Dh worried about this when he started his new job. Since there wasn't anything he could do about it he figured he would just try for an increase at his first annual review. DH was able to find out the salary of the person he replaced and his salary is 20% less than that person. The previous person was there for about 8 years so he expected the salary to be higher but he is hoping for at least a 5% increase at his review since he does have more education than the last person.
Post by phunluvin82 on Dec 7, 2012 13:18:26 GMT -5
Well, I guess there's always a slim chance that you just happened to quote the max that they were willing to pay...but if they agreed to it right away, no negotiation, no hesitation, then yeah, I think it most likely means you could have gotten more.
I used to until I started to work in recruiting. Then I realized the salary question was more of a "are you a crazy person who overvalues their worth?" than a "lets see how little I can pay the candidate and still make them happy"
Dh worried about this when he started his new job. Since there wasn't anything he could do about it he figured he would just try for an increase at his first annual review. DH was able to find out the salary of the person he replaced and his salary is 20% less than that person. The previous person was there for about 8 years so he expected the salary to be higher but he is hoping for at least a 5% increase at his review since he does have more education than the last person.
I hope he's aiming higher than 5% though...esp with more education than the last person?
Dh worried about this when he started his new job. Since there wasn't anything he could do about it he figured he would just try for an increase at his first annual review. DH was able to find out the salary of the person he replaced and his salary is 20% less than that person. The previous person was there for about 8 years so he expected the salary to be higher but he is hoping for at least a 5% increase at his review since he does have more education than the last person.
I hope he's aiming higher than 5% though...esp with more education than the last person?
He is hoping for more than 5% especially since he has saved them well over $1mil since he started earlier this year. However, they are half state gov't./half private company so they have had a freeze on all pay increases since 2009. For that reason it would be great for him to get anything.
I asked for more and got shot down. Apparently what they offered was the highest that position would pay. I took it anyway. The work life balance in my position is really great.
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As a manager, the last three people (interestingly, all men) I hired all asked for less than I had budgeted for the position. I gave them what they asked for (because I thought they deserved more), but I know some managers would offer less to leave room for negotiation and come in under budget.
Few people try to negotiate. Hardly anyone asks for more vacation even though it's the easiest for me to give.
On the flip side, I've had some people ask for way, way more than the position paid.
For myself, I think I'm paid close to the most my particular company is willing to pay for my position, but I think I could get more elsewhere. I'm not inclined to change to another company right now though.
Post by mrssavy42112 on Dec 7, 2012 14:42:12 GMT -5
DH is having a hard time with this. He’s switching careers right now & has no formal education in the new field. So while he can find approx. salaries online, he has a hard time figuring out what would be a fair salary for someone on the new side like himself.
I've worked at two jobs. One I tried to negotiate and they wouldn't budge. The second I asked for a 30% raise and they gave it to me straight out. I probably could have gotten more but I was getting a huge raise so I never worried about it.
No, I asked for more than they could provide. I negotiated through a recruiter and my absolute, even considering lowest point was what we ended up with. I went with it because, as we all know, money isn't the only thing you can negotiate with and I know I made the right choice.
Post by SusanBAnthony on Dec 7, 2012 15:02:29 GMT -5
I got offered the middle of my range but still asked for more. I actually asked for more vacation, which they shot down. Instead they paid me more. It was bizarre. I came out ahead making more money- even if I took unpaid time off.
I've always been within the ballpark since my salaries are pretty much boxed in as a plebe. DH's salary for his current position was low; they made an offer, he countered at $10K more and they jumped at it. He got a $40K raise at the end of the year to put him within the band his boss thought he should be at (including a titular promotion). In his defense, he had still doubled his best year salary (including bonus...almost triple if you exclude bonuses) even at the "low" range since leaving his cheap former boss/partner and moving to BigLaw. And it was still more than he would have made as independent counsel for a former client, especially since they wanted him to pay all taxes and a big chunk of expenses. Looking back, it's no small wonder that they jumped at it. But for us it was win-win. (And yes, I was included in the discussions with DH. I'm generally the pusher in the relationship when it comes to these things.)