Post by mcppalmbeach on May 13, 2024 16:59:28 GMT -5
A neighbor that I am friends with on Facebook posted that she had tickets for sale to Taylor Swift in a state that is not ours. I didn’t think to much of it as she has other daughter who live out of state. Anyway, I saw the post on her page and on markerplace. Long story short, her page was hacked and the hacker got like $1k out of people. Anyway, I know people want tickets so be careful out there! I know when I buy stuff off marketplace I feel better if I see it is a person I have mutual friends with so this might make people let their guard down .
Post by InBetweenDays on May 13, 2024 17:04:54 GMT -5
This happened to a friend of mine - her account was the one that was hacked. It was hacked almost a year ago, but Facebook has done nothing to help her get it back. She has contacted them SO many times and all of her friends have reported the account, but they haven't done anything. In the past few months her account has been used to scam numerous people out of money by selling fake TS tickets. Anyone who posted to warn others were then blocked by her account.
Post by wanderingback on May 13, 2024 17:14:04 GMT -5
Ugh that sucks!
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is a elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is a elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
Oh yes i understand that part but my question is about logistics- do you pay first and never get tickets or do you pay and then get a fake email that doesn’t work? I’m not too familiar with Facebook marketplace but there’s a local family group where people sell stuff and everyone meets and exchanges the item while paying so you can see it’s real. So I guess buying tickets online there usually no in person exchange? What I’m asking, is even if you know the person, how do you confirm the tickets are real?
Post by dancingnancy on May 13, 2024 20:27:31 GMT -5
Wow - I literally just saw this. I live in a rural area and it was on a local page owned by a wealthy couple that bought a home and renovated it and created the page to follow their progress, so when I first saw the post I assumed it was them and for 2 seconds I almost fell for it until I realized it was someone else’s name posting on their page. Crazy it’s running rampant enough for a few of us to see it so closely together.
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is an elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
I’ve heard of so many tickets scams for Taylor Swift in particular that I just would not do any kind of marketplace for them. Makes me so mad thinking it’s some poor mom thinking she gets to take her daughter and now she’s out cash and no tickets.
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is a elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
Oh yes i understand that part but my question is about logistics- do you pay first and never get tickets or do you pay and then get a fake email that doesn’t work? I’m not too familiar with Facebook marketplace but there’s a local family group where people sell stuff and everyone meets and exchanges the item while paying so you can see it’s real. So I guess buying tickets online there usually no in person exchange? What I’m asking, is even if you know the person, how do you confirm the tickets are real?
So we got scammed about a year ago, but since we had paid via Venmo with payment protection so we got the money back.
For us, they told us they were trying to transfer them but they were running in to a hiccup where they needed our license number to transfer them. Right away, we refused and asked them to send the money back. They kept insisting and we just kept asking them to send the money back and then they blocked us.
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
I reached out to a friend of a friend of a friend. My direct friend also reached out to her. She gave us different prices for the Taylor Swift tickets she was selling. I said I wanted to use PayPal Goods and Services (not friends and family, so I would be able to get refunded if there's an issue). They insisted on Venmo so I said no thanks, good luck with the tickets. The whole time it was taking 3-4 hours to respond, then when I said I wasn't going to buy them they started blowing up my inbox. It was wild
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
I would say the problem is that people are scammers! But I think a lot of people are not as sophisticated as you may think when it comes to this kind of thing. I don’t think it’s that they aren’t bothering, it is that they just don’t know. The wife is my H just got scammed and they lost a five figure amount bc she got a call from the bank that said she had fraud in her account and needed to reset her passcode. They knew all kinds of information about her and the account, it came from a legit looking number. She is smart and knows that you shouldn’t be getting calls from the bank, but in the moment she just was thinking oh no; I need to reset my account.
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is a elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
This is exactly what happened to my sister and me - she had mutual friends with the seller, who lived in her neighborhood and was selling in a closed neighborhood group. The seller suggested sending half the money for half the tickets so everyone could know it was legit before paying the other half.
We paid $800 for two of the four tickets she said she had, and after my sister sent her the money via Venmo, the "seller" claimed they couldn't send only 2 tickets due to a Ticketmaster rule so they needed the money for all four in order to send anything. This was a huge red flag to me since I have done many transactions through Ticketmaster and knew that wasn't how it works! Thankfully we did not send the other $800 we had planned on, but that first payment is just gone. This happened right after Christmas so I guess this scam has been running for months.
Its a good scam. Those tickets are so hard to come by that you feel like you have to jump on them when you see them, so there is no time to think it over. It never occurred to me before, but I wonder if the same post even scams multiple people - who is to say nobody else in her neighborhood also sent money?
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
Share with the group! What are the steps??
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
Like what? As I mentioned in another post, my sister and I fell for this scam. I think I'm fairly savvy with concert tickets (I've bought, sold, and transferred a number of them) but aside from meeting face to face with the seller, I don't really know how this could have been avoided. At the time we hadn't heard of this scam.
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
This would never occur to me. I don't think I like any band/musician enough to want to go to these lengths.
I feel for people who fall for this, I consider myself pretty scam wary and if I "knew" the person it would definitely make me drop my guard.
Excuse my ignorance but how does one buy tickets online from a "random" seller and know it’s not a scam? Do you see the tickets first before paying? Even then, I would think scammers are able to duplicate ticket emails and/or paper tickets. It sucks it’s hard to trust people in these situations!
With my friend - all the communication was through Facebook and then they paid through Zelle or Venmo. My friend is a elementary school teacher and had many Facebook friends and was part of various Facebook groups for our schools. So people saw they had friends in common (one person even texted another mutual friend and said "Hey do you know SL? They're selling TS tickets - are they a legit person?" The mutual friend said yes because they didn't realize the account had been hacked. So they didn't feel it was a "random" seller.
There were certainly red flags in my mind (like, maybe take the messaging off Facebook just to be sure before paying $1k) but I can also see how people thought they were being relatively careful.
Yes my friend is an elementary special ed teacher and her acquaintance that was "selling" the tickets was also an elementary school teacher at a different district. I felt totally fine because they're teachers! Until I offered to use a comfortable payment AND pay extra for the fee and she said no.
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
but what if you send the money and the person doesn’t finalize the transfer? I’ve seen people get scammed in a similar way for Pokémon trades lol
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
but what if you send the money and the person doesn’t finalize the transfer? I’ve seen people get scammed in a similar way for Pokémon trades lol
These are the steps to follow to confirm the tickets are real. If they never send the tickets the PayPal goods and services provides the protection for you to get your money back.
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
This would never occur to me. I don't think I like any band/musician enough to want to go to these lengths.
I feel for people who fall for this, I consider myself pretty scam wary and if I "knew" the person it would definitely make me drop my guard.
Me neither, but with people paying $2k per ticket for Taylor Swift you wanna do what you can to not lose that money. I have looked in to it as DD is a Swiftie but I would never spend that kind of money on any artist.
That's been going on since last year. There are very simple steps to take to make sure the tix are legit and it's not a scammer, and the problem is that no one bothers to do that.
I would say the problem is that people are scammers! But I think a lot of people are not as sophisticated as you may think when it comes to this kind of thing. I don’t think it’s that they aren’t bothering, it is that they just don’t know. The wife is my H just got scammed and they lost a five figure amount bc she got a call from the bank that said she had fraud in her account and needed to reset her passcode. They knew all kinds of information about her and the account, it came from a legit looking number. She is smart and knows that you shouldn’t be getting calls from the bank, but in the moment she just was thinking oh no; I need to reset my account.
The other problem is that people think they're too smart to be caught by scammers. This happened with my H who participated in *several* scams because he thought he could outsmart them/knew what to look for. I had a hell of a time getting him convinced that he'd been scammed after he thought he did his due diligence. (AKA I had to call his mom to help me in an intervention. She had no clue what was going on even after I explained it all to her, but she jarred him enough that he started listening to me that it was all a scam.)
Back to the original thread, even though it's more $$ I always go through reputable third party ticket seller sites like SeatGeek and StubHub. They guarantee your money back if the tickets aren't transferred.
Post by wesleycrusher on May 14, 2024 13:18:11 GMT -5
This happened to my sister on facebook marketplace, although it was not for concert tickets. It was a vanity she was trying to get for a room in her house.
From what I have seen, it is to do a video call - must be a live call, not them sending you a video - of them logging in to their Ticketmaster account, clicking the transfer link, and typing in your email…basically getting right up to the point of transferring the tix, then you pay with PayPal goods and services.
Pretty much this. They have to show you them opening their TM app from their home screen, scrolling to the tickets, opening the tickets and showing them. You also want to have them forward you the confirmation e-mail of them purchasing the tickets or receiving them as a transfer from someone else. Not a screenshot, an actual e-mail. You can't access the tickets thru the e-mail, but it is proof that they were purchased thru TM
There's an account on Twitter that helps facilitate these sales for face value only - @ ErasTourResell - they vet all the sellers as well. But they'll also explain how they do it.
Back to the original thread, even though it's more $$ I always go through reputable third party ticket seller sites like SeatGeek and StubHub. They guarantee your money back if the tickets aren't transferred.
Agreed, only buy through reputable sites. I have the best luck with TickPick, but I’m not buying these high of value tickets.
I thought FB marketplace actually didn’t allow ticket sales because it’s so easy to scam?
Back to the original thread, even though it's more $$ I always go through reputable third party ticket seller sites like SeatGeek and StubHub. They guarantee your money back if the tickets aren't transferred.
Agreed, only buy through reputable sites. I have the best luck with TickPick, but I’m not buying these high of value tickets.
I thought FB marketplace actually didn’t allow ticket sales because it’s so easy to scam?
This would normally be a no brainer, but the Eras tour resale tickets are next level expensive. The ones my sister and I were scammed about were face value tickets for $400 that would have easily been 2k+ on a resale site. Obviously we got scammed so it wasn't an actual good deal - but it's clear why someone would not want to pay 5x an already expensive price.
After this experience I officially gave up my dream of seeing the Eras tour, though. I am not willing to pay what resellers charge and I no longer trust that a fellow swiftie would just be kind enough to sell her tickets for face value to someone in her neighborhood. Scammers truly do ruin so many things.
Eta: oh and at least in our case, it wasn't actually a Marketplace post - just a general neighborhood post. Maybe that's how they get around the rule?