It was still her turn. I don't see the big deal but I've encountered it a lot and have done it before. It is very common here.
Do you have any idea how confusing it is remembering which side your gas tank is on when you switch cars almost daily? I don't think to look at the arrow because it's just habit.
I don't really care how confusing it is. I just think it is annoying to clog up traffic and make somebody else turn around and get all twitterpated because you can't remember which side your tank is on. Just pull through and turn around and wait five minutes.
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
The arrow points to the right (next to the gas pump icon) showing you that the gas cap will be on the right side of the car.
I only learned about the arrow a couple of years ago! I was driving our rental car and stopped the car so I could open the door and lean waaay out to try to see if the tank was on my side. DH was like, "uhhhh what are you doing?" When I explained he pointed out the arrow to me, and mind. blown.
I felt like such an idiot for never noticing the arrow. I had regularly pulled this maneuver to check the gas tanks of unfamiliar cars.
I think this is a weird thing to get upset about. I dont think she was rude and if someone pulled a gypsy on me for doing that i would think they were both rude and insane.
I understand it was odd but not worth thinking about beyond the time it happened.
I don't really care how confusing it is. I just think it is annoying to clog up traffic and make somebody else turn around and get all twitterpated because you can't remember which side your tank is on. Just pull through and turn around and wait five minutes.
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
I would have stayed in my place and pumped my gas. We have a chain of gas stations that offer a discount and they're always crowded. Once you pull out of a space, someone is going to take it. Everyone knows that. There's no space-holding. You avoid this problem by lining up on the right side in the first place.
But if you're asking if you should have pulled a Gypsy? No, why would you? If I understand it correctly, a proper Gypsy is issued in retalliation to an actual infringement like blocking your car or taking your parking space - not to some crazy person waving their arms. I thought you were going to say she pulled one on you first, because she felt - incorrectly - that the space should have remained hers even after she vacated it. But she didn't really do anything rude; just odd, out of place, and maaaybe a little entitled, but not even enough to be a big deal.
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
Lilly, you are correct. She had her turn, she did it wrong, and she lost it. When I read that you pulled away I was like "nooooo!" because I knew that meant you lost your turn too. The only real lesson to be learned here is once you have a space, don't leave it.
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
In my view, until she completed her gas-getting transaction, it was her turn. Some turns take longer than other turns.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
Lilly, you are correct. She had her turn, she did it wrong, and she lost it. When I read that you pulled away I was like "nooooo!" because I knew that meant you lost your turn too. The only real lesson to be learned here is once you have a space, don't leave it.
Yeah, I guess I thought there was some kind of serious problem by the way she was acting (like the pump would blow up if I used it lol). Then I was ticked because I felt like I'd been screwed out of my turn! And I was being tongue in cheek about pulling a gypsy...just wondering if others would have been ticked.
So for those of you who say she lost her turn by moving --
Say I'm parallel parking. I'm a terrible parallel parker, and sometimes (okay, a lot of the time) I do it so badly that I have to get out of the spot to start new. When that happens, should anyone who comes up on the block in the meantime be allowed to take the spot from me because I got out of it?
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
This would be the part that annoyed me.
But at the same time, everyone does something dumb every now and then. I wouldn't let it upset you too much.
But they were there first, so it is still their turn.
But once they move I consider it now their turn anymore. Plus since I then had to move out of the way, I lost MY turn because there was already a car behind me. Why should I have to lose my turn because of her screw up?
I don't think you should've lost your turn. If I'd been you (and I have been in the past), I'd have maneuvered just enough that she could've backed up just far enough for the gas pump to reach her tank. There's enough space there for you to back up at an angle and scoot around.
So for those of you who say she lost her turn by moving --
Say I'm parallel parking. I'm a terrible parallel parker, and sometimes (okay, a lot of the time) I do it so badly that I have to get out of the spot to start new. When that happens, should anyone who comes up on the block in the meantime be allowed to take the spot from me because I got out of it?
If it's still obvious that your car is heading for that spot and you just have to realign, which it would be in most parallel parking circumstances, then no, no one else should take it. But if you pull so far out of the spot that an approaching car thinks you're leaving, which is what happened in Lilly's case, then of course it's ok for them to take it. And once they're in it and parked, like Lilly was, the space is theirs. I mean, you wouldn't pull up to that car and say "that's my spot, it's still my turn" would you? Because that would be crazy. And if you wanted to make a U-turn and pull in facing the other direction, like Lilly's lady did, I can assure you that no reasonable person would expect the spot to be held for you.
The arrow points to the right (next to the gas pump icon) showing you that the gas cap will be on the right side of the car.
My mind is blown. I had no idea! Thank you.
The lady's reaction was a little silly. But I can sympathize. I always forget since I don't drive our cars very much.
Everyone make mistakes and I don't think they should be punished because they made a mistake. It sucks for lilly but hopefully someone would see what happened and let her jump in somewhere.
Now hopefully I will never make this mistake again.
So for those of you who say she lost her turn by moving --
Say I'm parallel parking. I'm a terrible parallel parker, and sometimes (okay, a lot of the time) I do it so badly that I have to get out of the spot to start new. When that happens, should anyone who comes up on the block in the meantime be allowed to take the spot from me because I got out of it?
If it's still obvious that your car is heading for that spot and you just have to realign, which it would be in most parallel parking circumstances, then no, no one else should take it. But if you pull so far out of the spot that an approaching car thinks you're leaving, which is what happened in Lilly's case, then of course it's ok for them to take it. And once they're in it and parked, like Lilly was, the space is theirs. I mean, you wouldn't pull up to that car and say "that's my spot, it's still my turn" would you? Because that would be crazy. And if you wanted to make a U-turn and pull in facing the other direction, like Lilly's lady did, I can assure you that no reasonable person would expect the spot to be held for you.
See, I disagree here. As I said before, I think it would have been smart for the woman to tell Lilly what she was about to do or gesture or something, but I don't think that turns are finder's keepers. The woman hadn't gotten gas yet -- why else would she pull away from the pump after waiting on line? And I think that the nice, orderly thing to do when something like this happens is for the car ahead of Lilly to be like "Oh, I'm so sorry -- I was just turning around!" and then for Lilly to be like "That's cool -- I'll back up then. Go ahead!" and then for the car behind Lilly to be like "Okay, I'll go back to my place as third in line" and so on. If there's anyone to be mad at here, it is the opportunistic person behind Lilly in line who took her turn.
I don't know, I just don't think that it makes sense for the rules of society to be that if you mess something up the person behind you is like "YOU MESSED UP SO NOW THIS IS MINE AND I'M NOT GIVING IT UP EVEN IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT YOU MESSED UP." I think people should just be like "Sorry, didn't understand what you were doing" and go back to the same order they were in before.
Same with the parking spot -- that you didn't know that I was backing out to go back in maybe excuses you from thinking the spot is yours and trying to take it, but once you became aware of what I was doing, I think that you should give it back to me and I should completely forgive you for starting to go into it.
No, why is this rude? Kudos to you for doing the right thing.
Boo to the people who try to jump the line by pulling in while the first person is turning their car around because the pump that opened up is on the wrong side for their car. Now that's super annoying.
If it's still obvious that your car is heading for that spot and you just have to realign, which it would be in most parallel parking circumstances, then no, no one else should take it. But if you pull so far out of the spot that an approaching car thinks you're leaving, which is what happened in Lilly's case, then of course it's ok for them to take it. And once they're in it and parked, like Lilly was, the space is theirs. I mean, you wouldn't pull up to that car and say "that's my spot, it's still my turn" would you? Because that would be crazy. And if you wanted to make a U-turn and pull in facing the other direction, like Lilly's lady did, I can assure you that no reasonable person would expect the spot to be held for you.
See, I disagree here. As I said before, I think it would have been smart for the woman to tell Lilly what she was about to do or gesture or something, but I don't think that turns are finder's keepers. The woman hadn't gotten gas yet -- why else would she pull away from the pump after waiting on line? And I think that the nice, orderly thing to do when something like this happens is for the car ahead of Lilly to be like "Oh, I'm so sorry -- I was just turning around!" and then for Lilly to be like "That's cool -- I'll back up then. Go ahead!" and then for the car behind Lilly to be like "Okay, I'll go back to my place as third in line" and so on. If there's anyone to be mad at here, it is the opportunistic person behind Lilly in line who took her turn.
The problem with this is that it isn't feasible at a busy gas station. I had no idea the woman hadn't already gotten gas. I was pulling up as she was getting into her car and pulling out. Then someone else pulled in behind me. Are they supposed to try to back up in the tiny area and then somehow let me back in while still keeping their spot (which will inevitably then be taking my some other person who pulls in not realizing what is going on...)? The thing is, SOMEONE is going to lose their spot and the polite thing is to let it be YOU if you are the one who screws up.
If it's still obvious that your car is heading for that spot and you just have to realign, which it would be in most parallel parking circumstances, then no, no one else should take it. But if you pull so far out of the spot that an approaching car thinks you're leaving, which is what happened in Lilly's case, then of course it's ok for them to take it. And once they're in it and parked, like Lilly was, the space is theirs. I mean, you wouldn't pull up to that car and say "that's my spot, it's still my turn" would you? Because that would be crazy. And if you wanted to make a U-turn and pull in facing the other direction, like Lilly's lady did, I can assure you that no reasonable person would expect the spot to be held for you.
See, I disagree here. As I said before, I think it would have been smart for the woman to tell Lilly what she was about to do or gesture or something, but I don't think that turns are finder's keepers. The woman hadn't gotten gas yet -- why else would she pull away from the pump after waiting on line? And I think that the nice, orderly thing to do when something like this happens is for the car ahead of Lilly to be like "Oh, I'm so sorry -- I was just turning around!" and then for Lilly to be like "That's cool -- I'll back up then. Go ahead!" and then for the car behind Lilly to be like "Okay, I'll go back to my place as third in line" and so on. If there's anyone to be mad at here, it is the opportunistic person behind Lilly in line who took her turn.
I don't know, I just don't think that it makes sense for the rules of society to be that if you mess something up the person behind you is like "YOU MESSED UP SO NOW THIS IS MINE AND I'M NOT GIVING IT UP EVEN IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT YOU MESSED UP." I think people should just be like "Sorry, didn't understand what you were doing" and go back to the same order they were in before.
Same with the parking spot -- that you didn't know that I was backing out to go back in maybe excuses you from thinking the spot is yours and trying to take it, but once you became aware of what I was doing, I think that you should give it back to me and I should completely forgive you for starting to go into it.
I think you're reading a lot into such a small thing. People wait in line, a spot opens up, they take it. I'm not really going to stop and analyze the intentions of the person leaving, and I'm not going to go to the back of the line for them. And asking everyone in the line to move back one place is an unrealistic expectation.
I think it's more rude to not be prepared for your turn and expect people to wait while you get your shit together, or to ask them all to move back for you so you can get your place back. If your turn arrives and you can't take it without inconveniencing everyone else in line, then give it up and try again.
If there wasn't another car behind me and I could back up so the goofball could get back to the pump w/o losing my spot, I'd move. If I'd lose my spot by moving my car, I wouldn't move and she'd be SOL.
I am with V, and I'll go a step further and say this is what pisses me off about our society/world today. Sure, it would have been nice of the woman to go wait in line because she messed up, but it also would have been nice of lilly to be understanding of the fact that she's human and let her turn around without getting upset about it. What happened to empathy and being kind to other people? I'm certainly not perfect and do dumb shit all the time, I give people the benefit of the doubt that they do sometimes too.
IWhat happened to empathy and being kind to other people?
I'm not going to sit and agonize about someone's intentions at a busy gas station. It has jack to do with empathy or being kind.
ETA: This isn't a situation where some lady's grocery bag burst all over the parking lot and lilly ran over her bread on purpose. It's about gas and lines.
Of course it isn't, but what does that have to do with anything
LOL. I just don't think it would have even registered with me.
I'll admit the fact that I had a crying toddler in the backseat may have upped my annoyance factor. Plus, I don't think I am adequately describing the show this woman was putting on. She was flailing around like a lunatic like I had done something wrong and it really rubbed me the wrong way.