*~*OFFICIAL DEBATE THREAD*~*

[pixy0stix]

Oct 3, 2012 21:33:35 GMT -5 arborgold said:

Oct 3, 2012 21:32:35 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I really don't trust the states to pull together enough to craft their own health care systems.

Does anyone, really? I mean, REALLY?

I'm thinking of TX's latest move in re: women's healthcare here, specifically...

Not only that, but some state's gov. has been painfully gutted. CO is running on a skeleton staff with not enough manpower as it is. Add in the expectation of even lower taxes (helleeeer! tax breaks mean less taxes), and the situation isn't going to resolve itself anytime soon.

But yes, lets burden the states with developing and running their own health care systems. Wonderful plan!

[UMaineTeach]

Oct 3, 2012 21:33:58 GMT -5 teflep said:

Right,so it is not on his/her IEP so it can be a supplemental.
You can not overlap services on both. The guidance (Title I) and law (IDEA) are very clear on this fact.

:Y:
if you have tier 3 intervention you don't need tier 2 intervention for the same thing.

[heightsyankee]

Oct 3, 2012 21:34:07 GMT -5 @mx said:

Oct 3, 2012 21:32:09 GMT -5 heightsyankee said:

4 hour nap?!?!

::grumble grumble hates on mx grumble grumble::

Yesterday I worked until 2 am so...it was less a nap and more passing out fully clothed and waking up in my own drool. Going back to bed now!

ok. forgiven. "nap" cues automatic jealousy issues for this insomniac.

[KateAggie]

Were Mass. schools #1 when he was gov.? That's how I took it.

[teflep]

Could be, KA

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Oct 3, 2012 21:21:32 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Oct 3, 2012 21:19:16 GMT -5 sandsonik said:

I think Romney is probably winning this debate, if anyone actually managed to stay awake through it. Winning more on style points than anything else, really. Obama's stammering is maddening and Romney is more confident and on the attack

I agree, but that's because Obama isn't saying "he's promising you the moon and hasn't explained at all how he'll pay for that or make it happen!"

Exactly. Obama let him get away with a LOT, like "Obama is taking 716 million away from old people" and the death panel crap that he didn't come out against strongly enough, IMO.

There was other stuff like that, but I can't remember it now. Romney was sharper, and spoke quicker (and overlooked the time rules) to get all his points in. Obama is ahead in the polls and was just trying to get through this without any big gaffes. At this point, these debates can only help Romney and only hurt Obama.

[aurora]

Oct 3, 2012 21:34:07 GMT -5 blindyswife said:

Ugh, I feel sorry for Mitt's kids having to be there. What a boring thing to sit through when you're, what, 8?

I was assuming these were his grandkids. Doesn't he just have 5 sons, all of whom are adult or near-adult?

Signed,
Much too lazy to use Google

[Knight]

My tin-foil hat says that Obama threw the debate to destroy him in the next 2. There is no way he did this badly.

[teflep]

Oct 3, 2012 22:13:19 GMT -5 Knight said:

My tin-foil hat says that Obama threw the debate to destroy him in the next 2. There is no way he did this badly.

maybe but that would be ridiculous. You're the president, running against a week candidate, and you can't speak to what you did without short skip answers?

[ESF]

Oct 3, 2012 21:38:31 GMT -5 KateAggie said:

Were Mass. schools #1 when he was gov.? That's how I took it.

Not sure. I thought Connecticut has always had the best public schools. Or so says my MA teacher sister who tried to get a CT teaching job back when she finished college in 2002. Anecdotes ftw!

[NitaX]

Oct 3, 2012 21:23:32 GMT -5 teflep said:

Oct 3, 2012 21:22:35 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

that was Clinton, or maybe the first years of Bush, I'm pretty sure.

Nope, it was in 2007.

Totally Anecdotal - but my SL were under Clinton. My interest rate was under 2.5%. My H's loans were under Bush. His are 6.8%.

[KateAggie]

Oct 3, 2012 22:13:19 GMT -5 Knight said:

My tin-foil hat says that Obama threw the debate to destroy him in the next 2. There is no way he did this badly.

How would that benefit him? Counting on people to watch all 3 debates, hoping people forget the 1st one...I don't understand the train of thought.

[Deleted]

Oct 3, 2012 22:26:06 GMT -5 ESF said:

Oct 3, 2012 21:38:31 GMT -5 KateAggie said:

Were Mass. schools #1 when he was gov.? That's how I took it.

Not sure. I thought Connecticut has always had the best public schools. Or so says my MA teacher sister who tried to get a CT teaching job back when she finished college in 2002. Anecdotes ftw!

Mass has always had top rated schools, long before he was governor and since then too.

[Here]

I don't understand the over emphasis on state rights/control. To me, a national healthcare solution seems to be more efficient and will not distinguish between what state you are in. Why reinvent the wheel 50 times over?

And mitt never seems to have a nice thing to say about the government workers.

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Oct 4, 2012 5:48:24 GMT -5 Here said:

I don't understand the over emphasis on state rights/control. To me, a national healthcare solution seems to be more efficient and will not distinguish between what state you are in. Why reinvent the wheel 50 times over?

And mitt never seems to have a nice thing to say about the government workers.

I feel like the 10th Amendment sort of died in 1865 with the enactment of the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments.

[Deleted]

Oct 3, 2012 21:15:21 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Also for those watching the Colorado Independent-O-Meter on CNN - it seems that women <3 Obama and men <3 Romney. Remember that CO is like 3% minority, so those men are all white guys. HTH.

I'm just catching up on this thread, but are you sure? I could swear NPR said a much higher figure than that this week for Latinos in Colorado and speculated that the state could hinge on their vote.