So, we've discussed intermittent fasting, but what about

[robin]

IF with bulletproof coffee?

What are your thoughts?
www.bulletproofexec.com/bulletproof-fasting/

[katinthehat]

butter in my coffee? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Wines Not Whines]

Oh Lord.

Truth be told, when I unofficially did IF many years ago (unofficially because I basically skipped breakfast because I was never hungry for it; I had no clue what IF was at the time), I did drink coffee with a little bit of milk and sugar in the morning. But I just drank regular coffee. Anything with caffeine!

[mainewifey]

That just sounds gross,although the reviews seem to suggest it's pretty good. I'm pretty sure that my heart wouldn't be able to handle all of that caffeine, and I can't imagine drinking coffee all day long and then trying to go to sleep.

What exactly is there to prove that these coffee beans are so much better than others? I didn't really read anything in the story that says that there's a coffee bean police out there.

[naldridge]

I've heard that it's actually pretty good and am interested in possibly trying it. I like regular coffee though, so I'm not sure it would be worth it - I've heard of using coconut oil or coconut butter instead of regular butter and that sounds MUCH more interesting to me. Butter. Bleh.

[breezy8407]

I love coffee, and find that it does work to suppress my appetite if I have a lot. My question is could you do the same thing without buying their product? My guess is yes.

I would be curious to taste it.

[MrsManners]

I've made something similar with coconut oil, but have yet to try with grassfed butter. I frequently do IF and put coconut milk in my coffee.

ETA: I use my regular coffee, not a specialty coffee

[wambam]

OMG, it's so delicious. Like for serious, I want to bathe in a giant tub of it. *drool*

ETA: You can definitely do it with any coffee you want. You don't have to buy their product.

[robin]

And only eating from 2pm to 8pm?

[wambam]

I've never followed the IF recommendations that go along with Bulletproof. When I drink it, it's just to get more fat in my diet, as well as Omega-3s from the grassfed butter.

[finallykrisb]

The site is blocked by my work filter under the category "Illegal Dugs". ^o)

[katinthehat]

Apr 29, 2013 14:33:30 GMT -5 wambam said:

OMG, it's so delicious. Like for serious, I want to bathe in a giant tub of it. *drool*

ETA: You can definitely do it with any coffee you want. You don't have to buy their product.

so you would just add butter to your regular coffee?

[katinthehat]

Apr 29, 2013 14:41:33 GMT -5 robin said:

And only eating from 2pm to 8pm?

I wonder if you could do it if you just ate from 1 pm to 7pm?  or is there something magical about 2 to 8?

[Wines Not Whines]

Apr 29, 2013 14:51:45 GMT -5 finallykrisb said:

The site is blocked by my work filter under the category "Illegal Dugs".

This is hilarious.

[wambam]

Apr 29, 2013 16:34:59 GMT -5 katinthehat said:

Apr 29, 2013 14:33:30 GMT -5 wambam said:

OMG, it's so delicious. Like for serious, I want to bathe in a giant tub of it. *drool*

ETA: You can definitely do it with any coffee you want. You don't have to buy their product.

so you would just add butter to your regular coffee?

Grassfed, unsalted butter plus coconut oil, then blended with a hand blender. You can't just stir it, you have to blend it.

[finallykrisb]

Apr 29, 2013 18:47:38 GMT -5 wambam said:

Apr 29, 2013 16:34:59 GMT -5 katinthehat said:

so you would just add butter to your regular coffee?

Grassfed, unsalted butter plus coconut oil, then blended with a hand blender. You can't just stir it, you have to blend it.

katinthehat, at our next girls night we can try this! 

[pixy0stix]

Sounds like another fad to push a product.

[wambam]

Apr 30, 2013 12:04:06 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Sounds like another fad to push a product.

*shrug* Like I said earlier, you don't have to buy their coffee. You can do it with any coffee you'd like.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 30, 2013 12:06:02 GMT -5 wambam said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:04:06 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Sounds like another fad to push a product.

*shrug* Like I said earlier, you don't have to buy their coffee. You can do it with any coffee you'd like.

But it's a paleo fad as well. There's really no other benefit other than putting fat in your coffee. As someone said, you put cream in your coffee it does the same thing. But cream isn't paleo, so you put coconut oil. Then coconut oil wasn't radical/selective enough, so grassfed butter was next. But butter is dairy so how does that fit into paleo (although clarified butter is apparently ok)... and round and round the fads go.

::shrug:: If its your thing, more power to you. Taking a look at the origins of a fad isn't going to hurt anyone.

[wambam]

Apr 30, 2013 12:13:07 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:06:02 GMT -5 wambam said:

*shrug* Like I said earlier, you don't have to buy their coffee. You can do it with any coffee you'd like.

But it's a paleo fad as well. There's really no other benefit other than putting fat in your coffee. As someone said, you put cream in your coffee it does the same thing. But cream isn't paleo, so you put coconut oil. Then coconut oil wasn't radical/selective enough, so grassfed butter was next. But butter is dairy so how does that fit into paleo (although clarified butter is apparently ok)... and round and round the fads go.

::shrug:: If its your thing, more power to you. Taking a look at the origins of a fad isn't going to hurt anyone.

Agreed.



I just think people slap the word "fad" on things they don't like/don't agree with in order to devalue them. You think there's not much benefit, but that doesn't mean other people haven't seen benefits from something. 

[wambam]

Also, just as a side comment...

There are a lot of paleo people who eat grassfed butter even though it's technically not paleo per-se. It's one of the quintessential "gray" areas.

[katinthehat]

I just remembered they actually but butter in hot tea in areas of Tibet and China and Mongolia.

edit.  that was an unfortunate yet funny typo.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 30, 2013 12:34:15 GMT -5 katinthehat said:

I just remembered they actually but butter in hot tea in areas of Tibet and China and Mongolia.

edit.  that was an unfortunate yet funny typo.

LOL @ the typo.

The difference is that they need the butter to sustain their lifestyle. The average American isn't living in the climates those people do, nor with the physical loads those people deal with every day. This is where I think diets/fads get tripped up. "But xyz do it culturally so why can't we?!"

Oh? You typically hunt/gather/farm in subzero temperatures daily?

I do know scientists that are living on the poles that had to start eating a butt-ton of butter just to keep on weight. It's the byproduct of the climate.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 30, 2013 12:38:33 GMT -5 mr+ms said:

And, because I am a rabid Defender of Butter, the inspiration for bulletproof coffee guy's recipe is not so new: butter tea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_tea

Hm, butter tea churns... they don't look very faddish to me.

Point: Since butter is the main ingredient, butter tea provides plenty of caloric energy and is particularly suited to high altitudes.

I didn't realize you all lived at the top of the Rocky Mountains. My bad.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 30, 2013 12:50:01 GMT -5 mr+ms said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:41:35 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Point: Since butter is the main ingredient, butter tea provides plenty of caloric energy and is particularly suited to high altitudes.

I didn't realize you all lived at the top of the Rocky Mountains. My bad.

I didn't realize living at a high altitude was a pre-requisite for including fat in one's diet 

Since I'm not overweight and I don't eat much in the way of low nutrient but calorie dense foods like pasta/rice/breads, there's plenty of room for a couple of tablespoons of daily butter (that's less than 200 cals). Besides coffee, it's the most excellent compliment to a heap of green veggies.

sigh... It's going back and commenting on what makes this a fad. Not everyone is going to follow what you're doing. The webpage this is from even says "Eat whatever you want!" within that 6 hour window. Which, again, to the average american, is high calorie, low nutrient food. ON TOP OF, the butter they put in their coffee because HEY it's good for you, right?

ETA: My bad it says "bulletproof food". High in fat, meat, and a bit of veggies. And if we really want to get into it, we could look at how, psychologically, such restrictive diets don't work in the long term.

Which is what makes it a fad.

This circular argument is circular.

[wambam]

Apr 30, 2013 12:55:20 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:50:01 GMT -5 mr+ms said:

I didn't realize living at a high altitude was a pre-requisite for including fat in one's diet 

Since I'm not overweight and I don't eat much in the way of low nutrient but calorie dense foods like pasta/rice/breads, there's plenty of room for a couple of tablespoons of daily butter (that's less than 200 cals). Besides coffee, it's the most excellent compliment to a heap of green veggies.

sigh... It's going back and commenting on what makes this a fad. Not everyone is going to follow what you're doing. The webpage this is from even says "Eat whatever you want!" within that 6 hour window. Which, again, to the average american, is high calorie, low nutrient food. ON TOP OF, the butter they put in their coffee because HEY it's good for you, right?

Which is what makes it a fad.

This circular argument is circular.

I don't think anyone said everyone is going to follow what I'm doing. I eat a high-fat, low-carb diet that includes grassfed butter. It works for me. I think it can work for other people, but I don't expect that everyone will.

[pixy0stix]

Apr 30, 2013 12:58:06 GMT -5 wambam said:

I don't think anyone said everyone is going to follow what I'm doing. I eat a high-fat, low-carb diet that includes grassfed butter. It works for me. I think it can work for other people, but I don't expect that everyone will.

Right, which again makes this diet a fad. It won't work for everyone. It won't work for a majority of people. A lot of people will try it and fail. For some people such restrictive eating times will kickstart an eating disorder (this was brought up in the last thread talking about fasting).

[wambam]

Apr 30, 2013 13:03:41 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:58:06 GMT -5 wambam said:

I don't think anyone said everyone is going to follow what I'm doing. I eat a high-fat, low-carb diet that includes grassfed butter. It works for me. I think it can work for other people, but I don't expect that everyone will.

Right, which again makes this diet a fad. It won't work for everyone. It won't work for a majority of people. A lot of people will try it and fail. For some people such restrictive eating times will kickstart an eating disorder (this was brought up in the last thread talking about fasting).

That's all well and good, but it will work for some. So I hesitate to discount it all together.

And I am opposed to fasting, for the record. 

[robin]

The coffee mixed with the butter with the fasting, with it being followed by the crossfitters creates BUZZWORDS and makes people flock to it like a fad.

[katinthehat]

Apr 30, 2013 12:40:09 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Apr 30, 2013 12:34:15 GMT -5 katinthehat said:

I just remembered they actually but butter in hot tea in areas of Tibet and China and Mongolia.

edit.  that was an unfortunate yet funny typo.

LOL @ the typo.

The difference is that they need the butter to sustain their lifestyle. The average American isn't living in the climates those people do, nor with the physical loads those people deal with every day. This is where I think diets/fads get tripped up. "But xyz do it culturally so why can't we?!"

Oh? You typically hunt/gather/farm in subzero temperatures daily?

I do know scientists that are living on the poles that had to start eating a butt-ton of butter just to keep on weight. It's the byproduct of the climate.

True story.  My husband had it when he was in China, close to, curses on my lack of Chinese geography.  Where it's close to Tibet.  He was up in the mountains and had been out all day hiking and was about frozen solid.  Which may be why he thought it was wonderful.  However, when I had it in a Tibetan restaurant in Indiana, not so much wonderful.