Sounds like it will be a rough start to life. Do you live in Chile?
Yes. Although we might be living in the US by the time we have kids. But we'll travel back to Chile if so and will travel to the US if we're still in Chile. This makes your plan of following gender norms so strictly sound harder, since those aren't necessarily the same in each country.
Awesome! I bet that is quite the adventure! I can understand that it might be hard, but I bet you can handle it, you seem to be quite capable.
So I chose to be a lesbian, but you did not choose your sexual orientation. How does that work, exactly?
I think that straight is the default and those who choose to be gay are making that choice, or something in their life influenced them to go away from the norm.
Haha, well from what people have told me, in Chile I could dress her in a lacy pink dress and still get "ohhhh, little boy!" if the baby doesn't have pierced ears. So I'm not sure how this affects my hypothetical daughter's sexuality odds. Maybe I should stick to just having a dog, it's less complicated.
Sounds like it will be a rough start to life. Do you live in Chile?
My daughter is screwed. I'm not piercing her ears, I hate big bows on babies, and I'll dress her in any old color. Apparently I choose the gay kid after all!
I'm not piercing my daughter's ears either. (We agree! Yay!)
I believe that being gay is a choice. So, I will choose to raise my son knowing that there are things that are for boys and things that are for girls. So yes, this conversation is difficult because you, and many others, don't think that being gay is a choice and I do.
Okay, let's say being gay is a choice and you teach your future children this. Why are you so confident that your children will follow everything you say?
Do you not think many parents have went with this approach and their child ended up being gay?
It's probably just one of those "you don't really know until you have them" kind of things. We will see. I don't think that they will do everything that I tell them to, but I hope to give them a solide foundation of values that we will follow.
I don't know. I guess if those parents are like many people here they wouldn't have the same approach I do. They are buying their sons Tinkerbell valentines and sparkly high heels.
Oh ok, now I understand. You just say things that do not relate to the topic at hand. So your question has nothing to do with your "raising my kid with straight values" comment, and your response to me has nothing to do with the points I raised. FYI, this makes sustaining a conversation difficult.
I believe that being gay is a choice. So, I will choose to raise my son knowing that there are things that are for boys and things that are for girls. So yes, this conversation is difficult because you, and many others, don't think that being gay is a choice and I do.
I agree that it must be difficult to be homosexual in this country, along with many other countries. I think that, no matter how it comes across on the internet, that I am a person who is not hateful, I don't hate gay people.
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
How can you teach him right and wrong when you clearly don't know yourself?
I do think that I know right from wrong. I am proud of who I am and who I was raised to be.
I'll be honest and say that I would choose to have a straight child rather than a gay child in our current society. That is 100% because I think that gay people deal with a lot of extra shit, much of it from people like soozy87, and has nothing to do with whether or not I recognize the possibility that a child of mine could be gay. Soozy, I really don't see what your question has to do with your stance on child-rearing and how you will magically shape your child's sexuality.
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
Right and wrong? You going to send him videos from the exstreme southern baptist convention on how to changes his evil ways? I have been to parties where we drink and gay men kiss every time they say "you can change". Of course, my son proudly carried his pink, princess umbrella everywhere today, and when people commented on how much they liked it, he proudly said, "thank you, my friend Shaun gave it to me.".
Nope, just going to raise him with the values that my husband and I share.
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
LOL! This always works out as planned!
If you could choose, would you choose to have a gay son?
I will. And I can assure you that he will always wear boy clothes and be attracted to girls. Thanks for your warm wishes!
Humor me. How do you plan to enforce this? You can't provide that assurance.
How will I enforce what? I don't think I will have to force him into anything. I will tell him what is right and what is wrong and we will teach him as he grows up.
Well in that case I'm just going to hope with all of my atheist hope that when and if you have a son you will love him no matter what he wants to wear or who he wants to sleep with when he's older.
I will. And I can assure you that he will always wear boy clothes and be attracted to girls. Thanks for your warm wishes!