos and nonsense for two years so they can put Vance in after the halfway mark, so they can get ten years and two full elections out of him. But letthe chaos ensue.
My dream for this morning post-results is that Biden fills every judicial seat that's vacant, pardons Hunter Biden, then steps down and names Kamala as his successor/POTUS47 (a la Nixon) so she *does* become the first female President by hook or by crook, and all the 47 branded merchandise and gear for that orange cretin becomes worthless garbage because he'll technically be #48 in that scenario. A girl can dream still, can't she?
They see their groceries are higher now because things like gas and eggs and milk are weekly purchases, but they don't consider all the long term cost increases that will be so, so much worse. Tariffs could mean $4000 iphones. Cuts to social security, medicare, and medicare mean mom or grandma has to live with them instead of at an independent living facility (that's definitely going to increase that grocery bill, and probably utilities, and possibly housing costs too if you have to move). Rolling back the ACA will once again make healthcare costs out of reach for millions.
All these motherfucking men (all @parents really) who have bad or estranged relationships with their @kids could have done one simple thing to help heal their relationships. They could have sacrificed 1 of their 3 votes for Mango Mussolini. Considering it will impact their daughter’s lives for the next 50+ years, much longer than any of them will be alive, it would have been such a small sacrifice. It would have been in their best interest too. Now their social security and Medicare will probably get cut and we’ll all be fucked.
And GenZ men, get ready for the 4b movement in Americakkk and to not get fucked.
All those pick-me women or conflicted Christians who said this was in God’s hands anyway had to do was stay home, instead of going out and intentionally voting for a felon rapist against the best interest of their daughters futures! I’m so angry that R’s turned out in such high numbers for that man. Men could have let women just have this moment. All we ask is that they take their foot off our neck.
That's part of the problem. Over 15 million people that voted for Biden in 2020 stayed home in 2024. That was the problem. A comedian I follow on Threads (Steve Hoffsteader) said this:
While commentators were stumbling all over themselves to give Trump credit for reaching new voters and forming coalitions and all kinds of other stuff that never happened, the truth is that Trump won because 15 million people who voted for Biden didn't vote for Harris.
The good news is that the feeling of dread from Trump growing his base is unfounded. But that doesn't change the outcome. 15 million people made the choice to let someone else decide this for them and the rest of us have to live with that choice.
My predictions for this were wrong. I'm not upset about being wrong but I am upset about why. 15 million people decided that apathy or "protest" or indecision was more important than being a part of democracy. There are no more Trumpers than there were 4 years ago. But something I couldn't predict was 15 million non-Trumpers who simply couldn't be bothered.
Post by picksthemusic on Nov 6, 2024 12:27:14 GMT -5
I'm lucky. I live in WA, and we thankfully voted in a D governor who knows what he's doing.
I'm otherwise terrified for so many things today. My job being one - if RFK will be in charge of HHS or whatever - I don't know what will happen to my job.
All those pick-me women or conflicted Christians who said this was in God’s hands anyway had to do was stay home, instead of going out and intentionally voting for a felon rapist against the best interest of their daughters futures! I’m so angry that R’s turned out in such high numbers for that man. Men could have let women just have this moment. All we ask is that they take their foot off our neck.
That's part of the problem. Over 15 million people that voted for Biden in 2020 stayed home in 2024. That was the problem. A comedian I follow on Threads (Steve Hoffsteader) said this:
While commentators were stumbling all over themselves to give Trump credit for reaching new voters and forming coalitions and all kinds of other stuff that never happened, the truth is that Trump won because 15 million people who voted for Biden didn't vote for Harris.
The good news is that the feeling of dread from Trump growing his base is unfounded. But that doesn't change the outcome. 15 million people made the choice to let someone else decide this for them and the rest of us have to live with that choice.
My predictions for this were wrong. I'm not upset about being wrong but I am upset about why. 15 million people decided that apathy or "protest" or indecision was more important than being a part of democracy. There are no more Trumpers than there were 4 years ago. But something I couldn't predict was 15 million non-Trumpers who simply couldn't be bothered.
I mean former 2020 🍊 voters who finally had the last straw with Covid, January 6th, classified documents or felony convictions. It’s like they got amnesia in the past few months and were like, well things are expensive, Biden hasn’t fixed everything, blame him, gotta vote for someone. Or people who saw his recent declining health, MSG rally or blowjob 🎤 incident and couldn’t bring themself to vote for a Dem should have at least had the conscience to not vote. Makes me think some Republicans against Trump were lying or didn’t show up. Maybe they’d only vote for Biden, a man. I’d like to see the #s.
💯 all the people who voted for Biden, especially Dems, should have showed up and voted for Kamala! I’m angry at them. IDK how any Dem, especially in a swing state, who woke up to him as president in 2016 and lived through his presidency, could not vote for her 😭
So something I feel like has changed since 2016 and 2020 is people’s relationship with religion. Do people really feel like thoughts and prayers are working? I feel like yes. At least here Christianity is really part of white and Latin culture. Somehow the Republicans seem to have a chokehold on that and voting followed.
Until we can separate church and government I don’t know we can elect another Democrat. I think Biden only win in 2020 due to circumstances and being an avid church goer.
I don’t know if this is the right place for this conversation but religion is being touched on here and it’s been on my mind for months.
That's part of the problem. Over 15 million people that voted for Biden in 2020 stayed home in 2024. That was the problem. A comedian I follow on Threads (Steve Hoffsteader) said this:
While commentators were stumbling all over themselves to give Trump credit for reaching new voters and forming coalitions and all kinds of other stuff that never happened, the truth is that Trump won because 15 million people who voted for Biden didn't vote for Harris.
The good news is that the feeling of dread from Trump growing his base is unfounded. But that doesn't change the outcome. 15 million people made the choice to let someone else decide this for them and the rest of us have to live with that choice.
My predictions for this were wrong. I'm not upset about being wrong but I am upset about why. 15 million people decided that apathy or "protest" or indecision was more important than being a part of democracy. There are no more Trumpers than there were 4 years ago. But something I couldn't predict was 15 million non-Trumpers who simply couldn't be bothered.
I mean former 2020 🍊 voters who finally had the last straw with Covid, January 6th, classified documents or felony convictions. It’s like they got amnesia in the past few months and were like, well things are expensive, Biden hasn’t fixed everything, blame him, gotta vote for someone. Or people who saw his recent declining health, MSG rally or blowjob 🎤 incident and couldn’t bring themself to vote for a Dem should have at least had the conscience to not vote. Makes me think some Republicans against Trump were lying or didn’t show up. Maybe they’d only vote for Biden, a man. I’d like to see the #s.
💯 all the people who voted for Biden, especially Dems, should have showed up and voted for Kamala! I’m angry at them. IDK how any Dem, especially in a swing state, who woke up to him as president in 2016 and lived through his presidency, could not vote for her 😭
I said on Monday to my friend that my concern was Dems have forgotten how angry they were in 2020. I don't understand how but here we are.
I always said we win Dem races with big turnout. I thought the excitement around Kamala was enough to do that. I was wrong. If turnout was worse than 2020 for both sides, that means Biden likely would have had the same result and the reason there was not enough Dem excitement for him was a lot of unhappiness and apathy with the administration. Protest to stop the g-cide in Gaza was not addressed in the way it needed to be, in a timely manner. I actually think the switch to Kamala started to turn the tide on it and a lot of Jill Stein voters changed their mind to Kamala at the last minute, but clearly a lot sat out. There’s a changed demographic too. People died, people died from Covid, there’s new GenZ voters who primarily ID as Independent and we expected to vote D like midterms but guys voted R 😭
Post by definitelyO on Nov 6, 2024 12:44:00 GMT -5
I feel this is worse than 2016. because he is worse and he has surrounded himself with more horrible people and these horrible have an actual agenda now. nightmare
2016 DEVASTATED me. 2024 I'm fucking pissed. I had a rage dream during the very small amount of time I slept. Fuck you people worried about your groceries, I hope they stay expensive for you.
And Ohio is such a fucking embarrassment I can't stand it.
This is me too.
I screaming FUCK YOU to all the racist, homophobic, misogynistic assholes out there in this country who voted for this CONVICTED RAPIST!
If I could, I would rent a billboard with this same message.
They see their groceries are higher now because things like gas and eggs and milk are weekly purchases, but they don't consider all the long term cost increases that will be so, so much worse. Tariffs could mean $4000 iphones. Cuts to social security, medicare, and medicare mean mom or grandma has to live with them instead of at an independent living facility (that's definitely going to increase that grocery bill, and probably utilities, and possibly housing costs too if you have to move). Rolling back the ACA will once again make healthcare costs out of reach for millions.
Fuck all the misogyny.
Fuck all the the ignorance.
Today, fuck everything.
They are too fucking stupid to even know how a tarriff works.
I have experienced the initial rage (it’s still there) about this means for basic human rights but a new worry has set in for me personally.
I make 75% of our household income in an industry very dependent on the economy. If Elon does his “short term destroying the economy to build back better” he will destroy my industry and possibly my job. My long term fear if my job survives the economy is how many rights will women lose? Enough that we won’t be allowed to work?
Someone here said it a recently, that the level of constant anxiety we had during his first term is unsustainable again. Every day was spent wondering what terrible thing he was going to do next.
So something I feel like has changed since 2016 and 2020 is people’s relationship with religion. Do people really feel like thoughts and prayers are working? I feel like yes. At least here Christianity is really part of white and Latin culture. Somehow the Republicans seem to have a chokehold on that and voting followed.
Until we can separate church and government I don’t know we can elect another Democrat. I think Biden only win in 2020 due to circumstances and being an avid church goer.
I don’t know if this is the right place for this conversation but religion is being touched on here and it’s been on my mind for months.
It’s a huge issue. GenZ men are suddenly going to church at higher rates than GenZ women and that was the opposite with Millennials. I guess we should have known they’d lean R. Christian Nationalism reinforces the white male patriarchy and is so tied to politics.
I keep telling people, for the R party that used to be so vocal about 2nd Amendment Rights, they certainly are infringing on my 1st Amendment Rights - The Right to Free Speech and Freedom of Religion, which is the freedom to practice any religion or no religion at all. Emphasis on NO RELIGION AT ALL. That’s a possible question on the citizen exam. It also ties into @abortion. We need separation of church and state, not mandatory bibles with the constitution for every @ public school student and banned books (although I’m fine with a school library having a copy of a variety of religious texts for reference).
I keep hearing Kamala in my head saying "your vote is your voice". More than half of this country has spoken loud and clear and that makes me simultaneously sad and scared. The next four years are going to be unprecedented and I fear for everyone in my life who is a non-cis white male.
I believe yesterday was our last presidential election. So I fear for all non-cis white males for the rest of the foreseeable future.
Don't forget white women. They (we) voted him in. I'm surrounded by them and I don't know how I'm going to move forward.