UO Thursday? NSOR

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Not sure if you had a specific day for it or if a mod has to do it, but here goes:


Minor:
Second chances are great things, but there is a difference between giving someone who made a mistake a second chance and someone who clearly hurt you because they don't care about you a second chance.

Minor:
I think attachment parenting is creepy.

Major:
I fully believe that if you are prescribed a medication, you need to take the medication. If you really feel that it is a bad choice for you, go BACK to your doctor or get another doctors opinion. Don't rely on you, your therapist, your mother, your bother, that weird guy next door, internet friends, your step sister in law twice removed. They are more than likely NOT professionals and could give you harmful, perhaps DEADLY, advice.

As someone who has many dealings with this from other people and personal experience, I'm just going to say that there is a HUGE difference between a councilor/therapist and your psychiatrist/doctor. What you do with your body and mind doesn't just affect you, it affects your family, friends, children, work life, ect. So, if you have PTSD plus depression, and you have been given a regimen to do, whether it be pills, intensive therapy, what have you; You need to do it. If you sincerely feel that you don't, get a second opinion. Good doctors do NOT prescribe these things lightly.

I honestly see this most with people who have been prescribed psychiatric drugs, therapy, ect. People tell them "You seem better!" and so they then stop taking their doctor's advice. Let me put it this way: You wouldn't tell an asthmatic to stop taking their daily inhaler, would you? Then, why would you tell someone else to stop taking their medication for their anxiety related disorder?




Annnnnd... go.

Edit:
The purpose of this is to state your UO - Unpopular Opinion.
Voice your opinion, that is what this is for, but don't just go starting an argument for the sake of arguing. It is more or less a giant "lets get this off our chest" vent.

[blackkitty]

So do we tell you why we think your UO is crazy or just post our own ridiculous opinions?

[lovelybb]

What do UO mean? Thanks!

[blackkitty]

May 24, 2012 9:34:57 GMT -5 lovelybb said:

What do UO mean? Thanks!

Uneducated opinion

[lovelybb]

Got it! Now I'm educated

[turtle1120]

May 24, 2012 9:36:12 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 9:34:57 GMT -5 lovelybb said:

What do UO mean? Thanks!

Uneducated opinion

I thought it meant Unpopular Opinion. I've see these done on other boards and they usually start a shitstorm of arguments.

[roselis]

UO = Unpopular opinion.
On my birth month board, we post this every Tuesday. You post you UO and can reply to other UOs

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May 24, 2012 9:36:12 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 9:34:57 GMT -5 lovelybb said:

What do UO mean? Thanks!

Uneducated opinion

Actually its unpopular opinion.

It also isn't uneducated. If you are talking about my views on medication, ask you doctor about it. They will tell you the same thing.

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May 24, 2012 9:24:01 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

So do we tell you why we think your UO is crazy or just post our own ridiculous opinions?

Post your own ridiculous opinions. Though you are free to call me crazy, as well.

Edit:
Also, generally, on the forums I've been on, you post and don't start an argument. At least try not to. By all means, voice your opinion, that is what this is for, but don't just go starting an argument for the sake of arguing. It is more or less a giant "lets get this off our chest" vent.

[roselis]

My UO - I think there is such a thing as innocent flirting. Flirt with no expectations beyond an ego boost.

[blackkitty]

May 24, 2012 9:40:37 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

May 24, 2012 9:24:01 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

So do we tell you why we think your UO is crazy or just post our own ridiculous opinions?

Post your own ridiculous opinions. Though you are free to call me crazy, as well.

You're crazy

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May 24, 2012 9:43:50 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 9:40:37 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

Post your own ridiculous opinions. Though you are free to call me crazy, as well.

You're crazy

Fair enough, I suppose! Can you explain why? I'm kind of curious why you think so.

[udscoobychick]

BK's post about CS rubbed me the wrong way. I guess it was because she was taking it beyond going after her XH and seemed gleeful at a chance to get at her XH's DW's money. That part of it bothered me. Possibly because I don't have kids, and I'm dating someone who does, and if BF's XW were trying to come after *my* money, I'd be pissed as hell. Flame away. <--flame-resistant sunglasses

[audg]

May 24, 2012 9:57:41 GMT -5 udscoobychick said:

BK's post about CS rubbed me the wrong way. I guess it was because she was taking it beyond going after her XH and seemed gleeful at a chance to get at her XH's DW's money. That part of it bothered me. Possibly because I don't have kids, and I'm dating someone who does, and if BF's XW were trying to come after *my* money, I'd be pissed as hell. Flame away. <--flame-resistant sunglasses

I couldn't disagree with you more here. I didn't respond to her post, but I didn't at all get a vibe from her that she was gleeful to take his new wife's money. He had a child with BK, that means HE is responsible for paying for said child. If he is not making enough money in order to support the kid, then DAM RIGHT his new wife is going to have to pay, as she is now legally obligated. These stupid men gotta get their shit together or the women involved with them have to be stuck paying..that's the way it works. Does it seem fair to her? No of course not if she was unaware of it, but I'm sure she knew what she was getting into. There is no way I would get married to a deadbeat with no job and who, not only doesn't pay his child support, but who is not active in their child's life.

[blackkitty]

May 24, 2012 9:57:41 GMT -5 udscoobychick said:

BK's post about CS rubbed me the wrong way. I guess it was because she was taking it beyond going after her XH and seemed gleeful at a chance to get at her XH's DW's money. That part of it bothered me. Possibly because I don't have kids, and I'm dating someone who does, and if BF's XW were trying to come after *my* money, I'd be pissed as hell. Flame away. <--flame-resistant sunglasses

She chooses to pay ALL of his other expenses. She supports him. Damn right she chooses to support him so he doesn't have to work, she chooses to support his kid too!

[Lauren88]

May 24, 2012 9:43:50 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 9:40:37 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

Post your own ridiculous opinions. Though you are free to call me crazy, as well.

You're crazy

I would like to know why you think she's crazy too because I didn't think that at all when I read her UO.

[Deleted]

May 24, 2012 9:41:23 GMT -5 @roselis said:

My UO - I think there is such a thing as innocent flirting. Flirt with no expectations beyond an ego boost.

Innocent flirting can happen and does happen a lot. Look at highschoolers; I see them do it allll the time. On the flipside, it can also be really destructive. It is a bit of a catch 22.

[turtle1120]

May 24, 2012 10:50:38 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

May 24, 2012 9:41:23 GMT -5 @roselis said:

My UO - I think there is such a thing as innocent flirting. Flirt with no expectations beyond an ego boost.

Innocent flirting can happen and does happen a lot. Look at highschoolers; I see them do it allll the time. On the flipside, it can also be really destructive. It is a bit of a catch 22.

I've been meaning to ask this since your FFFC, Roselis: didn't your ExH cheat on you with a friend of yours, and it all started as "innocent flirting"? Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else, but I thought that was your story so I'm very surprised that you're taking this stance in regard to flirting.

[blackkitty]

May 24, 2012 9:48:23 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

May 24, 2012 9:43:50 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

You're crazy

Fair enough, I suppose! Can you explain why? I'm kind of curious why you think so.

Because I've taken medications before based on doctor's prescriptions. And gotten second opinions too. And you know what happened? They MADE me crazy! I took meds for anxiety which caused depression and then spiraled into absolute insanity. I tried a million different combinations. And the only thing that worked? Not taking anything at all. I've been off those crazy meds for over a year and have never felt better.

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May 24, 2012 10:59:44 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 9:48:23 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

Fair enough, I suppose! Can you explain why? I'm kind of curious why you think so.

Because I've taken medications before based on doctor's prescriptions. And gotten second opinions too. And you know what happened? They MADE me crazy! I took meds for anxiety which caused depression and then spiraled into absolute insanity. I tried a million different combinations. And the only thing that worked? Not taking anything at all. I've been off those crazy meds for over a year and have never felt better.

I'm sorry, but your doctor wouldn't have prescribed that to you if he/she didn't think you needed it. However, you do bring up a good point about drug interactions! Some drugs work wonderfully for some people, and some don't or makes things even worse. Have you been re-evaluated since then? If you have, then you should be pleased to know some anxiety disorders are completely life-balance related. As in, once you remove a trigger from you life, your anxiety can lessen and/or disappear completely!

[blackkitty]

May 24, 2012 11:09:01 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

May 24, 2012 10:59:44 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

Because I've taken medications before based on doctor's prescriptions. And gotten second opinions too. And you know what happened? They MADE me crazy! I took meds for anxiety which caused depression and then spiraled into absolute insanity. I tried a million different combinations. And the only thing that worked? Not taking anything at all. I've been off those crazy meds for over a year and have never felt better.

I'm sorry, but your doctor wouldn't have prescribed that to you if he/she didn't think you needed it. However, you do bring up a good point about drug interactions! Some drugs work wonderfully for some people, and some don't or makes things even worse. Have you been re-evaluated since then? If you have, then you should be pleased to know some anxiety disorders are completely life-balance related. As in, once you remove a trigger from you life, your anxiety can lessen and/or disappear completely!

Yes, but just because they thought I needed it doesn't make it the right options for me. In fact it could end up being a collosal disaster and fuck up someone's life. Sometimes medications help. Sometimes medications do not. There's no cut and dry answer. That's why I think you are crazy because you make a blanket statement. It's never that cut and dry.

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May 24, 2012 10:55:25 GMT -5 turtle1120 said:

I've been meaning to ask this since your FFFC, Roselis: didn't your ExH cheat on you with a friend of yours, and it all started as "innocent flirting"? Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else, but I thought that was your story so I'm very surprised that you're taking this stance in regard to flirting.

Roselis: In your last post you mentioned that both you and your ExH 'innocently flirted.' You also said it was acceptable inside your social circle. If your ExH cheated on you, it seems weird that you would continue doing the thing that started his affair in the first place.

Something seems fishy.

[jm5855]

MY UO stems from Achase post regarding moving on from friends. So here goes:

I believe men are better at maintaing long term friendships than women. I dont know why but I have never seen anything to make me think otherwise.

I have had the same best friends for 20+ years. My brother is the same way his friends. My male cousin whom I am close with..same way.

Now most of the women I have known in my life are the opposite. My exwife lost touch with all her highschool/college friends...after our wedding its like they just stopped talking to one another. Other women I have dated were similar and my coworker female friends do not keep in touch with most of their HS/college friends. Seems like there was always some drama that caused the women to just move on from one another.

I dont own a flame retardant suit...so please fire away!!!

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May 24, 2012 11:13:20 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

May 24, 2012 11:09:01 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

I'm sorry, but your doctor wouldn't have prescribed that to you if he/she didn't think you needed it. However, you do bring up a good point about drug interactions! Some drugs work wonderfully for some people, and some don't or makes things even worse. Have you been re-evaluated since then? If you have, then you should be pleased to know some anxiety disorders are completely life-balance related. As in, once you remove a trigger from you life, your anxiety can lessen and/or disappear completely!

Yes, but just because they thought I needed it doesn't make it the right options for me. In fact it could end up being a collosal disaster and fuck up someone's life. Sometimes medications help. Sometimes medications do not. There's no cut and dry answer. That's why I think you are crazy because you make a blanket statement. It's never that cut and dry.

You are right, it never is that cut and dry. However, I'm still going to say that when a doctor tells you "please take this, this will ease/cure whatever symptoms you may be having" that you need to follow their advice. You happened to get a doctor who may not have known what they are doing but that is not true for a lot of people. You are right, making a blanket statement is wrong, because there are people like you who it hurts more than helps, that doesn't prove my point wrong though.

[cemacmil]

May 24, 2012 11:16:35 GMT -5 jm5855 said:

MY UO stems from Achase post regarding moving on from friends. So here goes:

I believe men are better at maintaing long term friendships than women. I dont know why but I have never seen anything to make me think otherwise.

I have had the same best friends for 20+ years. My brother is the same way his friends. My male cousin whom I am close with..same way.

Now most of the women I have known in my life are the opposite. My exwife lost touch with all her highschool/college friends...after our wedding its like they just stopped talking to one another. Other women I have dated were similar and my coworker female friends do not keep in touch with most of their HS/college friends. Seems like there was always some drama that caused the women to just move on from one another.

I dont own a flame retardant suit...so please fire away!!!

Disagreeing to a point here. I think men appear to have longer lasting friendships because it's more of a "since I knew you since I was 7 and you saved my ass, I will always have your back bro" kind of friendship.

I think women are more geared toward a few long-lasting friendships (kind of like we are with relationships) that actually mean a sister-hood type of thing and when we run into something with a new friend that rubs us the wrong way - done, save your drama for your mama - type of thing.

I think you need to really look at the number of long, 5-10+ years, friends you have. You might find you have a couple of those, then a few more buddies who you just hang with but wouldn't take a bullet for, then a few more co-workers that you may hang out with occassionally. Kind of depends on what/who you count as friends/friendships.

[formerlyak]

May 24, 2012 10:15:53 GMT -5 audg said:

May 24, 2012 9:57:41 GMT -5 udscoobychick said:

BK's post about CS rubbed me the wrong way. I guess it was because she was taking it beyond going after her XH and seemed gleeful at a chance to get at her XH's DW's money. That part of it bothered me. Possibly because I don't have kids, and I'm dating someone who does, and if BF's XW were trying to come after *my* money, I'd be pissed as hell. Flame away. <--flame-resistant sunglasses

I couldn't disagree with you more here. I didn't respond to her post, but I didn't at all get a vibe from her that she was gleeful to take his new wife's money. He had a child with BK, that means HE is responsible for paying for said child. If he is not making enough money in order to support the kid, then DAM RIGHT his new wife is going to have to pay, as she is now legally obligated. These stupid men gotta get their shit together or the women involved with them have to be stuck paying..that's the way it works. Does it seem fair to her? No of course not if she was unaware of it, but I'm sure she knew what she was getting into. There is no way I would get married to a deadbeat with no job and who, not only doesn't pay his child support, but who is not active in their child's life.

I hate when people talk about CS like it is the same in every state. It isn't. In some states the new spouse's income isn't a factor in determining child support at all.

[formerlyak]

May 24, 2012 11:21:16 GMT -5 @thepaingame said:

May 24, 2012 11:13:20 GMT -5 @blackkitty said:

Yes, but just because they thought I needed it doesn't make it the right options for me. In fact it could end up being a collosal disaster and fuck up someone's life. Sometimes medications help. Sometimes medications do not. There's no cut and dry answer. That's why I think you are crazy because you make a blanket statement. It's never that cut and dry.

You are right, it never is that cut and dry. However, I'm still going to say that when a doctor tells you "please take this, this will ease/cure whatever symptoms you may be having" that you need to follow their advice. You happened to get a doctor who may not have known what they are doing but that is not true for a lot of people. You are right, making a blanket statement is wrong, because there are people like you who it hurts more than helps, that doesn't prove my point wrong though.

My doctor told me to take birth control pills to not get pregnant. Fair enough. I took them as prescribed. My skin got rashy and puffy. So much so that I couldn't get my shoes on. I didn't go get the doc's permission to stop taking them because it was a weekend and I couldn't get a hold of him, and I didn't take them as prescribed and finish out the pack ... because they were making me sick and I know my body.

[starryfish]

I think the government should have the right to ban/force people to not have kids. I am thinking of people like the guy on the news in TN who has 30 kids and is only around 30 years old!

[chrissie3416]

MY 2 cents on some things:
Im with formerly on this one...I know in NY it doesnt work that way. If XH got married and couldnt pay support, his wife would have no obligation to pay me for our child.
JM-I disagree. All my close friends I have had for more than 10 years.
As for the medication issues...doctors are often wrong. I always get second and third opinions when it comes to stuff like this...
but thats just me.

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May 24, 2012 12:17:55 GMT -5 starryfish said:

I think the government should have the right to ban/force people to not have kids. I am thinking of people like the guy on the news in TN who has 30 kids and is only around 30 years old!

:Y:
Just because you can have kids, doesn't mean you should. Especially if you can't afford to take care of them.
Also; Octomom.