I Got a Case, Right?

[simplyinpenguin]

I was told this afternoon by my manager that he was quitting (boo because he was really good and he kept bossman away from us as much as possible). He also mentioned that he wanted myself and another coworker to co-manage the place since we practically know everything. However, the manager told me that the boss wouldn't even consider it. Manager also said and, I quote: "no more women managers."

The women employees outnumber the male employees, yet there's not a single one of us in any position of leadership and, based on the comment, seems that no one is ever going to advance up into a supervisor positon. Bossman ends up bringing in one of his male buddies, who doesn't know the first thing about our business and was just in the way all day.

C'mon. I got a case for sexism right? I'm not going to actively pursue this, but it would be nice to know if I can use it as ammo should something happen, like him firing me because I'm working OT. All I care about is just getting out of there as soon as possible. Have an interview coming up so I'm reaaaalllly crossing my fingers hard.

[thinkofthesoldiers]

How in the world would you ever prove that he said that? How old are you?

[simplyinpenguin]

Ok. Forget the comment then. Wouldn't it be strange to you if you found out that none of the 6 women were in positions of leadership in comparison to the 3 men working there who are in leadership positions? Then bringing in someone, who doesn't know anything about the food industry, that's male? I would feel a little appalled, but that could be my feminist streak.

[Deleted]

If it were in an email you'd have something.

[Deleted]

not for grammar.


ETA:  and i'd consider myself to be one hugeass feminist, and there isn't a cause of action simply for "that guy is sexist".  nor for "but the other guy said that even though he was leaving, he WOULD promote me to fill his position but now he can't because he quit and therefore has no power anymore."

[thinkofthesoldiers]

Feb 13, 2013 21:02:44 GMT -5 simplyinpenguin said:

Ok. Forget the comment then. Wouldn't it be strange to you if you found out that none of the 6 women were in positions of leadership in comparison to the 3 men working there who are in leadership positions? Then bringing in someone, who doesn't know anything about the food industry, that's male? I would feel a little appalled, but that could be my feminist streak.

Your feminist streak? Really? *-)

[softspot]

I got?

[Deleted]

If we were talking about no manager women in a place of employment of 1,000 people it would be suspicious.

With a sample size of 9 you've got nothing. Sorry.

[simplyinpenguin]

Feb 13, 2013 21:14:47 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Feb 13, 2013 21:02:44 GMT -5 simplyinpenguin said:

Ok. Forget the comment then. Wouldn't it be strange to you if you found out that none of the 6 women were in positions of leadership in comparison to the 3 men working there who are in leadership positions? Then bringing in someone, who doesn't know anything about the food industry, that's male? I would feel a little appalled, but that could be my feminist streak.

He may be an asshole but is it possible these 3 men are just more qualified?

Far from it. Even the manager had no prior experience in the food industry before he was put in as manager. Even bossman admits that he knows nothing about the industry. He just has it there because it's the fad. Double businesses in one. We had a great female manager who took care of everything so efficiently that we never had to worry. Then bossman came back from his "hiatus" and just pushed her so hard, she quit. And it's been male managers ever since.

[simplyinpenguin]

yet another bummer reason that there's only 10 employees in 2 businesses. Hope I nail this interview.

[daisyheadmaizie]

Maybe it is the fact you called your boss a douche, and that you got caught doing so on camera that is preventing you from moving up in rank, not the fact that you are a woman.

[speckledfrog]

Doing what on camera?

[Deleted]

Feb 13, 2013 21:33:32 GMT -5 daisyheadmaizie said:

Maybe it is the fact you called your boss a douche, and that you got caught doing so on camera that is preventing you from moving up in rank, not the fact that you are a woman.

Gosh, OP sure didn't mention this little nugget.

[gozf]

Feb 13, 2013 21:33:32 GMT -5 daisyheadmaizie said:

Maybe it is the fact you called your boss a douche, and that you got caught doing so on camera that is preventing you from moving up in rank, not the fact that you are a woman.

I knew there was important backstory that I was forgetting....

Yeah. Calling the boss a douche is not a good career move.

[Jalapeñomel]

Feb 13, 2013 21:35:13 GMT -5 neener said:

Is this real life?

The dreaded: this.

[simplyinpenguin]

Yeah I called him a douche. It's tamer than what other employees have said about him. Sure it didn't help me, but whatever. Let him run the business into the ground. I'll be long gone by then.

[thinkofthesoldiers]

Feb 13, 2013 21:52:05 GMT -5 simplyinpenguin said:

Yeah I called him a douche. It's tamer than what other employees have said about him. Sure it didn't help me, but whatever. Let him run the business into the ground. I'll be long gone by then.

Probably not.

[TrickyBob]

Uh, calling your boss a douche absolutely warrants not moving up in your business. How is this a question?

When you get a new job, try not to insult your superiors and you may do better.

And just because everyone else does it, does not mean you should too!

[EmilieMadison]

How long have you been working there?

[ElizabethBennet]

Dude. It's SUBWAY.

[underwaterrhymes]

In all seriousness, you need to take this as a lesson.

You cannot call your boss (or your coworkers) douches and expect that you're going to be successful within your organization.

[thinkofthesoldiers]

Feb 13, 2013 22:02:01 GMT -5 ElizabethBennet said:

Dude. It's SUBWAY.

But...but...but...she's an artisteeeeee!

[daisyheadmaizie]

Feb 13, 2013 21:52:05 GMT -5 simplyinpenguin said:

Yeah I called him a douche. It's tamer than what other employees have said about him. Sure it didn't help me, but whatever. Let him run the business into the ground. I'll be long gone by then.

Head meet wall.

seriously?  This is why you are still working at subway and can't find another job. You need to grow up, and start taking responsibility for your own life and actions.

[olegregg]

Not everyone is cut out to be a manager. I'm pretty certain that managing has less to do (in this case) with just having experience in food service, and more in handling difficult situations with people, showing them respect while gaining it from them.

[Deleted]

How old are you again?

[ElizabethBennet]

And I'm lol'ing that one manager is going to "run the business into the ground."

[janiejones]

Feb 13, 2013 22:16:49 GMT -5 ElizabethBennet said:

And I'm lol'ing that one manager is going to "run the business into the ground."

And a well known franchise with strict formulas, policies and major national advertising campaigns no less.

[Deleted]

And the title is irking me.

I've got a case. Not I got.

[Deleted]

Feb 13, 2013 22:26:10 GMT -5 janiejones said:

Feb 13, 2013 22:16:49 GMT -5 ElizabethBennet said:

And I'm lol'ing that one manager is going to "run the business into the ground."

And a well known franchise with strict formulas, policies and major national advertising campaigns no less.

In her defense, it is not, in fact, Subway, but it's a Subway-esque sandwich shop!  See, totally different!

[Deleted]

Lol